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 Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant
Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant
John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin , presumptive Republic VP nominee and staunch pro-life conservative, has announced her 17 year old daughter in pregnant. So much for abstinence only sex education.



"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added.
The father was identified in the statement as Levi, but the campaign said it was not disclosing his full name or age or how he and Bristol know each other, citing privacy." picked by BADbud 1 year ago
tags sarah palin vice president republican pro-life daughter pregnant
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 ImNotBlu...
1 year ago
« makri : The humour of all this is that this actually might have some effect on some people's opinion on her. No, it's not "leftist extremist" smear campaign, it's extreme right-wing self smear campaign.

And for a non-american following the whole drama, it's just amusing. Most people who point and laugh don't laugh at the "incident" itself, which, - a teenager pregnant to a stereotypical jock - isn't really unheard of. The fun comes from the fact that it sounds like McCain campaign sees it as aPR problem, and the inevitable furor by right wing Bible thumpers.
How do you figure? With articles posted all over KOS and other far-left places, attacking, smearing, and flat out making up other "facts," how can you say it's a "right-wing" anything?

Is there any evidence of that?
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 makri
1 year ago
The point is that it's not an issue for left-leaning folks. It is an issue for religious right. It wouldn't be news if they wouldn't care about premarital sex.

Had it happened the other way around, a VP candidate's kid having premarital sex wouldn't have affected the way "left" (in the US context) votes.

And most people would see the inherent comedy when the teenage daughter of a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools" gets pregnant. It's like a PeTA activist getting killed by the small fur animals they released from their cages or an anti-whale hunting Greenpeace raft and crew being eaten by killer whales. It's irony.
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 TheShirt...
1 year ago
Can someone tell me exactly how Blue's comments are worthy of downvotes? I don't particularly agree with them, imo, but I don't find them as being offensive....
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 hOOsker
1 year ago
« makri : The humour of all this is that this actually might have some effect on some people's opinion on her. No, it's not "leftist extremist" smear campaign, it's extreme right-wing self smear campaign.

And for a non-american following the whole drama, it's just amusing. Most people who point and laugh don't laugh at the "incident" itself, which, - a teenager pregnant to a stereotypical jock - isn't really unheard of. The fun comes from the fact that it sounds like McCain campaign sees it as aPR problem, and the inevitable furor by right wing Bible thumpers.
I see what your saying. I'm not sure I agree, but I see your point.

I personally think this will backfire. Especially sympathetic will be those (women more so) who have raised children either to the teenage years or beyond, and understand how much control a parent actually has.
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 meanmrmu...
1 year ago
Forget the daughter. She got pregnant; kids do. I wish her the best.

However, the mom is very much in issue.

She's the mom who believes in abstinence-only sex ed (and says she wouldn't support funding for anything else).

The mom who says she's "proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby," even though she'd like to take that decision out of the hands of virtually every woman in the country.

The governor who proudly claims to have opposed the "Bridge to Nowhere" when she actually supported it.

The candidate who wants to swear an oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution when she once (apparently) was a member of the Alaska Independence Party ("Alaska First - Alaska Always"), addressed their 2008 convention, and said that she wanted to make sure "that the VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans".
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 vexingmo...
1 year ago
« makri : The point is that it's not an issue for left-leaning folks. It is an issue for religious right. It wouldn't be news if they wouldn't care about premarital sex.

Had it happened the other way around, a VP candidate's kid having premarital sex wouldn't have affected the way "left" (in the US context) votes.

And most people would see the inherent comedy when the teenage daughter of a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools" gets pregnant. It's like a PeTA activist getting killed by the small fur animals they released from their cages or an anti-whale hunting Greenpeace raft and crew being eaten by killer whales. It's irony.
The "Left" were the ones bringing it up.

Now, I grant you that they don't care about the actual issue and are merely trying to smear Gov. Palin, but they brought it up.

