Work smarter, not harder.
The world isn't some loving, happy place.
People are going to manipulate and deceive others to get what they want, it's just how it goes.
Whoever gets to the top, obviously earned it, no matter what they did or didn't do.

And the whole issue with the money, why can't they just save it up and leave it for the future generations of their family? What's wrong with that? Nothing at all. People should be able to do what they want with their own money that they have earned.

Yes...but there is a finite amount of resources in this world. Why is one person afforded the benefits of education, and good nutrition entitled to more than their fair share of them and someone who did NOT receive those benefits left in want. Why SHOULD anyone be allowed to leave stores of wealth to their offspring, and what kind of offspring does this create?? Vapid, narcissistic, people like Paris Hilton. I'm not against people living well, just against them living well while even ONE person goes hungry. I hate entitled people on both sides, both those who have money and feel like they deserve more than someone else, and those who do nothing and expect the government to support them. There are PLENTY of people in this country and around the world that do an honest days work but can not enjoy even the necessities of life let alone the luxuries. I used to work for people who burned more money in their boat in a WEEKEND than the people who cleaned the boat made in a year. There is something wrong with that.

I used to be much worse...there was a time that I think the only thing that kept me from violent action against S classes, and 7 series was a vague belief in hell, and that hopefully the people who drove them would go there.

No, no, no, no, no, NO!!!!

It is not a zero-sum situation. There's no finite "pie" of wealth and resources.

This is marxist talk and f**k NO I will not have that s**t happen in this country.

Rich guy makes 30mil a year but is capped at 2mil, or more realistically 1.5mil, under your system. Suddenly the source of his income (an invention perhaps) is no longer relevant to the market because the next best thing got invented by someone else, reducing his income to zero.

Because he was capped he didn't have the opportunity to invest enough in the 3 years he WAS making money to secure his future for his remaining 40 years.

Wow that sucks...

Hell maybe someone who died of malnutrition may have grown up and worked FOR him and developed a great idea FOR him but he would never know, because that person died for his greed.


Most middle class people would be elated to have a retirement account containing 2,000,000 dollars.... you can live off the interest of a sum of money like that.

Communism doesn't work, and at no point is it a good idea. There is nothing wrong with taxing the rich more than the working poor, but a line has to be drawn, and that line involves the redistribution of wealth.

Progressive taxation is a good thing, but it has to cap out somewhere. You can have a country where you can get equally good education and health care no matter how much money you make, and no one has to be homeless or go hungry, and still leave rich people enough money to buy different colour Bugatti for each weekday.

You can have majority of your workforce unionized, and still be a highly competitive. Socialism isn't a bogeyman.

Besides scandal? And if so, is it worthy of the presidency? She does not have the qualifications to be an EFFECTIVE vice president and if Mcsame would drop dead we all would be screwed.

Originally posted as a joke, but I think it fits here:

Please tell me how Mr. Obama, running for the number 1 spot, has better credentials than Palin and would be more effective.

Obama speaks about change. Palin makes it happen.

It has been suggested by one of the Forum leaders that, instead of starting a new thread, I just state the opinion of someone who may or may not be considered worthy of writing or of having an opinion in general, and who may or may not write with substance... so here goes:

SARAH PALIN'S CAREER ENDS IN TRAGEDY .. by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

The frenzied reaction of the middle class all over the country toward Sarah Palin has no real precedent that I can remember. Indeed, the reaction especially among women is completely understandable. She provides a much welcome cultural break from the chip-on-the-shoulder, grudge-against-the-world model of public women that have been held up to us for years, embodied in the belligerent and insufferable person of Hillary Clinton.

Sarah, on the other hand, is both beautiful and professionally accomplished, a wife and mother and a natural politician, both religious and secular, both feminine and fears no tasks such as hunting that are usually associated with men. She offers a different model of a woman who has excelled not through intimidation and aggressive demands for reparation, but through her own efforts, charms, and intelligence.

What's more, her political outlook has much to recommend it, from what we can gather so far. There is a libertarian impulse here. She has rejected the perks of public life in favor of common sense. She is friendly to business interests but unfriendly to special privileges. She has praised Ron Paul and rejected the party mentality of GOP regulars.
It strikes many people as a brilliant choice on McCain's part, and I would agree. Social conservatives have forgiven all of McCain's deviations. Many people who just last week didn't give a fig about whether he wins or loses have come around completely. She will, of course, be a huge focus of the campaign.

The claim against her that she lacks "experience" is one of the most bogus things out there. For starters, the history of VPs shows a long history of people with very little of what is called "experience" today. And contrary to what media pundits say, what is far more important than experience are the political values you hold.

