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 No crime has ever stopped the heart of Los Angeles the way the Manson murders did
No crime has ever stopped the heart of Los Angeles the way the Manson murders did
Exactly forty years ago today – July 1, 1969 – a racist ex-convict and wanna-be folk singer in his 40s named Charles Manson shot a black drug dealer by the name of Bernard “Lotsapoppa” Crowe.
Throughout the summer of 1969, Charles Manson orchestrated the grisliest murder spree in Los Angeles history. picked by bornbad 5 months ago
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 xvbones
5 months ago
This was the end of the hippies, this was the proof the Right needed that the hippie movement was unspeakably dangerous at its core.

This is what happens when you dress your little boy in frilly dresses to punish him and then trade him for a pitcher of beer to a pedophile, btw.

You get this.

Raise your f**king children, people.
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 xvbones
5 months ago
((ignore me, accidental doublepost.))


*Jazz Hands!*
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 kerobero...
5 months ago
« xvbones:This was the end of the hippies, this was the proof the Right needed that the hippie movement was unspeakably dangerous at its core.

This is what happens when you dress your little boy in frilly dresses to punish him and then trade him for a pitcher of beer to a pedophile, btw.

You get this.

Raise your f**king children, people.
I don't understand your reasoning here, XV... Manson was (is still, I'm sure) a racist hell bent in eradicating the Black Panthers; the string of murders alone served the purpose of blaming the Black Panthers. The killing spree started with a black man, not a hippie...

In my eyes, Manson is no different than the KKK in Alabama or Mississippi, it's just that the majority of the 'priviledged' society lived in the coast and not the back woods of those states, hence the bigger impact, IMO...

So, I am not sure if he did something else that I am not aware of?

Edit to add: I see... Manson was born to hippie parents... OK... I got it... nvm...
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 thirdeye
5 months ago
« xvbones : This was the end of the hippies, this was the proof the Right needed that the hippie movement was unspeakably dangerous at its core.

This is what happens when you dress your little boy in frilly dresses to punish him and then trade him for a pitcher of beer to a pedophile, btw.

You get this.

Raise your f**king children, people.
Let me confuse the matter even further:

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Yeah, the Beatles is the root of all evil.
Ringo even admits at the end of the song:
"I got blisters on my fingers!".
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14
 xvbones
5 months ago
« keroberos32 : I don't understand your reasoning here, XV... Manson was (is still, I'm sure) a racist hell bent in eradicating the Black Panthers; the string of murders alone served the purpose of blaming the Black Panthers. The killing spree started with a black man, not a hippie...

In my eyes, Manson is no different than the KKK in Alabama or Mississippi, it's just that the majority of the 'priviledged' society lived in the coast and not the back woods of those states, hence the bigger impact, IMO...

So, I am not sure if he did something else that I am not aware of?

Edit to add: I see... Manson was born to hippie parents... OK... I got it... nvm...
It's more than that, the Manson 'Family' was basically a hippie commune.

His motives and insanity didn't stike the press so much as that - this is the dark side behind the hippies.

Underneath the peace and love were a bunch of psychotic delinquents who take tons of acid and then go hack people into ribbons.

Apparently anyway, Manson created a cult, but media sensationalism made sure everybody equated him with Hippie.
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 PulsisX
5 months ago
« xvbones:It's more than that, the Manson 'Family' was basically a hippie commune.

His motives and insanity didn't stike the press so much as that - this is the dark side behind the hippies.

Underneath the peace and love were a bunch of psychotic delinquents who take tons of acid and then go hack people into ribbons.

Apparently anyway, Manson created a cult, but media sensationalism made sure everybody equated him with Hippie.
Way to lump the hippies together.
The bad news is that HUMANITY has a dark side so no matter what group of people you have, within that group will be some bad/evil people.
There are plenty of people wearing patchouli and eating lots of acid that don't have a single thing to do with chopping people up.
Manson is seriously mentally ill. Mental illness is not caused by parents being hippies although I will admit that it does not help the situation.

