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I hate our legal system.

The guy was convicted of a crime and sentenced for it. He was sentenced to imprisonment. He was NOT sentenced to being beaten by other prisoners to within a hair's-breadth of death and being left a helpless cripple for the remainder of his life. The judge didn't hand him a life sentence, but that is what he and his family are now saddled with. The problem here is that it's common knowledge that child molesters are given "special" treatment by other inmates, yet this guy was deposited among them without consideration. Cruelty is forbidden by the Constitution, a document which grants legal protection to all, including perverts.

What happened to: "You commit a crime and your rights are revoked"?

I have no clue from what rock you had been hiding under all this time... but this 'special' treatment that they offer to sexual offenders in prison?

Yeah... that's it... a beat down from your fellow inmates for molesting a child... you are lucky if you survive...

No idea why he wasn't extradited to his home country for sentencing...

Oh I know the guards screwed up. I'll even bet money that the guards looked the other way.

However, I just don't care. I can't muster any sympathy for this man.

If he didn't smuggle himself into this country illegally, if he didn't molest an innocent 6-year old girl then he'd be alive - well until someone in Mexico caught him molesting.

I agree, constitutionally, and legally this sucks. But morally. Handing a molestor a jail sentence is just a jury's way of giving him what he deserves! I personally think a jail sentence isn't enough for the rapists and child molestors out there. The only thing that makes it right is knowing that they will get what they deserve in there.

Also doesn't make sense why he wasn't just extradited. Especially since he's an ILLEGAL immigrant. Man prison where he's from would be even worse!

IMO, therein lies the problem. He is in the country illegally, and does an attempted rape against a 6 year old. Yes I consider what he did attempted rape. Because I know damn well that if the circumstances had allowed it, he would have done it.

F*ck him. F*ck his rights. F*ck his worthless existence. I am 100% in favor of extreme sentences for these crimes.

If I had my way, he would have been sentenced to 25 years with no possibility of parole, no plea f*cking bargain.

I am glad he is brain damaged. There are thousands of people in the general public that are struggling to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads and they are honest working people. Now some jack-off sneaks in over the border illegally, manhandles a little girl and is now a millionaire? F*ck that. I wonder how the little girl and her mother feel knowing that their f*cking tax dollars are helping to keep this asswipe on the gravy train.

Too bad he didn't f*cking die.

Probably because the Mexican government encourages its citizens to border hop and wouldn't prosecute a crime that happened outside its borders.

I hope the family sues for damages from the pain and suffering their child ensued from coming in contact with this nonhuman.

THAT is an excellent idea. I think that 5 million dollars should about cover it.

Criminals in the U. S. don't lose all of their rights. That's absurd. If a convict had no rights, it'd open the floodgates. Society would be at liberty to mete out absolutely any form of retribution. This would make any crime into a capital crime, because the Mob would pretty much do whatever is in their hearts at the moment, including summary executions.

To the contrary, there is a tacit offering of a chance for reformation in our legal system. If a prison sentence is for a finite duration, the convict has a chance to rejoin society and enjoy a second chance. It's meaningless to say that one will have a fresh start later when one cannot even expect to survive the night ahead.

While I totally agree with everything you said, if I were the mother, I wouldn't mind my tax dollars paying for his care because he is braindamaged. The way I see it, he got exactly what he deserved, and now he will continue to live the rest of his life crapping on himself and being cared for by others. Four million will probably afford him some nice healthcare, but that doesn't negate the fact that he can't do anything you and I can do for the rest of his f*cking puke existence. Death would be too quick, I like that he has to live like this.

The principle here isn't about having sympathy for this man, and it's not about being soft on perverts. Of course he committed a crime and should be punished. But punishments in this country are spelled-out in the codes. He was sentenced for his crime. The other inmates broke the law by inflicting their own pumishment. If you want swift justice via public stonings, then I suggest you relocate to the Middle East.

I will then assume you won't gripe when the Government says to you, "F'ck YOU. F'ck your rights. F'ck the Constitution."

Everyone here has legal rights. Slavery here ended in the 19th Century.

