The results are pretty massive (and only effect voting from this point forward).

Before anyone objects, I just want to point out two things:

a) If you were a level 30 or 40 before, you still have the same amount of power per capita, even though your stats make you a teenager now. Everyone's level went down proportionately, so you're still as powerful as before, relative to everyone else.

b) People were jumping far greater than I ever intended.

Here's the formula, backwards. I'm not sure how to write this forwards. If anyone knows how to do reverse powering, please let me know.

Karma = 10 * user_level * user_level * user_level

or...

Karma = 10 * user_level ^ 3

Edit: User_level = (Karma/10)^(1/3) thanks Fanatic!

You may have some issues as your cookies might not be updated yet. When you vote the number might tell you that you're still scoring with your old user level. That's not the case in the database (the real score will be recorded - just what is on your screen will be incorrect). Visiting any form page will correct that for future voting.

As an aside.... I can easily restore things to how they were should you folks not like it, but I need a valid reason why (other than "i love having so much power"). People were jumping levels far too quickly under the old system and I never intended for it to be that way.

Here's the exact karma scale, which uses this formula

user level 1 karma 10
user level 2 karma 80
user level 3 karma 270
user level 4 karma 640
user level 5 karma 1250
user level 6 karma 2160
user level 7 karma 3430
user level 8 karma 5120
user level 9 karma 7290
user level 10 karma 10000
user level 11 karma 13310
user level 12 karma 17280
user level 13 karma 21970
user level 14 karma 27440
user level 15 karma 33750
user level 16 karma 40960
user level 17 karma 49130
user level 18 karma 58320
user level 19 karma 68590
user level 20 karma 80000
user level 21 karma 92610
user level 22 karma 106480
user level 23 karma 121670
user level 24 karma 138240
user level 25 karma 156250
user level 26 karma 175760
user level 27 karma 196830
user level 28 karma 219520
user level 29 karma 243890
user level 30 karma 270000
user level 31 karma 297910
user level 32 karma 327680
user level 33 karma 359370
user level 34 karma 393040
user level 35 karma 428750
user level 36 karma 466560
user level 37 karma 506530
user level 38 karma 548720
user level 39 karma 593190
user level 40 karma 640000
user level 41 karma 689210
user level 42 karma 740880
user level 43 karma 795070
user level 44 karma 851840
user level 45 karma 911250
user level 46 karma 973360
user level 47 karma 1038230
user level 48 karma 1105920
user level 49 karma 1176490
user level 50 karma 1250000
user level 51 karma 1326510
user level 52 karma 1406080
user level 53 karma 1488770
user level 54 karma 1574640
user level 55 karma 1663750
user level 56 karma 1756160
user level 57 karma 1851930
user level 58 karma 1951120
user level 59 karma 2053790
user level 60 karma 2160000
user level 61 karma 2269810
user level 62 karma 2383280
user level 63 karma 2500470
user level 64 karma 2621440
user level 65 karma 2746250
user level 66 karma 2874960
user level 67 karma 3007630
user level 68 karma 3144320
user level 69 karma 3285090
user level 70 karma 3430000
user level 71 karma 3579110
user level 72 karma 3732480
user level 73 karma 3890170
user level 74 karma 4052240
user level 75 karma 4218750
user level 76 karma 4389760
user level 77 karma 4565330
user level 78 karma 4745520
user level 79 karma 4930390
user level 80 karma 5120000
user level 81 karma 5314410
user level 82 karma 5513680
user level 83 karma 5717870
user level 84 karma 5927040
user level 85 karma 6141250
user level 86 karma 6360560
user level 87 karma 6585030
user level 88 karma 6814720
user level 89 karma 7049690
user level 90 karma 7290000
user level 91 karma 7535710
user level 92 karma 7786880
user level 93 karma 8043570
user level 94 karma 8305840
user level 95 karma 8573750
user level 96 karma 8847360
user level 97 karma 9126730
user level 98 karma 9411920
user level 99 karma 9702990
user level 100 karma 10000000

User_level = (Karma/10)^(1/3)

cube root of (karma divided by 10)

Here's the old scale, for comparison (note it only goes up to 50).


