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The LET IT OUT thread that ate New York Part IV
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 Marli
3 weeks ago
Thanks, Maven. That guy did end up quitting today. He said it was too busy for him to handle. Which kind of boggles my mind... In this economy, with GM and Chrysler bankrupt, he should hang on for dear life at a dealership that is "too busy"!

I told my husband if I wasn't going back to school they should hire me, because at least I'm reliable and we could have a little office romance. :)
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 nunkii
3 weeks ago
Is so not working Zoofari next year!
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 drogue
3 weeks ago
Dear Serta,

Thank you for making the high quality California-king SertaSleeper mattress upon which I've slept quite some time now. However, I do have one complaint. You see, last night, as I lay asleep I dreamt that Apple Care had come out for onsite service. This was in some fantastic apartment with 20-foot ceilings and all-new fixtures where I lived in dreamland, and for some reason, the purpose of the call was to test my system's performance against that of another recording artist.

That artist, turns out, was Pamela Adlon, the very attractive, and talented actress who played Louis C.K.'s wife in Lucky Louie, and who voices Bobby Hill in King of the Hill. In this dream she was also a musician. We began talking and I realized that not only was she an old friend of my sister, but that we were very mutually attracted, and that our future together was as guaranteed as such a thing can be. We were very funny together, and were destined to write and produce much quality programming for the screen.

However, when I awoke, I realized that I didn't have that fancy apartment, and also that I wasn't getting ready to marry the very talented and beautiful actress Pamela Adlon. To the extent of my knowledge, this discrepancy should be covered under the terms of the extended warranty package I purchased for the bed set. I look forward to your action on this, and trust that it will be swift, as I'm sure you're aware spring weddings are notoriously difficult to plan on such short notice.

-D
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 hoosker
2 weeks ago
« drogue : Dear Serta,

Thank you for making the high quality California-king SertaSleeper mattress upon which I've slept quite some time now. However, I do have one complaint. You see, last night, as I lay asleep I dreamt that Apple Care had come out for onsite service. This was in some fantastic apartment with 20-foot ceilings and all-new fixtures where I lived in dreamland, and for some reason, the purpose of the call was to test my system's performance against that of another recording artist.

That artist, turns out, was Pamela Adlon, the very attractive, and talented actress who played Louis C.K.'s wife in Lucky Louie, and who voices Bobby Hill in King of the Hill. In this dream she was also a musician. We began talking and I realized that not only was she an old friend of my sister, but that we were very mutually attracted, and that our future together was as guaranteed as such a thing can be. We were very funny together, and were destined to write and produce much quality programming for the screen.

However, when I awoke, I realized that I didn't have that fancy apartment, and also that I wasn't getting ready to marry the very talented and beautiful actress Pamela Adlon. To the extent of my knowledge, this discrepancy should be covered under the terms of the extended warranty package I purchased for the bed set. I look forward to your action on this, and trust that it will be swift, as I'm sure you're aware spring weddings are notoriously difficult to plan on such short notice.

-D
HaHaHa...a spring wedding.
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 chinook
2 weeks ago
I decided my closet was too full and that I need to get rid of some clothes. Everything I haven't worn in the last year is going, save one week's worth of office-type city clothes.

It feels good to get rid of baggage, but I'm sad to see almost all of my city clothes go into the "give-away" box. Instead of a closet with high heels and fashionable jackets, all that's left is wooly sweaters and toques and, for the most part, sensible footwear. A big part of me has changed in the past year, I guess.
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 bernardb...
2 weeks ago
It is more and more obvious that Hasan's religion had everything to do with his terroristic attack on America.

It is equally obvious that he is mentally ill and his religious devotion was just the trigger. In other words, his religion is not a cause, it could just as easily had been orders from his neighbor's dog that set him off.

What is really upsetting and what really angers me off is the incredible PC crap that is surrounding this case and worse, surrounded it.

It has become clear that the government knew he was a whack job. It should have been obvious that he was a danger. From trying to contact Al Qaeda to the preaching of beheading infidels and more, it was clear that the man had no business being in the military and certainly not being promoted.

The reaction to the the shootings, from the early reports when some media outlets didn't want to release his name, from many of the top brass being more concerned that there could be a backlash against the other 99.99% of Muslims who are peaceful than they were for the victims and to the military's refusal to look deeper into this man's psychological well being all points to political correctness gone mad.


