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 Michael "Dog Torturer" Vick signs with Philadelphia Eagles
Michael "Dog Torturer" Vick signs with Philadelphia Eagles
18 months in prison for abusing, torturing and murdering dogs as a dogfight promoter has not discouraged the soulless ghouls of the NFL from restoring Vick to the status of "player". Press release never once mentions his shameful heritage of cruelty and disgusting sub-human ethics. BOYCOTT!! picked by equinox 3 months ago
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 bisquick...
3 months ago
I was at the game last night when people started finding out about this - there were a lot of mixed reactions. I'm personally not very happy about the whole thing, and was surprised by the number of people who were supportive of the move.

I guess people should get a second chance, but it's hard to accept that he was able to find a new team with relative ease, and sign a multi million dollar contract, after what he did.

I guess some people just value football, and winning the superbowl, a little too much.
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 TraumaMa...
3 months ago
I saw an interview on CNN with one of the new owners of the Vick dogs.

They said that the dog they have was given a second chance and they believe he should be given one as well.

The Vick case was monumental in the fact that they did foster and rehab those dogs and all but two were adopted. Some became therapy dogs. Usually, confisgated dogs from fighting rings are put down. The public fears them and those who are in charge of them fear the repurcussions of a dog that will hurt someone else by adopting them out.

The Vick dogs have proven that they are NOT monsters. The world betted on them. Something good DID come of this. Something really bad had to happen for all this good to come out of it, unfortunately. But maybe now, other dog fighting busts will give dogs a chance.

But if the owners of the rescued dogs can forgive, so can I. I hope Vick is a different man and I hope he continues to teach compassion to animals.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
Nope, sorry. He deserves a second chance at a life, but not a second chance making millions of dollars and playing in the NFL.

If I was convicted of a felony, no matter what it would be, I would lose my job with no chance of being rehired. I would have to make a new life, probably flipping burgers somewhere.

Not many well paying jobs, in a high profile incorporation or company, hire convicted felons.

The Dogs were innocent victims and they did deserve a second chance.

I don't think Vick is remorseful, and I don't think he's a changed man. He's just trying to go back to the lifestyle that he had when he was the highest paid player in the NFL. He's only sorry he got caught.

Being involved in rescue and receiving and reading some of the reports that were written about what happened to some of the Dogs at the hands of Vick turned my stomach. The man is a psychopath. Sometimes someone's mental wiring can not be rehabbed or changed.
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 raginghe...
3 months ago
Its pretty shameful to be honest. I don't understand why they can't just ban these people. Donte Stallworth getting 3 months in prison and a 1 year suspension from football for DUI manslaughter is a joke. Any of us do anything of the sorts and we're never getting our jobs back and getting raped for at least 5 years minimum.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
In Bed with Monsters

Bad Rap, one of the groups who helped care for Vick’s victims, responded:

I just can’t get myself away from the swimming pool in Vick’s yard. I first learned about it while riding in the back seat of a federal agent’s car that sweltering Tuesday back in Sept 07. The agent was assigned with escorting us to the various Virginia shelters so we could evaluate “the evidence” otherwise known as 49 pit bulls – now known as cherished family pets: Hector, Uba, Jhumpa, Georgia, Sweet Jasmine and the rest. I’m not sure if sharing insider information with us was kosher, but you know how driving down long country roads can get you talking. I imagine she just needed to get some things off her chest. She said she was having trouble sleeping since the day they exhumed the bodies on the Moonlight Road property. She said that when she watched the investigators uncover the shallow graves, she was compelled to want to climb in and pick up the decomposing dogs and comfort and cradle them. She knew that was crazy talk, and she was grappling with trying to understand such a surprising impulse.

Her candor set the tone for this entire saga. Everyone we worked with was deeply affected by the case. The details that got to me then and stay with me today involve the swimming pool that was used to kill some of the dogs. Jumper cables were clipped onto the ears of underperforming dogs, then, just like with a car, the cables were connected to the terminals of car batteries before lifting and tossing the shamed dogs into the water. Most of Vick’s dogs were small – 40lbs or so – so tossing them in would’ve been fast and easy work for thick athlete arms. We don’t know how many suffered this premeditated murder, but the damage to the pool walls tells a story. It seems that while they were scrambling to escape, they scratched and clawed at the pool liner and bit at the dented aluminum sides like a hungry dog on a tin can.