End Else If @karma < 100 begin
set @user_level = 1
End Else If @karma < 200 begin
set @user_level = 2
End Else If @karma < 300 begin
set @user_level = 3
End Else If @karma < 400 begin
set @user_level = 4
End Else If @karma < 500 begin
set @user_level = 5
End Else If @karma < 600 begin
set @user_level = 6
End Else If @karma < 700 begin
set @user_level = 7
End Else If @karma < 800 begin
set @user_level = 8
End Else If @karma < 900 begin
set @user_level = 9
End Else If @karma < 1000 begin
set @user_level = 10
End Else If @karma < 1250 begin
set @user_level = 11
End Else If @karma < 1500 begin
set @user_level = 12
End Else If @karma < 1750 begin
set @user_level = 13
End Else If @karma < 2000 begin
set @user_level = 14
End Else If @karma < 2250 begin
set @user_level = 15
End Else If @karma < 2500 begin
set @user_level = 16
End Else If @karma < 2750 begin
set @user_level = 17
End Else If @karma < 3000 begin
set @user_level = 18
End Else If @karma < 3250 begin
set @user_level = 19
End Else If @karma < 3500 begin
set @user_level = 20
End Else If @karma < 3750 begin
set @user_level = 21
End Else If @karma < 4750 begin
set @user_level = 22
End Else If @karma < 5750 begin
set @user_level = 23
End Else If @karma < 6750 begin
set @user_level = 24
End Else If @karma < 7750 begin
set @user_level = 25
End Else If @karma < 8750 begin
set @user_level = 26
End Else If @karma < 9750 begin
set @user_level = 27
End Else If @karma < 10750 begin
set @user_level = 28
End Else If @karma < 11750 begin
set @user_level = 29
End Else If @karma < 12750 begin
set @user_level = 30
End Else If @karma < 13750 begin
set @user_level = 31
End Else If @karma < 15750 begin
set @user_level = 32
End Else If @karma < 17750 begin
set @user_level = 33
End Else If @karma < 19750 begin
set @user_level = 34
End Else If @karma < 21750 begin
set @user_level = 35
End Else If @karma < 23750 begin
set @user_level = 36
End Else If @karma < 25750 begin
set @user_level = 37
End Else If @karma < 27750 begin
set @user_level = 38
End Else If @karma < 29750 begin
set @user_level = 39
End Else If @karma < 31750 begin
set @user_level = 40
End Else If @karma < 33750 begin
set @user_level = 41
End Else If @karma < 37750 begin
set @user_level = 42
End Else If @karma < 41750 begin
set @user_level = 43
End Else If @karma < 45750 begin
set @user_level = 44
End Else If @karma < 49750 begin
set @user_level = 45
End Else If @karma < 53750 begin
set @user_level = 46
End Else If @karma < 57750 begin
set @user_level = 47
End Else If @karma < 61750 begin
set @user_level = 48
End Else If @karma < 65750 begin
set @user_level = 49
End Else If @karma < 69750 begin
set @user_level = 50

I think you just need to use a negative number for "reverse powering", so it would be

user-level = 10 * Karma ^ -3

I could be wrong though. I often am. The more I look at it, the less right it seems. *shrug*

And the new level was quite the shocker at first, but I'm cool with it.

It's all good, Jax. You told us quite some time ago that this would be readjusted, so we all knew it was coming.

You were close :-)

See comment # 3 above.

10^-3 = .001
10^(1/3) = 2.1544

Hmm, I can't get that to work. Using your formala 270 equals 27... when it should ideally equal 3.

3 * 3 * 3 * 10 = 270

The above was an example of exponents. The formula for level is in comment 3 above; buried between your tables :-)

The correct form in Excel or whatever is (270/10)^(1/3)

270/10 =27; 27^(1/3)= 3

Ah, I guess it's just a SQL thing. Your formula does work in Excel. I'll have to find the SQL equivalent. I'll amend my first post now though. Thanks!

I am sooo not simplifying this for anyone. Have you adjusted the (proportion i guess is the best word) for links to get under popular? I dont really mind the change.

I'm with poop on this, it's all good. I just like to play. Besides, all that math makes my brain hurt.

I feel like a kid again! ;) I think it's fine.

Ok fantatic, you rock. I got this working in SQL now, and as a result of your formula, I can now show people how far away they are from their next level. I'll add a graph to their stats page to show them.