Hasan is a deluded mentally ill man. However the US military is the real culprit here. They are the reason for those 13 deaths and 30 wounded. They are ultimately responsible.
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 maven
2 weeks ago
I am really fed up with people who don't understand science babbling on and on about ridiculous things.

The flu vaccine does NOT contain the flu. It contains inactive pieces of the flu virus. To say that it can 'give you the flu' is like saying someone dropping a load of uncut wood will build a house. Can you get a strain of flu that was not in the vaccine? Sure. Can you have the flu just prior to getting the shot and get sick from it? Sure. Heck, you can even get sick with something OTHER than the flu, right around the time you received the flu shot! But you do NOT GET THE FLU FROM THE VACCINE. Does not happen, so please, just stop saying it. It makes you look like an idiot.

This is not directed at a plimate, so if you happen to think you can get the flu from the vaccine, please, do REAL research, not read up on the latest crazy intratubes medical site, and learn the facts
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 bernardb...
2 weeks ago
« maven:I am really fed up with people who don't understand science babbling on and on about ridiculous things.

The flu vaccine does NOT contain the flu. It contains inactive pieces of the flu virus. To say that it can 'give you the flu' is like saying someone dropping a load of uncut wood will build a house. Can you get a strain of flu that was not in the vaccine? Sure. Can you have the flu just prior to getting the shot and get sick from it? Sure. Heck, you can even get sick with something OTHER than the flu, right around the time you received the flu shot! But you do NOT GET THE FLU FROM THE VACCINE. Does not happen, so please, just stop saying it. It makes you look like an idiot.

This is not directed at a plimate, so if you happen to think you can get the flu from the vaccine, please, do REAL research, not read up on the latest crazy intratubes medical site, and learn the facts
Very true. I used to think that you could catch whatever disease you were being vaccinated against, but it was unlikely and it would be a minor version of it. Only recently did I learn that is not the case, that the virus is an inactive version as you stated.

What it can do is give you some of the minor symptoms of the flu. If I'm not mistaken they typically last a day or two. I can see where someone with the symptoms even short lived symptoms may confuse that with actually having the disease.
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 badbud
2 weeks ago
« maven:I am really fed up with people who don't understand science babbling on and on about ridiculous things.

The flu vaccine does NOT contain the flu. It contains inactive pieces of the flu virus. To say that it can 'give you the flu' is like saying someone dropping a load of uncut wood will build a house. Can you get a strain of flu that was not in the vaccine? Sure. Can you have the flu just prior to getting the shot and get sick from it? Sure. Heck, you can even get sick with something OTHER than the flu, right around the time you received the flu shot! But you do NOT GET THE FLU FROM THE VACCINE. Does not happen, so please, just stop saying it. It makes you look like an idiot.

This is not directed at a plimate, so if you happen to think you can get the flu from the vaccine, please, do REAL research, not read up on the latest crazy intratubes medical site, and learn the facts
what she said!


EDIT: BTW, these are the same people that think purell is just as effective as hand washing. No, it isn't.

This hope crushing moment brought to you by BADbud.
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 Moe
2 weeks ago
« maven : I am really fed up with people who don't understand science babbling on and on about ridiculous things.

The flu vaccine does NOT contain the flu. It contains inactive pieces of the flu virus. To say that it can 'give you the flu' is like saying someone dropping a load of uncut wood will build a house. Can you get a strain of flu that was not in the vaccine? Sure. Can you have the flu just prior to getting the shot and get sick from it? Sure. Heck, you can even get sick with something OTHER than the flu, right around the time you received the flu shot! But you do NOT GET THE FLU FROM THE VACCINE. Does not happen, so please, just stop saying it. It makes you look like an idiot.

This is not directed at a plimate, so if you happen to think you can get the flu from the vaccine, please, do REAL research, not read up on the latest crazy intratubes medical site, and learn the facts
THANK YOU!

EVEN THE LIVE NASAL SPRAYS CANNOT GIVE YOU THE FLU!!!

The live virus in it CANNOT REPRODUCE! READ AND LEARN PEOPLE!!

READ AND LEARN!
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 icepigs
2 weeks ago
« bernardblack:

Hasan is a deluded mentally ill man. However the US military is the real culprit here. They are the reason for those 13 deaths and 30 wounded. They are ultimately responsible.
I can't believe you said that.


So...Ozzy Osbourne was the reason John McCollum committed suicide? Judas Priest caused James Vance to blow his own face off with a shotgun?

Sure, John and James were deluded, mentally ill people...but Ozzy and Rob Halford are the real culprits here.

Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people, but VA Tech is the ones to blame here, allowing a mentally ill man to attend their University.

Now, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold may have killed 12 high school students, but the real culprit here was Columbine High School. I mean, where was the medal detectors? Why didn't the English teacher who read their dark poetry kick them out of school.


The blame is on Hasan. He was the one who pulled the trigger. The military had already taken away all his weapons. Hasan went out and got his own.

And I am 100% convinced that if Hasan would have been discharged from the Army, he would have claimed Religious Persecution, saying he was racially profiled and unfairly discharged because he was a Muslim.

The US Army was in a no win situation.

Did they chose the right path. Hindsight says no, they didn't. But blaming the military?

Holy crap, I can't believe you did that.

I'm appalled.
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 bernardb...
2 weeks ago
« icepigs:I can't believe you said that.


So...Ozzy Osbourne was the reason John McCollum committed suicide? Judas Priest caused James Vance to blow his own face off with a shotgun?

Sure, John and James were deluded, mentally ill people...but Ozzy and Rob Halford are the real culprits here.

Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people, but VA Tech is the ones to blame here, allowing a mentally ill man to attend their University.

Now, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold may have killed 12 high school students, but the real culprit here was Columbine High School. I mean, where was the medal detectors? Why didn't the English teacher who read their dark poetry kick them out of school.


The blame is on Hasan. He was the one who pulled the trigger. The military had already taken away all his weapons. Hasan went out and got his own.

And I am 100% convinced that if Hasan would have been discharged from the Army, he would have claimed Religious Persecution, saying he was racially profiled and unfairly discharged because he was a Muslim.

The US Army was in a no win situation.

Did they chose the right path. Hindsight says no, they didn't. But blaming the military?

Holy crap, I can't believe you did that.

I'm appalled.
How can you not blame the military? Should they not have thrown him out for psychological reasons?

Do you not think that if he was anything but Muslim, he would have been thrown out?

He wanted out. Even if he complained about being released to practice medicine in civilian life a claim of religious persecution would have been better than 13 dead people. Ask their families if they feel that it would have been better for the military to catch some flak than for their loved one to die.

He could have claimed religious persecution, but it would have been clear that he was mentally unstable.

Your analogies don't hold up. Not having metal detectors in school is far different than someone trying to reach terrorists, talking about beheading infidels, and all the other red flags.

That is far more telling than dark poetry or someone killing themselves because of some song.

The point is that there are and were policies in place which would have prevented this. They were ignored and overlooked all in the name of political correctness. The reaction afterward is proof of that. The brass is worried about Muslim backlash instead of the actual crime.


People know that the vast majority of Muslims are not like Hasan. Sadly the military failed to understand that the vast majority of Americans know this.


A no-win situation? Preventing 13 deaths would have been a win in my book.

Surely you can at least grant that the military has some share of the blame, that they should have and could have prevented this if they followed their own policies?
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 maven
2 weeks ago
He would have still flipped out and gone on a killing spree, but against civilians. Think the Army wouldn't have been blamed?

No win situation here.
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 Moe
2 weeks ago
« bernardblack : How can you not blame the military? Should they not have thrown him out for psychological reasons?

Do you not think that if he was anything but Muslim, he would have been thrown out?

He wanted out. Even if he complained about being released to practice medicine in civilian life a claim of religious persecution would have been better than 13 dead people. Ask their families if they feel that it would have been better for the military to catch some flak than for their loved one to die.

He could have claimed religious persecution, but it would have been clear that he was mentally unstable.

Your analogies don't hold up. Not having metal detectors in school is far different than someone trying to reach terrorists, talking about beheading infidels, and all the other red flags.

That is far more telling than dark poetry or someone killing themselves because of some song.

The point is that there are and were policies in place which would have prevented this. They were ignored and overlooked all in the name of political correctness. The reaction afterward is proof of that. The brass is worried about Muslim backlash instead of the actual crime.


People know that the vast majority of Muslims are not like Hasan. Sadly the military failed to understand that the vast majority of Americans know this.


A no-win situation? Preventing 13 deaths would have been a win in my book.

Surely you can at least grant that the military has some share of the blame, that they should have and could have prevented this if they followed their own policies?
Did he say to someone in the Army "If you don't let me out, I'm going to kill people"? Not being facetious...I don't know enough about the situation to say if he did or not.

If he DID say that, then he needed to be locked up. Making life threats against people is illegal.