If this man 'deserved' the beat-down he got, then why not the 9/11 conspirators who were captured by the US, whose crimes were even more heinous? I seriously don't understand how people can be outraged over their torture yet call for it here. The law must be applied equally, no matter how 'big' or 'insignificant' you are.

Yea, I think I'm going to have to agree with joeyneutrino on this one.

First of all, the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the 8th Amendment, is specifically for those who are arrested and/or convicted of a crime. Sure, the majority of us will never find ourselves behinds bars, but you never know, and it's to protect you also. It's to protect you from sitting in jail for ten years without bail, or because you can't afford the $10,000,000 in fines for those 5 parking tickets you forgot to pay.

Second of all, no matter your emotional hostility level towards certain type of criminals, do you really, really want other criminals dealing out punishment beyond what they are sentenced, to other convicted criminals. Exactly what kind of rehabilitation is learned, allowing, say a wife abuser, to beat a child molester to death, or within an inch of his life? Do you think that after they kill, say ten molesters, rape 100 or so rapists, that they then will be fit members of society, once they are released. Will you think his actions justified, when he beats down your son for, say littering?

There are reasons the US prison systems aren't working, and so many criminals just end up back in prison. Giving them the ability to dish out their own brand of punishment, against whomever they feel deserving, is dangerous and well, quite stupid. Especially if you consider the sheer number of our population that is in prisons, that no one wants to pay for, and will probably be released early due to overcrowding.

If you still think child molesters deserve this form of punishment, than write your congressmen about changing the law. Be forewarned though, that it won't stop with molesters getting killed in prison. Soon it will be ok to cut off the hands of burglars. Or perhaps police being able to beat down speeders on the side of roads. How about breaking the legs of jaywalkers? Instant death and forced organ donations for drunk drivers? How about forced medical research on all prisoners, including pot users and white collar criminals.

The 8th Amendment was written for a reason, and turning a blind eye when it's abused and ignored can be a dangerous and slippery slope.

Finally, even if he didn't win this lawsuit, who do you think would have footed the bill, for the special care he is now going to need for oh, the next 50 years or so? How much would that cost the taxpayers. I can't believe no one is the least upset with the guards that probably knew this was happening, ignored it, and is now costing the taxpayers at least 4 million dollars. I wouldn't be surprised if they even received a bribe, from prisoners, to let it happen. That doesn't bother anyone?

Can't we all agree that child molesters and rapists of all types are committing a crime that is so heinous. I would not worry about people getting their hands cutoff for robbery and such because that is just a gross overestimation of your rights being removed. We can all agree that there is a clear difference between the two and comparing apples and oranges is not a constructive way to make an argument.

I don't think you understand what's at stake here.

It is just my personal preference to differentiate rape and sexual attacks on young persons from any other attack. The precedent to make such a distinction is not uncommon if we talk about our 1st amendment. There are times when free speech is not absolute. Reasonable people (obviously this excludes politicians) can distinguish this type of crime from other ones and truly set an appropriate punishment.

He's pointing out a slippery slope. No need to make it over-dramatic about "what's at stake."

Alton, the 8th amendment also doesn't apply in this case, as the prisoners weren't acting under government authority, it was just assault. If judges ordered them to do it, yes, you can invoke the 8th amendment, but it's not. I believe you haven't quite grasped the difference between prisoner's actions and punishments conducted or sanctioned by the government. Even if the guards turned a blind eye, it doesn't mean it was sanctioned by uncle sam.

So no, rights are not in danger of being completely destroyed and petty thieves will not lose their hands if this man doesn't receive $4 million of our tax dollars. Sorry, but your post is riddled with slippery slope fallacies.

And now we're assuming the guards intentionally ignored this event and took bribes?
Do we even want to try to be logical about it?
Oh, I'm sorry, "probably."

Is this a violation of constitutional rights? No. Should it be prevented? Yes. Do I believe he got what he deserved? Yes. Should he get tax payer money for it? Hell no.

The fact of our matter is, our legal system cannot and will not ever deal perfect justice and should continue to act within it's restraints in order to preserve our freedoms (I agree with joey and Alton to that point) but it doesn't mean I'm going to be upset if this justice gets served outside of the government. Being beat next to death is only short of what he deserved and he sure as hell does not deserve $4 million.