I guess this means I can no longer buy beer at the Plime Bar.... :(

Is it still going backwards? I just went from 17 to 16.

I had a typo in the new formula that rounded up when you were between levels. It's now accurate using Fantatic's correction.

Here are the top 100 users with their actual user levels (including remainders):

16.2310232123816 Bornbad
13.0452075002045 2manyusernames
13.0275549651089 jaxomlotus
12.8604400714647 TomPhoolry
12.2360663452732 icepigs
11.5053535250627 Boomshank
11.2425465032319 Wingnut
10.7231165290838 donteatpoop
9.41286904933671 TheBlueFrog
9.39779637495297 tlovesd
9.22479135746758 Hoosker
9.05724824532426 readingitall
9.01643088996776 Teaya21
8.80227214056056 sfeldner
8.71975955345188 zadscmc
8.64012259771169 Alton
8.44836050028425 tundramonkey
8.21796576487709 BrownTrout
7.61166261102024 Phildo
7.58278652687578 Milkshake
7.5769848516751 beckinacea
7.54198673217434 yoornotme
7.53612204339236 Rogue
7.3557623684011 runninutes
7.28736163112184 T3ND3R
7.26848237132856 cb__
7.15309009504067 Bandit
7 drStrangelove
6.97953204690889 Mershaullk
6.97268264894006 suebe
6.91739641660922 musicgirldani
6.86121203584082 AOEU
6.85412400183262 harmsc12
6.81846194135301 makri
6.42315828856237 epia
6.36609676041689 misterc
6.20582179489575 BrightonCub
6.14463365137169 shredtone
6.12692567522842 rubes68
6.00924500691737 Fanatic
5.9720926198264 iduffee
5.87713065921074 DoggySpew
5.84803547642573 kissmenow
5.77899656515213 daftgretel
5.77899656515213 rachelsometimes
5.7589652204924 LatueOfStiberty
5.67741137084543 digitalgimpling
5.65665282582291 hypnotode
5.60407866131077 Xxxxxpp
5.60407866131077 dollyllama
5.55049910291155 TheCritters
5.45136177849642 iZ
5.37168535494483 dorkfire
5.31329284591305 D&#178;
5.0787530781327 blurmore
5.05277434720856 videoguy
4.98663095223865 ieldanth
4.9596756638423 unzercharlie
4.93242414866094 moebel
4.84880758583988 TheStep
4.84880758583988 braveheart
4.80589553370533 gammerus
4.7474593985234 fatfreddyfreak
4.73262349116337 Kitsune86
4.73262349116337 ImNotBlue
4.71769398031653 Nick
4.64158883361278 FriedBrains
4.64158883361278 sean
4.62606500918274 KingKoopa
4.37951913988789 escaflowne
4.27265868169792 murphyz
4.25432086511501 iceburg
4.19833645380841 Johnnytitan
4.17933919638123 hombrefeo
4.08165510191735 henkspaan
4.06154810044568 AutumnLotus
3.91486764116886 WheresMySanity
3.89299641587326 psycmoe
3.89299641587326 hazelly
3.82586236554478 bcgrote
3.82586236554478 trushafty38
3.80295246076139 Ziaphra
3.75628575422107 BillyD1
3.65930571002297 teresag
3.65930571002297 magus99919
3.60882608013869 jameseum
3.53034833532606 julea
3.47602664488645 deaddonkeysrule
3.47602664488645 baraneyfife
3.47602664488645 secretsather
3.44821724038273 RedSodaPop
3.41995189335339 Maiden
3.41995189335339 hawaiiguy182
3.39121144301417 Jowe
3.39121144301417 missy1979
3.36197540679896 suckersklub
3.27106631018859 KillerBean
3.23961180127748 Sholom22
3.23961180127748 oren
3.20753432999583 wildminou

Well, I think the legal age has been dropped to 9 here, so come have some.

One more question then I have to work. At what point does a submission go from front page to popular. Thanx.

It's based off the popularity of the links around it. If a lot of recent links are not popular at all and yours is semi-popular, it will make the popular tab. In other words it will work dynamically with the current set up (though it may take all day for the system to sync itself with the lower amount of karma that is now coming in and for a bunch of entries to suddenly become popular.

I like it. Relative is relative.

edit: Wow. the top three comments above me have negative votes. What's wrong with them that someone would vote them down?