Should rehash news blogs that don't link their news source be allowed on Plime


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Posted: 3 years ago by Bornbad:
« drStrangelove :  As far as people reaching a high enough level.. There are a number of folks here who are just wantonly copying stories from other sites.. they are getting HUGE karma points for some very lazy work... soon it may be enough duplication as to render this site useless. I know this is a tangential issue.... but I feel pretty strongly about it being wrong.

..that, and those crappy indy-music blog links.
I agree to an extent. If a person just runs down the CNN, yahoo, AP 'weird news' page and submits everything, they should be chastised. Some things from those pages are good, just not all.
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Posted: 3 years ago by jaxomlotus:
« bonsai1776 :RTCA, and friedbrains are the most outspoken of them. In my opinion that is definitely trolling.
Hmm, I wouldn't group RTCA in the same category as Friedbrains... not even close. Yes, both are trying to get exposure for their blogs, but one is peddling hate speech (literally unnaceptable trolling) and the other is trying to promote their blog (which we still haven't set any firm ground rules on).

One thing I respect about both people is that they are taking part in the discussion. For Plime to really take off we need to hear all sides to every debate. Whether we agree with their answers in the end is not as important as the fact we gave them a chance to answer at all.
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Posted: 3 years ago by donteatpoop:
I have posted my blog on here three times.

But each time, I opened a forum thread, and my blog post was really just the introduction of a thread. The forums are there for opinion related content, or amusing antecdotes. What I did not do, however, is link my very entertaining and highly amusing blog that you all should visit and comment on frequently. So there was no traffic increase based on my post.

We have a "post your blog" thread buried somewhere deep in the forums. I believe I am the only one who posted in it. Perahaps if a new one was started, and maybe stickied under the FA-Q, this would be a good place for bloggers to post stuff in, while "advertising" their blog through interesting comments, discussions, and forum interaction.
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Posted: 3 years ago by yoornotme:
« Bornbad : Punching up your blog on Plime should be cause for point status loss. I have a stupid blog I'm embarresed of (except for my son's stories).
Agreed.

And I have a blog too. I've had it for over three years. Good luck reading it though-- it's password protected! Ha!
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Posted: 3 years ago by RTCA:
Yes, I'm an outspoken blogger. I tend to submit original things, except maybe humor.

Until very recently, I didn't know just how anti-blog (I can't think of a better word) most of you are. Some bloggers probably rely on advertising to support their sites. I do not. In fact, I'm retired and don't need the money at all. I blog because if I didn't I would probably die of sheer boredom.

Well, as of a few minutes ago, I decided to pull the plug. I actually was doing other things on Plime besides submitting things. I won't be doing any of it anymore. I have better things to do with my time than plead the case for bloggers and I refuse to be a poster child.
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Posted: 3 years ago by yoornotme:
« RTCA : Yes, I'm an outspoken blogger. I tend to submit original things, except maybe humor.

Until very recently, I didn't know just how anti-blog (I can't think of a better word) most of you are. Some bloggers probably rely on advertising to support their sites. I do not. In fact, I'm retired and don't need the money at all. I blog because if I didn't I would probably die of sheer boredom.

Well, as of a few minutes ago, I decided to pull the plug. I actually was doing other things on Plime besides submitting things. I won't be doing any of it anymore. I have better things to do with my time than plead the case for bloggers and I refuse to be a poster child.
Aw, but I actually like you!

Can't say the same about FriedBrains though. I wish he'd go and you'd stay.

I have some friends in RL who are always self-promoting (darn DJ's). That's annoying. I'd hang out with them more if they'd talk about things that they *didn't* create. I think that's probably true for most people: we get sick of self-promoters. (And usually, it seems to only be one way. The people promoting themselves never want to hear about the people they're talking to. Just like door-to-door religious salesmen).
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Posted: 3 years ago by tundramonkey:
I agree with yoornotme on this one!

There are a few other Plimers who would ONLY submit their very biased/borderline offensive blogs, and that began to frustrate several members of the Plime population.

IMO, I think a blog category (as opposed to a buried blog thread) might be a solution to this, as Plimers who do have interesting blogs can have the opportunity to post [the uninteresting/spammers could be just voted down].
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Posted: 3 years ago by RTCA:
Well, if anyone figures out how to make a blog category (with subcategories) that doesn't show up on the front page, let me know. My account is staying open, I'm just not hanging out here to wait for the change (if it comes).
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Posted: 3 years ago by Alton:
« RTCA :  My account is staying open, I'm just not hanging out here to wait for the change (if it comes).
Why? Is the possibility to submit your blog here the only reason you visit Plime? I don't believe it is, and nobody is asking you to be a poster child for bloggers. There was a backlash yesterday over the increasing stream of bloggers submitting their blogs/websites. As Jax said, you got caught in the middle of it. Plime is still new and developing growing pains. You can either take your ball and go home, or you can help develop a solution to the problem. Right now I'd say 5-10% of the articles submitted are from bloggers to their own site. One or two have been a problem and upset several members. Our fear is that number will increase as more people discover Plime, and you have to admit alot of blogs are not worth clicking on.

