I <3 Plime.

I <3 recognizing usernames.

I </3 huge, impersonal sites.

(I forget which post made me want to say that, but I'm sure it relates somehow. Think abstractly and I'm sure it can fit in this thread)


ETA: Wow. I can't believe I actually typed that however long ago that was. I'm embarassed for my Plime infancy :p

Edit again, at level 21: Hehe, I re-found this post.. how cute!

Two new users that don't comment, don't post any links to any other sites than "Dakota Voice", both with names ending with "975". Linking style is not bothering with pictures, copypasting a paragraph from the article as description.

I see that as spam.

I agree. Anything I see here without a picture pretty much goes instantly into my brain's "ignore it" pile.

I have been one of the few people with no beef about people posting to their own sites.

Still I have to agree with you when someone posts nothing but their own sites. That gets ridiculous.

I have no problem with people posting self-links occasionally provided the links are interesting.

What I can't stand is self-links to a commercial web site. If they want to advertise they should pay Jaxom

*** Another self-post that I can't stand is people who leave links to their sites within the description of articles. The article may not link to their site, the article may be fine. However adding self-links (which have no bearing on the article) to descriptions and even comments in the forum or as replies to others' posts is irritating. I don't vote them down, I just edit it to remove the self-linking

It is possible that someone might forget to enter a picture.
It is possible that they thought they linked a picture, but it didn't work.
It is possible that they can't link a picture due to their computer not being able to work with Plime's cropper.

If you see a story without a picture make use of the "edit" feature and correct it.

The ability to edit is one of the things that sets Plime apart.

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I think we're there now. He keeps doing it and he doesn't get it. He even keeps calling me a commie. I told him that he is just spamming and that we don't want spam here and he thinks that I down-voted him because I don't agree with his blog (which I actually kinda agreed with). And then he blamed me for ALL the down-votes he got on that post, like I had something to do with that.

My advice: Don't try reasoning with him. He just twists it around and doesn't get it.

Wait, I thought I was the only one with an opinion. You just told me that 20 minutes ago! I bet you tell everyone they're the only one who has an opinion, don't you? And I bet my eyes AREN'T the most beautiful in the world either, huh?

(Playing ;)

..But he spends hours of his time drawing those cartoons.

Reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite: "I spent four hours shading your upper lip."

Whew, this thread sure has taken a beating.
I just have one comment: The way I was taught, you don't toot your own horn. If someone else wants to brag on you or what you've done, that's their business, not yours.
That's why you aren't going to get links to my blog/website/etc from me, whether they're interesting or not. That shouldn't be a rule; it's really more of a personal character thing.

woot i should post in this thread people's posts are getting karma by the hundereds! haha

seriously though thats not why im posting.

now i didnt read all of the posts. in fact i just read the 1st post and i think that i dont not agree with what he is doing but i can sorta see where he is coming from. It seems to me that said person felt like what he was doing was provoking positive discussion on this website, He wasnt doing specifically to annoy people. (althought thats what happened)So he wasnt being a total idiot.

It seemed that he worked hard on somthing and wanted to show it off to people. Its human to want to do that and im sure most of you have had somthing you've all wanted to show off at some point in your life. I found plime from being on Doodlebug, and i know that doodlebug wouldnt be nearly as addicting if you couldnt show off your art work when you are done.

but regardless of all that above^ if the majority of the community dosnt like it. said user should take the hint and stop.


so long story short. he wasnt posting his website on plime to be a jerk or any thing and his intentions were good but after he was told that here it is considered spamming said user should have stopped.

i myself dont mind if a person posts their own work on plime if its good and worth my time viewing i dont care where it came from. it all depends on the context.

now that being said it seems that the problem DEP and other users have had with "said user" is that "said user" is only posting an editorial (which to my understanding is opinion based) on a website that is mainly for factual posts that memebers can express opinions and therefore is considered spam (basically what DEP said)

so finally, all in all, the user had good intentions, community said it was spam he should have stopped...i dont mind if people post things from their own website as long as the content is good. In the case DEP has brought up to us, the content was really not what plimers were looking for so it was considered spam.

thats really all i have to say right now sorry if that is hard to follow

edit-after reading a few posts i realized that "siad username" has been a jerk.

Dork, part of the problem with people posting their own sites is when they do that exclusively.

If someone becomes a member, starts posting assorted links, makes comments etc and shows him/herself to be a part of the family, than they will have far far far fewer complaints about "spamming"

No, no... That's just what "said user" wants you to think. The problem is that this user posts nothing except links to their personal website. Content has nothing to do with it. If I see an article that is offensive, or not something I agree with or care about, I just ignore it. The problem is that this user is only interested in linking to their own site, and has mentioned that they do this on several websites, which further implies that there is no reason but personal gain (that being hits to their site).

But this is a dead horse. So I'll stop there. When I see this user post, and they post to their own site, I will give the appropriate negative vote.


I feel the same way.

Are we voting for content and substance or for the users?
If the link is worth it why not give it a decent chance to be known by others?
I really don't get you.

That's because we like playing mind games. You'll never get us - we still don't. Plime is cool that way.

Good argument.
It's really clear now.

We don't appreciate linking to your own website in the news section because otherwise we'd be drowning in posts from people who only join Plime for the clicks. That rule applies to everyone.
And even if there's no financial interest behind that site (like someone's blog), linking it is still regarded as spam blogging (splogging) for a simple reason: Every blogger regards his/her own work as newsworthy (otherwise they wouldn't be blogging it, would they?). In contrast to that, it is a well-known fact that about 96 of 100 blogs are totally lame, boring or annoying (just about the same ratio like everywhere on the internet). By not allowing to link to your own content, we manage to keep the quality of our submissions relatively high, because if someone other than the creator thinks a site is worth a Plime post, chances are that others will agree. The owner of, let's say, a blog, would of course regard his own work plimeworthy. Experience shows, though, that people are either gullible, loudmouthed or overestimating their capabilities when it comes to their own web content.

If you want to share your site, do so in the appropriate forum thread. Everyone who's interested can look it up there, and the others won't be bothered.

We're just trying to keep Plime's news section free of cheap showmanship and online marketing.

As someone who's posted links to my own blog twice (I thought there was one more, but can't find it), I feel qualified to argue the blanket nature of this. I've posted TONS of stuff to my own blog that I'd never submit links for. It (hopefully) interests my friends, but wouldn't interest folks at Plime. One of the things I did post did moderately well, the other one did pretty well. So... although my blog posts weren't the most popular things ever on Plime, I was choosy enough that the few things I did post were received OK.

To me, the rule is that you should be extremely choosy when posting things from your own blog, and mention somewhere that you are posting from your blog so people know that going in. Really ask yourself "is this something that Plime would be interested in, or is it just something my personal friends would like?" If there's any doubt in your mind, don't submit it.

If your post is a link to content from anyone else, don't post it. If you feel that the thing you commented on is significant enough to post in and of itself, submit a link to THAT, and then maybe post a link to your blog post commenting on it in a comment, or even cut and paste your commentary if it's short.


On a side note, I hadn't thought of this thread in a while, and when I brought up this page, I saw a post I wanted to upvote... until I noticed that I wrote it. So the good news is that I agree with myself. :P

OK, maybe I put it a little harshly.

Apologies.

Let me maybe just add the following:

It is a well-known fact that about 96 of 100 blogs are totally lame, boring and annoying - or at least of little interest to anyone but a relatively limited number of people. If a blog entry refers to content of "public interest", one could as well link to the original source(s).

This gave me a really good laugh. Thanks!