I think it's crap. They have a dress code, period.


Why is it when we go to their countries, WE have to conform to THEIR dress code. But when they come here, WE have to conform to THEIR dress code?

Sick of it.

I feel the same way; their dress code's been like that for a while, right?
I wonder though, if a dude had a yarmulke, would he be rejected too? Does that count as a cap?

From any other company...crap.

From them? Hard to say--they do a lot of crappy things. A lot of VERY discriminatory things.

To clarify: the lawsuit would be crap or not hiring her would be crap?
I don't like A&F 'cos they're ridiculous with their "brand image" and crud like that, but I really don't think she should have a case against them. Back in the day when I worked at Nordstrom or Victoria's Secret, they had strict dress codes too of what you could and couldn't wear - and no hats or head gear was def. part of that uniform "look."
Anywho, I wonder how this will play out. It could be a big case that effects other store's dress codes in the future...

That's the point. It's crap no matter how it plays out because she won't be able to convince me that she didn't specifically apply there because she KNEW she could play this card, cause this fuss, sue.

So it's crap.

They.... have a dress code? O_o Have you ever seen the clothes their store staff wears?

Abercrombie gets on my nerves. Fitch, too.

Uhm... if you apply at Abercrombie and Fitch... you know what you're getting into. I think the question that should be ask of this Muslim girl is does your religion PERMIT you to work for A & F considering the clothing they produce and the content of their catalogs.... I think it's pretty safe to say that their values are pretty much oppposite in every way to muslim faith and doctrine...

So, if she wanted to work at Hooters and still wear her headscarf, what do you think Hooters would say?

Would there be a lawsuit there, too?

Whether you like A&F or not - the laws have to be enforceable in ALL situations.

To be very clear. A&F has no problem with her or her religion, they have a problem with her dress (headscarf).

This isn't religious discrimination, it's discrimination based on style of dress.

"Can you work Monday through Friday?"
"Yes."
"Can you conform to the dress code?"
"I'LL SUE YOU!"

It's crap.

Dittos above

This is crap. They have a dress code and she probably knew all about it before applying there. So she raises a fuss and sues.

A&F has a right to set a dress policy. Do I like their actions? No. But it's their right.

The only way they can prove that she wasn't hired because of her hijab is if it's in writing or video. It's a case of he said/she said.

I too, once worked in retail. I wore a pantsuit to the interview and was told that the dress code for women was skirts or dresses only. So, I wore a skirt or dress to work. Not a big deal. I accepted their policy.

I think this girl needs to get over herself. Religious discrimination? Please. A&F is a popular, prominent clothes store, so of course they're gonna have a strict dress code. No doubt she knew exactly what she was getting into when she applied there. Just because of your faith you think you're gonna get special treatment... No. Try again.

COMPLETELY agree with bingo.

it is my belief that i should have my cock out. even among children my cock should be out, swinging to and fro. or standing at attention. according to my beliefs. my faith. What is my faith? my faith is go f**k yourself. it's my religion, and congress shall make no law, etcetera, etcetera, motherf**ker so you better back off.
ok /sarcasm, off
religion should have never been mentioned in the constitution. I understand why it was, but just by acknowledging it gives it special status and i've gone on for far too long and you've stopped reading by now. I'm not even sure I had a point to begin with.

Am I the only person that feels that a person should be allowed their to practice their own religious traditions? I'm pretty sure that religious freedom means not enforcing your own views onto others, which isn't abercrombie doing by telling her she can't wear her head garb? By wearing her scarf she is not telling others that you must wear a scarf. You're not going to tell a person that he cannot wear his yamaka and if their dream job or only employment opportunity is a trendy store for douchebags why should she be discriminated against?
If they can tell me where in their employee handbook it says that no one is allowed to wear religious paraphernalia then please by all means enforce. They should suspend all employees wearing a cross, star of david, etc. And can I just say that I think that thing they wear on their heads to be one of the most sexist traditions and muslim women need to wake up that the preference of men should not be an obligation but instead a desire.

I think we'd have to look at the original point of a dress code.

First, it creates a company image. Having a group of Amish men and women working in traditional Amish garb at your 'tredy' clothes establishment doesn't create the right image for the company.

Second, it allows for identification. Not really a point with A&F but other establishments like... best buy have a specific shirt/pants combo which allows customers to easily identify the employees.

Third, it's for protection. Some companies don't allow the wearing of loose fitting skirts and shirts because they have machinery which the skirts/shirts could get caught on.

Finally, it's a way of enforcing a Minimum of professionalism. You don't go to work at a bank in ripped clothes or T-shirts with messages. You go in professional attire.

Each of these is a valid reason for having a dress code. Company image, identification, protection and professionalism. Are they saying that Muslims can't work? No. They are saying you can't come to work with a headscarf on. That isn't a rule just for her, it's a rule for all their employees. They don't want them wearing any kind of hats.

If she doesn't agree with the store, she can't claim they are persecuting her. She is the one attempting to persecute them. She can't go model for a victorias secret catalog and then claim religious discrimination, she can't go to work as an actress and when the scene involves her dressing like a cowboy claim religious discrimination.

Her demands are unreasonable. She needs to learn that others don't have to bow down to her particular religious ideals. Otherwise, what's next? The Islamic men are allowed to claim religious persecution because the company fosters an environement where they can't work because the women are in charge of the men?

i do not see the discrimination. and i do hope the court does not either. it is really funny to read those cases about someone sueing mc for getting fat or here "not giving me a job cause i'm not a good employee"