Richard Dawkin Talks to Bill Maher about the God Delusion
Richard Dawkin Talks to Bill Maher about the God Delusion [video]
Bill Maher interviewing Richard Dawkins about his bestselling book "The God Delusion", which deals with the issues surrounding the existence if God, Atheism and the problems caused by the delusion in God. picked by doggylives 8 months ago
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 1thirtee...
8 months ago
Good interview, I think the anti-Christian jokes could've been kept to a minimum, though.

Seriously people, don't edit my post. It used to say:

"I thought I would never agree with Richard Dawkins on anything, but I liked what he said about being a 6 out of 7, and not fully *knowing* anything. Just as you can't *know* there is a God, doesn't mean you can't *know* that there is not one"

EDIT: Though, I somewhat wonder why he put his scale on a 7 and not a 10...
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« 1thirteen3 : Good interview, I think the anti-Christian jokes could've been kept to a minimum, though.
Why? Just because you believe something means other people can't/shouldn't poke fun of it or make light of it?

How many God's do you believe in btw 1thirteen? Do you believe in the Judai/Christian God?

I'm seriously starting to believe in Thor recently. If it was good enough for the Vikings, eh? Plus I dig his groovy hammer.

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 1thirtee...
8 months ago
« doggylives : Why? Just because you believe something means other people can't/shouldn't poke fun of it or make light of it?
No, again, for me, it all comes down to the way you do it. You can poke fun at it, and that's fine, I don't mind jokes.

It's more that when you ridicule instead of poke fun. It's like they're saying that just because you believe in God, and the biblical story, you automatically give up any intelligence, when nothing is further from the truth.

How many God's do you believe in btw 1thirteen? Do you believe in the Judai/Christian God?
Yes, I believe in the Trinity.

I'm seriously starting to believe in Thor recently. If it was good enough for the Vikings, eh? Plus I dig his groovy hammer.

Haha, reminds me of a cartoon show i used to watch.
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« 1thirteen3 :

Haha, reminds me of a cartoon show i used to watch.
Please don't ridicule my God. You've just offended thousands of Vikings, way to go!

All jokes aside if you'd have laughed at Thor around a Viking they would have killed you. He's kinda hard to take seriously now though, huh?

Hmmmmm, I wonder if there's a lesson here somewhere?
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 1thirtee...
8 months ago
« doggylives : Please don't ridicule my God. You've just offended thousands of Vikings, way to go!

All jokes aside if you'd have laughed at Thor around a Viking they would have killed you. He's kinda hard to take seriously now though, huh?

Hmmmmm, I wonder if there's a lesson here somewhere?
Kill people if they don't believe in your god? lol

I think i'll go the more peaceful route :)
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« 1thirteen3 : Kill people if they don't believe in your god? lol
Yeh, because killing people in the name of religion for not believing in God would be unheard of! *cough*crusades*cough*

And you understand the point I was making but like a lot of people feel the need to distract from valid points by highlighting something frivolous and inconsequential.;) I believe it's called the "Ohhh, look over here" syndrome.

*edit*

*cough*Burning Heretics at the stake*cough*
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 Hypersap...
8 months ago
No one's beliefs are so sacred that they are prohibited from being ridiculed. If it is possible to effectively ridicule them, then there must be something wrong with them.

That being said, not cool editing other people's posts without a damn good reason, people! Someone non-belligerently voicing an opinion you don't agree with is not a good reason.
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« Hypersapien :

That being said, not cool editing other people's posts without a damn good reason, people! Someone non-belligerently voicing an opinion you don't agree with is not a good reason.
I don't know how accurate this is because I've never in all the time I've been on Plime seen anyones post edited for any other reason than Spamming.

Methinks 1thirteen3 maybe just messed his post up and thought someone deleted it. I seriously can't see anyone at the level to be able to deleting it.
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 Hypersap...
8 months ago
« doggylives : I don't know how accurate this is because I've never in all the time I've been on Plime seen anyones post edited for any other reason than Spamming.

Methinks 1thirteen3 maybe just messed his post up and thought someone deleted it. I seriously can't see anyone at the level to be able to deleting it.
He didn't say that someone deleted his post. He said someone edited it, deleting a few sentences from it.
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« Hypersapien : He didn't say that someone deleted his post. He said someone edited it, deleting a few sentences from it.
Yeh, I got that bit. I'll rephrase my comment...

I don't know how accurate this is because I've never in all the time I've been on Plime seen anyones post edited for any other reason than Spamming.

Methinks 1thirteen3 maybe just messed his post up and thought someone deleted part of it. I seriously can't see anyone at the level to be able to deleting part of it.
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 tundramo...
8 months ago
« 1thirteen3 : Good interview, I think the anti-Christian jokes could've been kept to a minimum, though.
Hmm, I thought the anti-Xtian jokes were kept to a minimum.

A talking snake? That is ridiculous. I don't think it would have been considered offensive if he picked a myth from another religion, though.

And yes, whomever edited your post is a moron. I didn't do it.
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 tundramo...
8 months ago
« Hypersapien : No one's beliefs are so sacred that they are prohibited from being ridiculed. If it is possible to effectively ridicule them, then there must be something wrong with them.
Without ridicule, science wouldn't have advanced at all.

The earth is round? You're an idiot: Prove it! And so we learn the Earth's circumference (sort of).

We live on thin rocky plates floating on a sea of liquid hot magma? You're an idiot: Prove it! And so we have a much better, though by no means thourough, understanding of plate tectonics.

