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 The real climate change catastrophe
The real climate change catastrophe
A new book reveals how a handful of scientists, who have pushed flawed theories on global warming for decades, now threaten to take us back to the Dark Ages.

The world has already been through two of its coldest winters for decades, with signs that we may be entering a third, the scientific case for CO₂ threatening the world with warming has been crumbling away on an astonishing scale. picked by bingo 1 month ago
tags climate global warming christopher booker
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 bingo
1 month ago
Level 11 want to state why you downvoted instead of just being a rude ass?
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 bcgrote
1 month ago
It's not that the Earth is warming, it's that the weather is being CHANGED by excess CO2. Rain patterns are changing, storms are becoming fiercer.

The warmer ocean waters are melting the ice, which will then enter the oceans and cool them, creating more weather havoc.

There are photos available which SHOW that the polar ice cover HAS drastically reduced. I don't know where he was, but England has been in what they consider a drought for as long as LA has been.

You cannot deny that man has made an impact on this planet, and that in many cases, the impact is BAD. Garbage in the ocean, pollution everywhere, CFC now causing record amounts of skin cancer in southern hemisphere countries.

Generating electricity by wind power will not return us to the Dark Ages. I wonder if this guy is in the pay of the coal lobby? He certainly is not a good scientist himself if he cannot understand the data that is available on this subject!

While temperature records have only been kept for a few hundred years, other records indicate that the weather patterns ARE changing, and we just don't know how bad it can get.

I for one don't want to become an extinct species because of greed and shortsightedness on the part of a handful of humans!
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 Moogle
1 month ago
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 chinook
1 month ago
Usually I upvote articles upon which I comment, but this one is so awful that I just can't bring myself to do so.

I am all for critical reviews of any scientific theory and political proposition, but this fellow seems to be in no place to call out different scientists on their work when he seems to have little scientific understanding at all.

For example:

As the world has already been through two of its coldest winters for decades, with all the signs that we may now be entering a third, the scientific case for CO₂ threatening the world with warming has been crumbling away on an astonishing scale.
This displays the author's gross ignorance of most earth and atmosphere scientists' theories and research on the topic of climate change. Unusually cold winters happening more frequently - is this not climate change?!

I wish this article was written without bias, as this
One of the hockey stick’s biggest fans was Al Gore, who in 2006 made it the centrepiece of his Oscar-winning film, An Inconvenient Truth. But it then turned out that almost every single scientific claim in Gore’s film was either wildly exaggerated or wrong.
is something that pissed off many scientists! There's nothing worse than having some journalist or politician misunderstand or misinterpret (intentionally or not) science and then advertise the non-facts!

*edit* Okay, okay, I had to upvote due to the fact that the article generated some discussion. I like discussion.
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 bingo
1 month ago
I am not agreeing with him. Just thought it may be worthy of a debate.
But apparently no one wants to take his side :)
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 belvario
1 month ago
I'm afraid Mr. Booker has no actual credibility. This is the same guy who claims asbestos and second-hand smoke are completely harmless (despite mountains of hard science to the contrary), and is a backer of Intelligent Design. Here is George Monbiot's take on him -



Repeating the same claim 38 times after it's been shown to be blatantly wrong is not good journalism - it smacks more of desperation to be right when all else has failed.

The wikipedia entry on Booker is instructive as well (provided you stick to the footnoted facts).

The peer-reviewed science overwhelmingly refutes Mr. Booker's stance on CO2 and warming. As bcgrote and chinook have already pointed out, the simpleton view that "winters must get colder for there to be climate change" is profoundly wrong and displays ignorance of the facts one is trying to refute. To Mr. Booker, I say go study basic climate science and then we'll talk. Until then, leave it to the grownups.
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 belvario
1 month ago
« bingo : I am not agreeing with him. Just thought it may be worthy of a debate.
But apparently no one wants to take his side :)
You troublemaker you! :)
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 zebulor
1 month ago
Short of some unimaginable technological revolution, such a target could not possibly be achieved without shutting down almost the whole of our industrialised economy, changing our way of life out of recognition.
I'm calling bulls**t on this claim. I don't think that cleaning up our act will be all that expensive; its just the industry complaining.

Here is a graph showing the regulation of SO2 emissions with cap and trade:

Look at the difference between the projected cost and the actual cost. Its the same thing with CO2, the industry complains about how this will send us back into the dark ages and how it will bankrupt the economy, but its all bs. Regulating CO2 will turn out to be cheaper than it seems like its going to be.

We don't have to choose between the economy and the environment, we can have both. Some businesses might have to invest in new technology(oh horror of horrors! businesses actually have to spend money!), but its not going to bankrupt the economy. These people always complain about any sort of regulation as if its the apocalypse, just like they did with the SO2 emission cap and trade, but look at how well that turned out.
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 chinook
1 month ago
« bingo : I am not agreeing with him. Just thought it may be worthy of a debate.
But apparently no one wants to take his side :)
It would be easier, and more fun, to just argue against the existence of gravity :)

I usually don't listen to journalists, since the Uni didn't close my online library account when I graduated, I can still read most journals online for free :D
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 bingo
1 month ago
« chinook : It would be easier, and more fun, to just argue against the existence of gravity :)

I usually don't listen to journalists, since the Uni didn't close my online library account when I graduated, I can still read most journals online for free :D
That reminded me of a poster I saw once. It said:

GRAVITY
IT'S THE LAW!!

:D
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 GordonB
1 month ago
The climate change issue is purely political
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 chinook
1 month ago
« GordonB : The climate change issue is purely political
Care to support your argument instead of just making a statement and scampering away?
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 bcgrote
1 month ago
I had figured out the cyclical nature of the weather as a 10 year old during the "GLOBAL COOLING" scare. Some years are warmer, some are cooler. But as my hubby points out, if you look at the temperature TREND over time, it has been increasing over the last 50 year. As in, getting warmer.

Yeah, this guy must be in the pay of some wealthy folks...
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 dp2000
1 month ago
I just wish there was less rubbish and more facts on the net
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