Ok, poll time.

Is it the physical 'fit', so to speak, that defines a virgin? Are men never virgins? It's like kids thinking oral or anal sex doesn't 'count'. If it doesn't, you're doing it wrong, methinks. Vaginal penetration is but one kind of sex, and there's really no going back on that. It's far more than just breaking the hymen--it's experience, it's participation. Surgery can't undo either of those.

Sounds like she really should be introduced to kegels.

Or, a guy named "Hymen"

Yep...

"The husband was so delighted with the present, that a year later Natalia wanted to give that joy to him again. And the next year, and the year after that."

Six times? I consider myself lucky if the wife springs for a ShamWow for my anniversary present.

First, do no harm.

Plastic surgeons tend to ignore this basic tenant of the oath. They know it's dangerous, they know it's unnecessary. They allow their patients to put themselves at risk for the almighty ruble.

"Oh, she knew the risks and signed a waiver, so we're good right?" Personally, WRONG. Waivers should be used in choices of dangerous but necessary surgeries. NOT 'Well, were going to add a third arm so you need to sign a waiver.'

This is one of those times when the Government SHOULD step in and help those who refuse to have the common sense to make the correct decisions themselves.

In which case, the entire procedure would be outlawed. There is NO medical need to modify a vagina to 'pre-sex' condition.

And truthfully, that's a really scary step. Let the government decide if a surgery can be offered? No. I'd rather let those stupid enough to risk their life have the surgery and maybe take themselves out of the evolutionary pool than let the government make those choices for me, thanks all the same.

That's because they didn't take that oath.

Umm... I don't know about the rest of you Plimettes ... but the LAST thing I would want to do is re-live that first experience.

Sorry if TMI :)

Come wipe off my monitor!!! Same here.

my vagina just retracted up into myself. ow-ee-wowy

...because it's not part of the oath?

Heh, I agree.

It creeps me out that some guys are so insecure or weird they'll encourage their SO go get this surgery.

I am surprised that there are guys out there who still WANT a virgin in the first place...

I am not saying that a wind tunnel is any better, mind you and a man can only tighten his fist around his member so much before he strangles his manhood...

But for FFS, com'on! Do some Kegles or something...

or go here...

I'm having a hilarious time visualizing any vahjayjay doing so.

Hee.

Alright, it's time for me to sleep now.

I swear that was posted on plime, but it doesn't come up in a search...

I think Suckersklub made a mention of it in the forum, but never actually posted it in the news section...

Me personally it's not the "physical" things that makes a virgin attractive, but the psychological My wife and I were both virgins and have only been with each other (not to preach...but we like it that way) so I'm not speaking from a lot of experience. Besides a woman changes over time physically, and those changes can be wonderful when shared in a healthy relationship.

This is like the cheerleader from Heroes, but there's no way she'd need to be in intensive care. I was thinking about it, and since she heals and is apparently a virgin, that chick would be like hitting virgin pussy every time.

Also, I bet this russian girl is like tissue paper down there now.

On a serious note; this brings about the debate asa to whether the surgeons were really so wrong in this. It's the woman's body and she chose to have this done to her. Since she's been through it five times before, she'd be a complete derilect not to know that there is some risk involved.

So if she wanted this to be done to her own body, what is the issue?

My only issue is a) the culture which promotes this kind of thing, and b) the shared costs of providing this kind of procedure and the resultant issues. Unless she's paying it out of pocket, the health insurance costs for everyone increase with these events. And, c) it minimizes those who choose to have 'cosmetic' procedures done for valid medical reasons. This procedure isn't, I don't think, but for something like breast augmentation, there are valid reasons to have a mastectomy without actually having cancer.