The demand for experience seems to imply that somehow we are seeking social and global managers for public office, and that is manifestly what we do not want. In a truly liberal society, the job of a White House executive could be held by anyone or no one.

Now, the sad part begins. The first job of anyone who works for the government – and that is the job of the vice president – is to echo the line of the government. People find that to be reasonable. It really comes down to a matter of job loyalty. If you are working for Burger King, you have an obligation not to criticize their hamburgers publicly.

But in government, this job requirement takes on a different cast. When a decent person accepts a job such as vice president, our first instinct is to celebrate that good people are in a position of power and influence. This is what the McCain campaign is counting on. But this is an illusion. The influence runs completely the other way. Good people become part of the party machine and surrender all their principles in order to survive.

We are speaking here of the leviathan state that lives on a lie. To be part of that, you too must become part of the lie. It is perhaps possible to be the governor of a small state such as Alaska and not be part of the machine. It is not possible to be vice president of the United States and not enter into the deeply immoral arena that values the burying of all principle, and saying and doing whatever is necessary to bolster power.

Part of the purpose of campaigns is to socialize the candidates in this mold. Sarah will be slapped around if and when she openly disagrees with McCain's politics. When they win the election, she will immediately be required to take on the role of an apologist for all that the administration does.

In some ways, this is the continuing of a terrible trend of the Bush years. Many good young people from conservative backgrounds, with excellent educations and decent political values, went to work for Bush under the impression that they could make a difference. There was change as a result, but it was not government that changed, but the young people who went to work for it.

There are even cases of former libertarians who have held high government positions and sacrificed all their values in order to hold their jobs. They claim that they haven't abandoned libertarianism but rather seek to apply it in the "real world." But the real world of government is the opposite of libertarianism. It is stealing, lying, killing, butchering, badgering, looting, coercing, and sucking the life out of society itself. That is the essence of modern statecraft.

You either have to come to terms with that or leave. If you stay, you become part of the very problem that you fought to oppose. We saw this not only during the egregious Bush administration but also in the 1980s with Reagan. Many people become educated with sound political values and find themselves attracted to Washington politics. They quickly feel embarrassed about their naïveté and seek to fix themselves up, adopting the approved cynicism that eats away at their soul. They become changed over time, morphing into the very opposite of what they started out, and of what they started out believing.

There are names I could mention here in our time, former libertarians now holding high political appointments in the bowels of the federal bureaucracy. They know who they are. They can pretend superiority that they are "getting their hands dirty" while the rest of us are merely typing away at our keyboards. But in fact, they have become responsible for great evil, the leading one of which is to contribute to the great lie that government is doing good for us.

This, sadly, is the future of Sarah Palin, who may have been doing some good in Alaska. It is even more of a tragedy when people leave the private sector where they are serving the public in productive ways, only to become part of the machinery of stealing, lying, and killing.

There is something about Sarah I really like, especially that she seems to have had some sympathy for an Alaskan secession movement, which, contrary to media hysteria, is a perfectly reasonable and liberal position to take. But you can be sure that if she plans to be a successful vice president under a McCain administration, all of this will be swept under the carpet and her primary accomplishment in life will have been to dupe many people into supporting an administration that promises to be the worst thing that has happened to this country since Bush was sworn in.

I bet she will be replaced as the VP Nom.

Lets bring back Huckabee. I liked that man's name.

I see some giant GOP monster cartoon, eating Sarah Palin. NOM NOM NOM!

I need to wake up, or sleep more.

Is that really her in these pics???

My guess is...number 3 is a chop...

2 could or could not be her...

and 1 looks real.

The B&W is an old picture of Julia Louis-Dreyfus

yeah...now it is obvious

I would make a joke about you knowing that but it's too early for my brain.. so yea.. Facebook is falling in love with bristol.. they're already making her sound like the next brittney spears.. that sux, I hope my mom never runs for a major political party

I was thinking about this...and although i take anything doggylives says as gospel :-) lol...i wanted to do some additional research on my own.

But yea I came to realize that the population that she is governing over is about the population of the city of Detroit, if not less. And I was hearing alot about her being mayor for 8 years (1996-2002) and I was like wow, thats great...and then i found out that she was mayor over 5,000-7,000 people...thats like 2 high schools :-/ It kind of put in perspective for me this whole 'experience' thing and 'approval rating' thing.

She seems like a cool person (loves politics, loves her job, great mother to 5kids, hunts, dresses hott, sense of humor, down to earth) but the thought of her potentially running the United States of America, is a little unnerving.

Then you must be scared sh*tless of Obama and his completely nonexistent governing experience


edit; but She He seems like a cool person (loves politics, loves her His job, great mother Father to 5 2 kids, hunts, dresses hott, sense of humor, down to earth)