Because it shows that the person in charge is generally a man? It's not a question of good or bad, necessarily, but default and irregular.

I really hope this is an attempt at a joke. But it's not funny.
In case it isn't a joke: Men are the default "center" of a story. As we discussed in a recent news thread (gams, where was it?), women aren't featured in a lot of roles. Our media is a reflection of our society. In a way, it's saying that women's stories...don't matter.

Women don't have to try to be paranoid about sexism. It's not paranoia if everyone really is out to get you. ;)


Just because you don't see it, doesn't make it true. Several journalism studies have found that women and minorities are underrepresented in photos...except in crime.

A better question would be "why does violence need to be gendered?" Isn't a man beating up a woman the same basic crime as a husband beating his wife? Or a man being beaten by another man? The point is that all are just "crime," not "special crimes."

But men isn't neutral. It's....male-oriented.

Again, it's hard to see the privilege you have. Interruption is a way to express dominance; in a business, the superior person will interrupt the inferior more often.
In supposedly equal relationships, such as marriage, this happens with the man interrupting his wife more frequently. further reading

It's a sad world when a sexist remark can be veiled as a compliment...and isn't allowed to be challenged.

Ex. As a 16-year-old employee at a movie store, I had to bend down to find something for a customer. He made a "complimentary" remark about my rear end. It was really rather offensive...but I had no recourse.
How often has that happened to you?

*raises hand*

oh, you didn't mean me...

A compliment is nice, but when all there is to compliment is ones appearance there is something wrong. How often are good women referred to as beautiful before any other traits such as intelligence or talent are mentioned?

Everyone likes a compliment, but the only one I want making cheeky remarks about my ass is my bf, and I would like it to stay that way. I hated my last job working in a cafeteria because I knew everyday there would be some old guy "complimenting" me. Or telling me to smile in a creepy old uncle sort of way.

Why is it so hard for men to understand why we don't like being objectified all the time?

Edit: Here's the movie link.

I knew, women sharing the workload with their husbands and not completely relying on them will destroy society as a whole. I think I am going to go quit college and start cleaning right away.

One of my biggest pet peeves is being told to smile, whether I was at school or at work. Like my only purpose in life is to be a vapid smiling head without a care in the world.

-To all the male plimates

This isn't to say that compliments are bad, or smiling is bad. But we want to be more than that. It is annoying to always be recognized for beauty that will leave us within 15-20yrs.

There is a reason why women spend billions on beauty products and services. We are scared of losing the one thing that people seem to value. We don't want to be ugly, because god knows how much worse ugly women have it then men.

10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.

False. If you're a deadbeat you're pretty much a s**tbag that doesn't deserve to ever be with another women, since you can't respect or support the first one you were with.

12. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.

Also false for the same reasons.

13. If I seek political office, my relationship with my children, or who I hire to take care of them, will probably not be scrutinized by the press.

C'mon now. Everyone hears about famous people's kids.

28. If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car. (More).

OK this one is absolutely true. I've helped several girls buy trucks, just because me being there stops most of the bulls**t. A girlfriend of mine and I actually did a little experiment where she acted like she was alone, and the salesman was all smiles and sunshine. Then I walked out from around the truck and his face just fell instantly. It was hilarious.

42. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. (More). If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than fat women do. (More).

Also false. At least in my opinion.

45. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.

I try very hard not to interrupt anybody.

Thank you for explaining it in layperson's terms.

I see what you did there

I don't think they are referring to deadbeats, I think this was in reference to guys that work 9-5.

Bah. The reason most women spend billions on beauty products is that they are morons. They WANT to be a pretty face. And thats their choice and it's not my place to say that is wrong, same with the buffed up male gym rats. I may think its ridiculas, but thats my opinion, and shouldn't force it on them.

If you want to know for your intelligence, then be intelligent and stop dithering about your wrinkles.

I think the glass ceiling most woman hit these days is one we impose on ourselves.

There is a great section in a Kiss my Tiara by Susan Jane Gilman where a female boss is saying that she generally pays her men more money, not becuase they are men, but because they lobby and fight for raises. That women are more often so happy to be 'liked' and want to prove they are a team player that they forget that a salary negotiation is a negotiation. So it's a mental glass ceiling we impose on ourselves. and as much as some people will attribute it to the male attitude of society, ya cant blame it on the men either, to do that is escapism.

There are no laws preventing us from anything. The rest is in our hands.

And yea, I want to be known for my intelligence, but if someone says I'm pretty, I take it as the compliment it is. One doesn't preclude the other, and there is no reason to see sexism where there really isn't any.