I wear some pretty thick skin during our work with dogs, but I can’t shake my minds-eye image of a little black dog splashing frantically in bloody water … screaming in pain and terror … brown eyes saucer wide and tiny black white-toed feet clawing at anything, desperate to get a hold. This death did not come quickly. The rescuer in me keeps trying to think of a way to go back in time and somehow stop this torture and pull the little dog to safety. I think I’ll be looking for ways to pull that dog out for the rest of my life.

So that’s where I’m at. A second chance for Vick? An HSUS sponsored spokesman for ending torture? In my mind’s eye Vick is still in the shadows at the side of that pool. As many times as this scene plays out my head, he hasn’t yet moved towards that dog to pull him out. Not there yet.
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 tragluk
3 months ago
« TraumaMamma : Something good DID come of this. Something really bad had to happen for all this good to come out of it, unfortunately. But maybe now, other dog fighting busts will give dogs a chance.

But if the owners of the rescued dogs can forgive, so can I. I hope Vick is a different man and I hope he continues to teach compassion to animals.
Little Timmy McVeigh needed a second chance right?
Where's Bernie Madoff's second chance? Why can't he go back to making millions of dollars?

I hate the statement of 'JUST' dogs. Take away the fact that they were dogs and then tell me he needs another chance.

He took lives which had no choice and he threw them into a ring together to kill or be killed for money and entertainment.

NOW tell me he deserves another chance.

Serial killers often start young and with animals rather than humans. It desensitizes them to death and later in life they begin to kill humans. A man who has so little compassion that he set up dogfighting for profit and entertainment is a simple step away from something that NOBODY would give him a second chance from.

Yes, he deserves another chance. He has the opportunity to do good for animals and people. He is out of jail and can rebuild his reputation as a human being.

No, he doesn't deserve another opportunity to have one of the world's coolest jobs as millions of fans cheer him on and he makes millions of dollars for playing a GAME.

If a teacher had done this, they wouldn't be allowed back into a teaching career. If an accountant had done this, federal convictions would keep them from ever getting a job in accounting.

Football just doesn't care. I hope the boycott extends beyond just the team he signed with. Put pressure on the ENTIRE NFL for even allowing him the opportunity to sign with a team. They need to get their priorities straight.
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 shillela...
3 months ago
What I think about this was already presented so well by my Plimates before me. Therefore I will withhold my full-scale rant and just say that I am wholly disgusted by the NFL's move to re-instate such a thoroughly putrid human being into a position of undeserved prosperity.
...So mad I could spit!
This should justly be the nail in the coffin of the NFL. It might not turn out to be, but it SHOULD be. It's just a damned GAME.
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 BLANSETT...
3 months ago
So what you are all saying is that convicted felons should never be given a second chance. That there is no rehabilitation and that these people are lost causes. Why don't we just kill everyone in prison then?

I'm sorry, but this is crap. He did his time in prison, he did his time in the half-way house. What is your problem, that he gets to make millions of dollars per year. So what, convicted felons should only be able to make a certain amount of money per year. If this was anyone else, a normal 9-5 Joe who was let out of prison and denied a job, everyone in here would be up in arms that he wasn't given a second chance. This just pisses me off. He didn't kill people, he didn't rape little boys, hell, Michael Jackson got to keep on making records, why can't Michael Vick play some football.

My only problem is that the Eagles picked him up. I was really hoping he would end up with the Cowboys.
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 conguera
3 months ago
« BLANSETTBABE : So what you are all saying is that convicted felons should never be given a second chance. That there is no rehabilitation and that these people are lost causes. Why don't we just kill everyone in prison then?
Nope. No one has said that at all. This guy doesn't even seem to be sorry about what he did. He claims that he's "sorry he didn't stop it". Why? Because he got caught, not because he realizes what a piece of scum he is for hanging dogs from trees, electrocuting them with battery cables and drowning them. Doing prison time didn't make him a better person. I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to get a job. Cleaning toilets would be appropriate.
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 cb__
3 months ago
I can't and won't profess to know what's in his heart, but think he should have to thoroughly prove himself in the non-professional sports world before I'd assume he was rehabbed and let him back in. And more for the role-model aspect of his profession than the money involved.
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 BLANSETT...
3 months ago
« conguera : Nope. No one has said that at all. This guy doesn't even seem to be sorry about what he did. He claims that he's "sorry he didn't stop it". Why? Because he got caught, not because he realizes what a piece of scum he is for hanging dogs from trees, electrocuting them with battery cables and drowning them. Doing prison time didn't make him a better person. I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to get a job. Cleaning toilets would be appropriate.
Yes, because all felons should be sentenced to work menial jobs after they get out of prison. Their punishment should last for the rest of their lives. That will teach them their lesson, and they will never commit another crime again. So what if he isn't sorry, does that mean he will go right back to torturing dogs, no. He served his time, that's the point of our justice system. We cannot discriminate against him because of his past.
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 conguera
3 months ago
« BLANSETTBABE : Yes, because all felons should be sentenced to work menial jobs after they get out of prison. Their punishment should last for the rest of their lives. That will teach them their lesson, and they will never commit another crime again. So what if he isn't sorry, does that mean he will go right back to torturing dogs, no. He served his time, that's the point of our justice system. We cannot discriminate against him because of his past.
Uh, yes we can. For instance, sex-offenders can't get jobs in schools. Football teams can CHOOSE not to hire a person who tortured animals.