If he did NOT say that, then neither you, nor anyone else can say beforehand that he was going to do what he did. Hindsight is SO obvious, but beforehand, not so much.

I kind of doubt that he did make specific threats though. And thus no can be blamed for his action except HIM. You cannot expect the military, or indeed anyone to accurately predict the actions of the potentially insane.
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 icepigs
2 weeks ago
« bernardblack:How can you not blame the military? Should they not have thrown him out for psychological reasons?

Do you not think that if he was anything but Muslim, he would have been thrown out?

He wanted out. Even if he complained about being released to practice medicine in civilian life a claim of religious persecution would have been better than 13 dead people. Ask their families if they feel that it would have been better for the military to catch some flak than for their loved one to die.

Your analogies don't hold up. Not having metal detectors in school is far different than someone trying to reach terrorists, talking about beheading infidels, and all the other red flags.

That is far more telling than dark poetry or someone killing themselves because of some song.

The point is that there are and were policies in place which would have prevented this. They were ignored and overlooked all in the name of political correctness. The reaction afterward is proof of that. The brass is worried about Muslim backlash instead of the actual crime.

People know that the vast majority of Muslims are not like Hasan. Sadly the military failed to understand that the vast majority of Americans know this.


A no-win situation? Preventing 13 deaths would have been a win in my book. Look past your macho testosterone gung-ho military worship and see that a horrific mistake was made. A mistake which should not have happened.
So, who are you blaming for the death of President Kennedy? Secret Service and the FBI had a thick folder full of stuff on Oswald.

And if the Military just started letting out people who just "wanted out", there would be very little discipline left in the military.

The US Army paid for Hasan's education. In return, Hasan was to be an active part of the Army. When did Hasan offer to pay back his tuition? When I worked for Verizon, they offered to pay for my school, too...only if I signed a contract saying I would work for them for 2 years for every 1 year they paid for. (I didn't take them up on it, but that doesn't mean if I did, I could show up to work with a handgun and start shooting people when I disagreed with their policies).

The vast majority of Muslims are not like Hasan...but there are enough radical extremists who are like him to give us pause.

But there are millions of touchy-feely liberals who would be screaming if the Army would have kicked him out based on the information they had. (The exact reason why Racial Profiling is against the law...the touchy-feely liberals)


At what point do we start holding people accountable for their own actions instead of laying the blame somewhere else?

Hasan was a radical, extreme, dangerous Muslim. He is the one who pulled the trigger.

To blame the Army is telling Hasan that those murders are not his fault.

Look past your macho testosterone gung-ho military worship
Wow...now we're on to personal insults? I guess that's how Plimates win arguments now.
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 lynxears
2 weeks ago
« icepigs:
Wow...now we're on to personal insults? I guess that's how Plimates win arguments now.
Different situation, and you and I (and me and Josh) resolved it. Not the same, don't try to make it seem it is to recruit more people to disagree with me.

Not cool.
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 icepigs
2 weeks ago
« lynxears : Different situation, and you and I (and me and Josh) resolved it. Not the same, don't try to make it seem it is to recruit more people to disagree with me.

Not cool.
Not to disagree with you, Lynx....to disagree with the way people are being treated here.
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 bernardb...
2 weeks ago
Said infidels should be beheaded and have oil poured down their throats:


Also the soldiers admitted fear of a backlash for what would be labeled anti-muslim bigotry led them to not making a formal complaint.


Tried to contact Al Qaeda. Not a crime in itself, but should have been noted and acted up.

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 bernardb...
2 weeks ago
« icepigs : 

Wow...now we're on to personal insults? I guess that's how Plimates win arguments now.
I edited that out shortly after I wrote it because I knew you would take it wrong.

That isn't an insult in the least. It is merely an attempt for you to look past your respect for the military and see that your notion of a no-win situation doesn't make sense when you are comparing a claim of profiling to 13 deaths.

It was not personal and not an insult against you. and I am sorry if you thought it was.
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 2manyuse...
2 weeks ago
Bernard you are failing to understand what hindsight is.

Sure now all these bits and pieces are being brought together and painting a picture bit previously it isn't that the military knew all of the facts.

Perhaps certain individuals knew certain items, others knew others.

Did the military know that he was trying to contact Al Qaeda? We don't know if the intelligence organizations told them or not.

Also if the military labeled everyone who b***hed and moaned, everyone who complained, heck even everyone who spoke of committing violence a potential psychopath there wouldn't be anyone left in the armed forces.

No, Hasan and Hasan only is to blame for his actions.
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