I've never heard a woman who has wanted to be called intelligent. Now I know many a smart girl and I'm positive they would be happier if I called them beautiful than if I called them smart. That doesn't mean I don't respect the intelligence of females. Also many females (the ones I don't hang around much) dress to be beautiful and not to be smart.



If you google her name (I didn't know who she was) you can see why that is.


So was George W. Bush


Business men and people who make those decisions aren't really respected by many people. They are often seen as greedy and sleazy and not a good example of an average Joe.


Ok, I'll give you that one.

A woman can be respected valued and desired, and men want the same thing too. You said it yourself, woman have always been desired you get one of the three by default. Feeling unwanted sucks.


He said men gave up, do you agree with that? Or do you think that most men do see that they are hurt by the system?

Ralph Lauren could have abused a man woman or child and gotten away with it because the Democrats want their majority not because the victim was a female, people of all shapes and sizes get abused and abuse in general needs to stop.

That link totally convinced me of the role of central bankers and feminists in the major events throughout history!

The person in charge is really the central banker, or soon will be when the feminist agenda wins.

Only the feminist minions of the central bankers would fail to see the humor.

Of course central banks will try to instill paranoia in their minions. That's how they keep their loyalty.

There's plenty of women in commercials and on tv.

If there's less pictures of women in the newspapers, its because there are less woman politicians and businesswomen. And of course, the newspapers are keeping the conspiracy of the central banks a secret, so they won't take so many pictures of the feminists, because that would give their game away. They are in on the conspiracy also.

So you don't consider collaborating with the central bankers to achieve world domination a crime?

That's just what a minion of the central bankers would say to destabilize society. They want to do the Orwell thing to language and thus brainwash us!



This has been a test to see whether women can detect sarcasm.
/sarcasm



Just joking! Can't you people take a joke!

I know I'm not beautiful and no amount of beauty products is going to change that. I don't fish for compliments because I don't like people lying. I know exactly what I am. I'm short and I'm round, from my curly hair to my big calves and every curve in between, I'm round.

But I'm also smart, and I have worked long and hard to gain respect for my intelligence. The compliments I treasure most are the ones that have praised my academic work.

Dork: You say you've never known a woman who had wanted to be called as intelligent over pretty. Well here is one right here! I my perfect world I would be known for mind first, my hard work second and my looks last.

Well now you are hearing it. Unless there is some attraction, I would rather be seen as smart than hot.

Dress to be smart? So smart=ugly, stupid=hot?
I know that isn't what you mean, but it is a common idea. Why should one have to dress smart? Why not just dress hot and act smart? (by hot I do not mean skanky)

It makes my day when someone compliments my intelligence, compassion, or talents. especially since it doesn't happen anywhere near as often as someone mentions a body part.

But I suppose we all just want what we don't get.
cute girls want to be noticed for their brains, brainy girls want to be noticed for their looks, and guys just want to be noticed by girls ;)

...Well, you know at least two now. (Me and gams for sure). I'd betcha you know more, too.

Just think about it: How often, when first describing a man, does someone talk about his looks? Compare that to a woman.

And don't get me wrong, women can perpetuate this system... they absolutely do. This is not a "men do this to women" thing. It's about *society,* which is a combination of factors.

Ok, just because she is attractive, all we should talk about first is her attractiveness? What about her talent? Shouldn't that be considered important to a racer?

Presidents are always critiqued for their appearances...but Condi was mocked. Or Hillary Clinton. Do we even need to discuss the disparities in the campaigns? How often her pantsuits were discussed compared to McCain? The controversy over Palin's clothing...where was that controversy for the male candidates?

I'm sorry, are you saying businessmen aren't males? Just because they are a minority does not mean they can be discounted...they have been put in a position of power by a system that favors men.

Women Do Not get desired by default, not all women. There's a lot of pressure to meet a standard of beauty.
I'd say men get others by default too...like assumed authority. Or a perception of strength.

Shouldn't we work for all people to be seen as valuable?

No, and no. I think the very way he put it (giving up) is indicative of the problem. He's seeing it as a "fight" between men and women. I don't. I see it as a old habit that we don't really need, if we ever did.
There is a great deal to be gained by letting ourselves see outside the box, as it were.

There are men who agree with me, and there are women who disagree.

Um, I was referencing two different incidents. The senator is not Ralph Lauren. RL is the modeling company, the one that fired the model for being "overweight" at 5'9" and 120 pounds.

...And the victim of the senator was a woman he was close to, as are the majority of domestic violence cases. I'm not even talking about the legal system or political "getting away with it," but the society that creates and allows such situations to begin with.

I would much rather be know for my brains. and I am.

Women already technically have equal rights under the law. So do feminists now want some sort of affirmative action?

I think all we're askig for is