Pretty ironic since Obama's mother had him when she was 18 and was pregnant before she married Obama Sr. They can actually thank a pro-lifer for the very existence of their candidate.
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 makri
1 year ago
« vexingmodstwo : Pretty ironic since Obama's mother had him when she was 18 and was pregnant before she married Obama Sr. They can actually thank a pro-lifer for the very existence of their candidate.
Like it's said, that's a non-issue for people who would vote for Obama. If Obama was caught for somehow discriminating gay people, for example, the right wing would make noise over it. Not because they care about it, but because his supporters would.

As for thanking pro-life people for anything, with same logic we could blame pro-lifers for any serial killers that were born to people opposing abortion, or thank pro-choice mothers who terminated a potential mass murderer/rapist/pedophile/whatever. It's just not a valid argument either way.
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 yoornotm...
1 year ago
« ImNotBlue : Just as a point of note... the Clinton/Lewinsky thing became a "big deal" after Clinton lied under oath about it. The whole, "It depends on the definition of what "is" is, defense." You can argue it should have never gotten that far... but don't confuse that and the true "scandal." Lying under oath is a federal offense... and while not arrested, or jailed... he did lose his law license (at least for a period) because of it.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that part. I was pretty young when all that happened. And yes, I think it's pretty silly that it went so far as to talking about it under oath.
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 makri
1 year ago
« hOOsker : I wonder what the father of the boyfriend of the daughter of the VP picks answers are regarding peace in the Middle East?
If I'd have to pick a guess, it would be something like "We should f**king kick those f**king **** **** ********* asses and play hockey with their f**king heads, **** ****."
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 Wingnut
1 year ago
Dad jailed for daughter failing GED
Parents to be jailed if underage kids drink
Parents jailed for kids' truancy

We're so willing to punish parents for their childrens' actions, yet people are willing to give Pelin a pass because "it doesn't matter"?

We can't have it both ways.
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 ImNotBlu...
1 year ago
« Wingnut : Dad jailed for daughter failing GED
Parents to be jailed if underage kids drink
Parents jailed for kids' truancy

We're so willing to punish parents for their childrens' actions, yet people are willing to give Pelin a pass because "it doesn't matter"?

We can't have it both ways.
You can't really consider those "examples," to be mainstream or common, can you? Those are loony articles from questionable sources, and certainly not common place here in the US. Your example doesn't really hold water.
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 Wingnut
1 year ago
They're far more commonplace than you think. My wife and I were once threatened with jail time because of her teenage son's truancy - despite the fact that she personally drove him to school every morning and would walk him into the principal's office to show that she brought him. (He'd just skip out immediately after homeroom, but I guess we were supposed to escort him from class to class as well.)

Just because you haven't personally encountered a situation doesn't give you any right to belittle it as "loony".
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 PAGANEYE...
1 year ago
Just remember that Pro-Choice means just that, she got pregnant and is keeping her baby. So? that's her choice. A child making an error in judgement is so different than someone like Clinton who made a decision as an adult to get b-jobs in the Oval office.
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 makri
1 year ago
« PAGANEYES:Just remember that Pro-Choice means just that, she got pregnant and is keeping her baby. So? that's her choice.
I don't think anyone here is seriously promoting her to abort the fetus (at 20+ weeks). If she had decided to do that, it would have been just as fine by me, but perhaps not so much with quite a few elephant voters.
A child making an error in judgement is so different than someone like Clinton who made a decision as an adult to get b-jobs in the Oval office.
That's why proper sex ed and canning of any abstinence only programs is so important.

Teenagers who can't speak to their parents about being sexually active and don't get proper sex education are in higher risk of these "errors in judgement". Western countries with highest amount of comprehensive sex ed, explicit focus on contraceptives and ease of access to birth control have the lowest rates of teenage pregnancies and STDs, while countries that focus on abstinence only have the highest rates of teenage pregnancies and STDs.
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