How Safe are Vaccines?
How Safe are Vaccines?
With fears that vaccines can cause autism (though mercury has been removed from vaccines since 2001), more and more parents are opting out of vaccinating their kidlings.
This article, from Time, examines the pros and ..... well, there really do not seem to be any cons regarding vaccinations. It's an interesting read, either way. picked by chinook 3 months ago
tags vaccine vaccination mercury autism measles polio
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 chinook
3 months ago
The thing that always surprises me about parents who refuse to vaccinate their kidlings how they are putting their child's fate into the hands of other parents in the hopes that those children are vaccinated. I cannot imagine why anyone would choose not to stay on top of their vaccines (unless they've compromised immune systems already). IMO, if everyone stopped, it wouldn't be pretty.

My grandparents all lost 1+ siblings to polio/diphtheria/some others, and I'd hate to see that history repeat itself.
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 DerAlt
3 months ago
Another example of a kind of mob hysteria that seems to inflict humans periodically but consistantly over the years.

There have been many issues that people worldwide have reacted adversely to without a great deal of rationale.

We have fallen way behind in building atomic energy plants as one example of American paranoia.

Recent politics has thrived on it as another example.
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 maven
3 months ago
I think that this reveals the lack of critical thinking in most people. They'll research for hours before buying a car, but accept the say-so of a random family member regarding keeping their child safe.
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3 months ago
Even though vaccines are helping to prevent pandemics of polio, diphtheria, etc. they are also simply serving to shift the statistics as to what is killing young and old people alike. Yes we are helping are young ones avoid the Mumps, but we are still setting our children up for a future of heart disease and similar problems to due a steady diet of absolute crap, an easily avoidable, but rarely tackled endeavor.

I also am incredibly annoyed with parents and their view towards disinfectants such as Purell. They feel that any bacteria is harmful when in fact it is necessary to build a healthy immune system. They are increasing the likely hood of a more deadly situation by both decreasing the childs immune system and increasing the strength of bacteria. I say this because even though disinfectants are 99.9% effective, the other .01% that wasn't killed lives to reproduce the next generation of bacteria. So think about what you are doing parents and be smart. If they have something incredibly disgusting on their hands or just used a public bathroom then by all means slather it on their little hands, but please save it for such occasions.
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 Marli
3 months ago
The preservative Thimerosal was really the only thing that concerned me about vaccinating my daughter. Partly because of the mercury content, and partly because there was a history of Thimerosal allergy in my husband's family.

But, as the description said, it's not being used in vaccines anymore, so we went ahead with all of her shots.

I would refuse the vitamin K shot they give brand new babies, if I had another child (I planned to refuse it with my daughter, but it didn't happen, long story). Vitamin K shots increase the risk of jaundice, and even if newborns are born "deficient" in vitamin K, it passes easily through breast milk, so a breastfeeding mum can eat vitamin K rich foods and increase their baby's levels.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
My boss and I were talking about Autistic children the other day. Our new neighbors have a son that is autistic. My boss said that there are some studies that possibly link childhood vaccinations to autism. Don't know if it's true, but he said it seems that autism isn't diagnosed until after the children have had their vaccines. He knows of one family that has 3 sons, all 3 have been diagnosed with autism.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
Oops! Upvoted everyone and myself as well.

:p
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 tundramo...
3 months ago
« horsefeathers : My boss and I were talking about Autistic children the other day. Our new neighbors have a son that is autistic. My boss said that there are some studies that possibly link childhood vaccinations to autism. Don't know if it's true, but he said it seems that autism isn't diagnosed until after the children have had their vaccines. He knows of one family that has 3 sons, all 3 have been diagnosed with autism.
Well, the article mentioned a temporal correlation between vaccines, autism and teething. Just because they happen near the same time doesn't mean one causes the other. It also pointed out that there really aren't any studies that show any evidence of a link between vaccines and autism, with the single exception being that girl in Georgia.

I don't know anyone near my age with autism, and we were all given lots of antigen-rich, Hg-rich vaccines. It's also interesting that autism rates have increased even though Hg was removed from vaccines.
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 Kevertje
3 months ago
« horsefeathers : My boss and I were talking about Autistic children the other day. Our new neighbors have a son that is autistic. My boss said that there are some studies that possibly link childhood vaccinations to autism. Don't know if it's true, but he said it seems that autism isn't diagnosed until after the children have had their vaccines. He knows of one family that has 3 sons, all 3 have been diagnosed with autism.
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. 3 people is too small a sample to prove anything. The fact that those 3 children are siblings makes it even more dangerous: those children have the same parents, so genetics could also play a big part in it.

I know someone who's had 3 serious car accidents over the last 6 years. Each time he had an ice cream mere hours before it happened. I suggest we ban eating ice cream before driving because it's obviously dangerous.

That's the exact same way of thinking and it obviously makes no sense. While it's true that there has been some research, the article also indicates that 10 of the 13 researchers who wrote the paper have since said there's insufficient proof.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
« Kevertje : That's a very dangerous way of thinking. 3 people is too small a sample to prove anything.
A study was not done on those 3 children. My boss just mentioned them as an example when he was telling me that he "heard" possibly that autism could be linked to vaccinations. Genetics? Maybe.

I have no kids. But I do know that if I had 3 kids, and all 3 were diagnosed with autism, I would be looking for possible causes/reasons.
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