Religions can't hold up to a bit of ridicule? Maybe it's because they're not real and viable?
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 Hypersap...
8 months ago
« doggylives : Yeh, I got that bit. I'll rephrase my comment...

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I seriously can't see anyone at the level to be able to deleting part of it.
Can you rephrase that bit? I'm not sure I understand it. I'm able to edit his post.
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 coldblad...
8 months ago
If all those jokes and been directed at Muslims you guys might be singing a different tune.

Christianity is the religion the whole world gets to make fun of. Ah well :)

As for the subject matter I don't think believing in God is any more harmful than Atheism. You can point at history and show tons of travesties done in the name of God but I would contend that they were actually done because someone in power manipulated people and religion was the best scape-goat at the time. Bad things are simply done by bad people.
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« Hypersapien : Can you rephrase that bit? I'm not sure I understand it. I'm able to edit his post.
Holy s**t, I'll try and explain again..

I cannot believe anyone who is at the level where they will be able to edit 1thirteen3's comment would actually edit out a part of it.

What I mean by their level is that someone who has a sufficiently higher level than 1thirteen3's and is therefore able to edit his comment, I cannot see them been asinine enough to edit it.

By mentioning the level I mean that someone who is at a level to edit his comment (like yourself) obviously is a regular Plimate and therefore unlikely to be participating in said asshatery.

Please address any further queries about my comment to Ifyoucannotunderstandasimplecommentstoptakingthedrugs@hotmail.com :)
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« coldbladed : If all those jokes and been directed at Muslims you guys might be singing a different tune.

Christianity is the religion the whole world gets to make fun of. Ah well :)

As for the subject matter I don't think believing in God is any more harmful than Atheism. You can point at history and show tons of travesties done in the name of God but I would contend that they were actually done because someone in power manipulated people and religion was the best scape-goat at the time. Bad things are simply done by bad people.
I don't have a problem with anyone believing what they want and voicing that as long as I have equal right to believe what I want and voice that too.

Christianity has had way too much respect, had it's own way and been tip-toed round for too long IMO. People have been persecuted and mocked for years for not believing in God or refusing to bow to organized religion so if someone wants to poke a bit of fun or criticize then so be it.

I DO have a problem with organized religion and I have a problem with the bible, the hate it generates towards certain walks of life being a major bug-bear with me.

If someone chooses to believe in a book written by animal-sacrificing primitives that would have us believe that all the animals in the world were within walking distance of Noah's ark then good on them but I reserve all rights to be able to criticize, disbelieve and disagree with it.

All above comments strictly IMHO.
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 1thirtee...
8 months ago
« doggylives : Holy s**t, I'll try and explain again..

I cannot believe anyone who is at the level where they will be able to edit 1thirteen3's comment would actually edit out a part of it.

What I mean by their level is that someone who has a sufficiently higher level than 1thirteen3's and is therefore able to edit his comment, I cannot see them been asinine enough to edit it.

By mentioning the level I mean that someone who is at a level to edit his comment (like yourself) obviously is a regular Plimate and therefore unlikely to be participating in said asshatery.

Please address any further queries about my comment to Ifyoucannotunderstandasimplecommentstoptakingthedrugs@hotmail.com :)
Well, it's not the first time my posts have been edited. It's actually the third. That's why I got so pissed about it. Sorry if I made it seem as though you were editing it.

P.s. Crusades was the Catholic Church, and I'm not Catholic :). Either way, though, I don't condone what they did.
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 coldblad...
8 months ago
« doggylives :

All above comments strictly IMHO.
Christianity has had its fair share of "I can't get no respect." I guess poking fun is better than throwing us to the lions like in the old times eh? :D There was a period where the Vatican ruled the modern world followed by when England and the Vatican ruled the modern world but that only seems like a lot because it was more recent. It was actually a pretty short period on the world history scale, I think.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to poke fun at Christianity, not at all, but I think its a bit hypocritical to tell Christians not to be bothered by it. As I said before if it was anyone else they'd be screaming bloody murder and a press release apologizing wouldn't be far behind. People lose jobs/lives for offending Islam.

As for organized religion I'm actually with you there. Hasn't been a church I've visited without "holier than thou" a-holes etc etc. But I don't judge my faith based on its followers, people in general are selfish idiots so it stands to reason any faith would have its fair share of bad apples.

As for Noah's ark, if Pangaea is real, as some plate tectonic scientists would have us believe...
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 doggyliv...
8 months ago
« coldbladed :

As for Noah's ark, if Pangaea is real, as some plate tectonic scientists would have us believe...
The only problem with this is that the bible dates the creation of man back to around 6,000 years ago, the Pangaea is thought to have existed some 250 million years ago.

If the bible is to be believed the land masses as we know them now were roughly in the same position making the collecting and journeying of every species of animal to Noah's ark highly improbable and bordering on totally impossible.

If you objectively read the bibles creation account and many other of it's stories any reasonable person will conclude that at best it's a collection of mythical stories handed down through generations and at worst a tool for controlling the masses.

Again, all IMHO.
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 coldblad...
8 months ago
6,000 years ago according to biblical historians who don't have a lot of actual evidence on their side. I don't believe in the young earth theory myself. But humans being around 250million years ago might be a bit silly as well. Then again I'm still skeptical of the accuracy of carbon dating. I guess I share skepticism for both sides.
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