*edit to add - Charlie is looking rough.
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 dischord...
5 months ago
I like how this story is tagged with "bats**tinsane"
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 bcgrote
5 months ago
It's weird, I remember the moon launch vividly, but not the Manson murders. But it could be that I didn't really watch the news at age 4...
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 xvbones
5 months ago
« PulsisX : Way to lump the hippies together.
read more books.

the PRESS lumped them together, and the older american population, which had lived through war, nuclear threat and many of the great depression, responded.

Charlie Manson and his Family were viewed to be the dark underbelly of the Hippies, whether they had anything to do with it or not.

The bad news is that HUMANITY has a dark side so no matter what group of people you have, within that group will be some bad/evil people.
There are plenty of people wearing patchouli and eating lots of acid that don't have a single thing to do with chopping people up.
... see above...

Manson is seriously mentally ill. Mental illness is not caused by parents being hippies although I will admit that it does not help the situation.

*edit to add - Charlie is looking rough.
know what's fun?

being so desperately misunderstood I continually wonder if my post that is being quoted has actually been read.
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 PulsisX
5 months ago
Bonsey I read both your posts and had a hard time deciding if you were saying the media and the conservatives used this event to lump the hippies together of if you in fact viewed the hippies this way.

I think it was the comments you made about making your boy were a dress and trading for a beer that made it appear that you somehow blamed hippies for this happening.

As far as being misunderstood... seriously? Try to read your own post.

« xvbones :
the PRESS lumped them together, and the older american population, which had lived through war, nuclear threat and many of the great depression, responded.
Is that supposed to be a sentence? It makes no sense.
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 xvbones
5 months ago
"The press lumped them together

and the older american population

which had lived through war, nuclear threat, many of them the Great Depression

responded"

really, that doesn't make sense?


Bonsey I read both your posts and had a hard time deciding if you were saying the media and the conservatives used this event to lump the hippies together of if you in fact viewed the hippies this way.
really. but i said:

Apparently anyway. Manson created a cult, but media sensationalism made sure everybody equated him with Hippie.
You had a hard time deciding what I was saying, even though it's... really right there, with me saying it.

i think i'm really about done.

thank you for all of the fish.
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 PulsisX
5 months ago
« xvbones : "The press lumped them together

and the older american population

which had lived through war, nuclear threat, many of them the Great Depression

responded"

really, that doesn't make sense?


really. but i said:

You had a hard time deciding what I was saying, even though it's... really right there, with me saying it.

i think i'm really about done.

thank you for all of the fish.
How very dramatic.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
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 xvbones
5 months ago
« PulsisX:How very dramatic.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
yeah, i'm in a terrible mood and being really stupidly dramatic, sorry.

You're right, anyway, my wording was awful.

Lemme try again:

The press appealed to conservative America, which was really looking for reasons to hate Hippies.

Charlie Manson gave them a reason, despite having nothing in common with actual Hippies.

Manson's family was labeled as a hippie commune, rather than the murderous cult it actually was, and this was used in the Case Against Those Damned Dirty Hippies.
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 PulsisX
5 months ago
« xvbones : yeah, i'm in a terrible mood and being really stupidly dramatic, sorry.

You're right, anyway, my wording was awful.

Lemme try again:

The press appealed to conservative America, which was really looking for reasons to hate Hippies.

Charlie Manson gave them a reason, despite having nothing in common with actual Hippies.

Manson's family was labeled as a hippie commune, rather than the murderous cult it actually was, and this was used in the Case Against Those Damned Dirty Hippies.
Let me be the first to welcome you back to Plime!!

I can see from your clarification that you personally are not blaming the hippies but that the media set up a case against hippies in general.

I hope your mood turns around too. Thanks for coming back and posting.
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 xvbones
5 months ago
« PulsisX:
I can see from your clarification that you personally are not blaming the hippies but that the media set up a case against hippies in general.
Here, look at this

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(the link will work if you copy/paste it, if you just click it'll send you to the obits for that week)

Sydney Morning Herald, June 18, 1970.

"Manson Hippie On Murder Count."

As far away as Australia, he's immediately identified as a Hippie.

The second line reads:

Another member of the Manson hippie "family" has been charged with murder.
They put 'family' in quotes, but only after making sure you know that they're all Hippies.

Charlie Manson gave the press the excuse they'd been looking for to demonize the Hippies.
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