This isn't about "all felons". This is about Michael Vick.
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 coldblad...
3 months ago
Don't say he's getting a second chance. This wasn't a one time mistake he made in a moment of weakness. Vick killed dogs time and time again. He hung them, drowned them, electrocuted them, and forced them to fight each other over a period of who knows how long. He had chance after chance after chance to stop making dogs suffer, to stop killing innocent animals, but instead he laughed at their misfortune and repeated it over and over.

To add insult to injury Vick also was arrested for smoking Marijuana while he was awaiting trial. You'd think being up for federal prosecution he'd try the straight and narrow but even then he had no regard for the law or the consequences of his actions.
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 BLANSETT...
3 months ago
« conguera : Uh, yes we can. For instance, sex-offenders can't get jobs in schools. Football teams can CHOOSE not to hire a person who tortured animals.

This isn't about "all felons". This is about Michael Vick.
Sex offenders can't get jobs in schools for the protection of the children. Micheal Vick can't play football to protect dogs? How bout this, we don't let him work in an animal shelter, wouldn't that fit the crime a little better? Football teams CHOOSE to hire the fastest, most fit and able players. Michael Vick fits into that description. People are just pissed because he is going to make a lot of money. Sounds like the green eyed monster coming out. This is america, he served his time, get over it.
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 BLANSETT...
3 months ago
« coldbladed : 
To add insult to injury Vick also was arrested for smoking Marijuana while he was awaiting trial. You'd think being up for federal prosecution he'd try the straight and narrow but even then he had no regard for the law or the consequences of his actions.
Oh no!!! Smoking marijuana. I take everything back, he deserves to be in prison FOREVER!

*facepalm*
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 conguera
3 months ago
« BLANSETTBABE : Sex offenders can't get jobs in schools for the protection of the children. Micheal Vick can't play football to protect dogs? How bout this, we don't let him work in an animal shelter, wouldn't that fit the crime a little better? Football teams CHOOSE to hire the fastest, most fit and able players. Michael Vick fits into that description. People are just pissed because he is going to make a lot of money. Sounds like the green eyed monster coming out. This is america, he served his time, get over it.
Money has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't mind if he made a fortune speaking out against animal cruelty, as long as he was sincere about it. You seem to have a hard time accepting the fact that anyone would genuinely find an ethical problem in Vick's hiring. Many things that are legal are not necessarily ethical.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
« coldbladed : Don't say he's getting a second chance. This wasn't a one time mistake he made in a moment of weakness. Vick killed dogs time and time again. He hung them, drowned them, electrocuted them, and forced them to fight each other over a period of who knows how long.
7 Years.
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 horsefea...
3 months ago
« BLANSETTBABE:Sex offenders can't get jobs in schools for the protection of the children. Micheal Vick can't play football to protect dogs? How bout this, we don't let him work in an animal shelter, wouldn't that fit the crime a little better? Football teams CHOOSE to hire the fastest, most fit and able players. Michael Vick fits into that description. People are just pissed because he is going to make a lot of money. Sounds like the green eyed monster coming out. This is america, he served his time, get over it.
You don't seem to respect other people's opinions when they differ from yours. I have friends that share your opinion and I don't call them idiots and tell them to get over it, and they don't tell me either. It's nice having an adult debate with them.
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 drzima
3 months ago
I'm from Philly..I can tell you that alot of what Philly cares most is just winning. If Vick makes some sick play the fans will eat it up. I'm betting...
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 coldblad...
3 months ago
« BLANSETTBABE : Oh no!!! Smoking marijuana. I take everything back, he deserves to be in prison FOREVER!

*facepalm*
I'm personally in favor of legalizing marijuana. But the fact is for now it is still illegal. And when you're in trouble with the law and can go away for a long time you should avoid such activities.
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