You know, I wouldn't mind if there was a blog category that all bloggers listed their links on, I wouldn't even have a problem with them running across the front page, as long as they were being honest about what they were linking to. If I knew they were blogs, I'd probably ignore the majority of them and read only the best that I knew from previous submissions and/or member comments. Perhaps there is an audience here for bloggers, but it would help if they were honest to what they were doing instead of deceiving people into thinking it was really a news story they were submitting.

And you may very well be a very interesting, intelligent blogger, but you can't tell me that's the case with the majority. For every exceptional blogger, there are hundreds of boring, self important people that believe what they have to say is interesting. As it stands now, we can't distinguish between the two, and we are tired of clicking on 95% of the latter to find the former. And it's getting worse. More and more bloggers are realizing they don't have to pay, wait, or do anything except link to their blog, and try to make the description interesting. They can even lie just to get traffic to their site in the hopes a small percentage of people will buy what in reality they are just trying to sell.

I would also suggest reinstating putting the website in the submission field. That way members could determine from it the source of the article.
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Posted: 3 years ago by RTCA:
Amazing things, these notifications I receive by email that someone replied. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

In answer to your question, I like what's here and that's why I come here. You know, I didn't even know about Plime until someone linked one of my blog posts and I was going through my logs and saw Plime as a referrer. (Yeah, blame that guy!)

Plime is so much better than Digg and the others, it's ridiculous. The interface (with pictures) alone is worth the trip.

As far as other bloggers being honest, there's some really bad ones out there. I can't say I advocate blocking websites, but I don't see any other way to keep the bad ones at bay. Perhaps a blocking mechanism for all blogs as a start with only approved blogs being unblocked. Approval would have to start with a recommendation from someone with a lot of points. What do you think?
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Posted: 3 years ago by yoornotme:
What if there was a seperate section for blogs, like there's the all news section, the popular section, and the deleted section and then when a certain blog post gets voted up enough it goes in with all the other posts? Happy compromise for bloggers and non-blogers alike?
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Posted: 3 years ago by TheBlueFrog:
« RTCA : In answer to your question, I like what's here and that's why I come here. You know, I didn't even know about Plime until someone linked one of my blog posts and I was going through my logs and saw Plime as a referrer. (Yeah, blame that guy!)
Sorry if I was a little knee-jerk yesterday. I kind of turned it into us vs. them, with you lumped in with the shameless self promoters, and content rehashers. I tend to play the devils advocate in debates and take a side and stay on side.

I really hope that you can understand where myself and others are coming from, in saying that some bloggers, have the intention of not contributing in a useful way.

I'm also sorry that you have been caught up in this, because some of your other posts from your blog are interesting (besides the one I said I disagree with yesterday =p). Also that the reason that there is even a discussion in the first place is because of bloggers like yourself, ones that actually generate content, not just rehashes. The discussion is where to draw the line. How do we determine who's blog to allow and who's do disallow? Who decides? How quickly does the decision get made?
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Posted: 3 years ago by donteatpoop:
« RTCA : Amazing things, these notifications I receive by email that someone replied. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

In answer to your question, I like what's here and that's why I come here. You know, I didn't even know about Plime until someone linked one of my blog posts and I was going through my logs and saw Plime as a referrer. (Yeah, blame that guy!)

Plime is so much better than Digg and the others, it's ridiculous. The interface (with pictures) alone is worth the trip.

As far as other bloggers being honest, there's some really bad ones out there. I can't say I advocate blocking websites, but I don't see any other way to keep the bad ones at bay. Perhaps a blocking mechanism for all blogs as a start with only approved blogs being unblocked. Approval would have to start with a recommendation from someone with a lot of points. What do you think?
But as far as the "To post a blog or not to post a blog" issue, as long as that isn't the only thing your posting, I don't have a problem with it. And as long as it's not just a paragraph, or some news article that doesn't include sources, the I say post it. The issues in question are a) is it spam (which it isn't as long as you are contributing to the site in other ways as well) and b) is it credible (which it is as long as you provide sources).

For now if you want to post a blog post, copy/paste the blog into a forum post and put it there. That's what I do with mine, anyway. But then mine are trivial and stupid, and definately not related to the news.
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Posted: 3 years ago by RTCA:
I would have been back sooner to comment, but I had to go to the bank and take my mother-in-law to lunch (her birthday). It took me a couple of hours longer than I anticipated because I was busy secretly switching some gourmet coffee with Folgers.

Anyway, okay, I'll submit original content when it's worthy (and trust me, much of my stuff is not worthy of the trash can). So... don't look for any rehashes from me, because you won't get any. In fact, I have a few messages to send to some fellow bloggers today.
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Posted: 3 years ago by jaxomlotus:
I think creating a blog only version of plime where the purpose is for bloggers to freely submit their posts is a great idea. That's not to say we'll now disallow blog posts on Plime (I think the community will work out an acceptable standard that applies to all submitted content), but would mean that bloggers would have a place to submit their content that is specifically for bloggers trying to promote their own material.
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