b*****ds! (kissme, where have you been?)

Hate.

That's all I can see on this website. Hate. Denouncing any religion that isn't yours. Submitting 'facts' about how wrong everyone else is. They attack everyone but do nothing to create, or build up, or even inspire with any of their 'so called' teachings.

I don't agree with Scientology, but this website doesn't agree with anyone. It sickens me a little.

It's easy to mock, to insult, and to destroy. Whatever religion this website follows, hopefully I never encounter it.

Deep inside Germany of all places. In a tiny little village where the Internet is simply not available except by mobile phone.

Nice people. Strange place. Good beer. I won't be eating sausages for quite some time to come, though.

From the site: "The publishers of Apologetics Index / Religion News Blog support freedom of religion in thought and expression. (See: Our Viewpoint)"

I happen to have met the people behind the site and consider them some of the most gentle, friendly and tolerant people I have ever encountered.

Perhaps there is something you are not telling us.

Which 'facts' (as you put it) on that website are incorrect?

I have never understood the allure of this crackpot crap pile of an idea. I have no use for any religion, and even less so for this pseudo-philosophical pablum.

...But I'm human and I hate, instinctually, anything that is different. No kidding. And I'm quite non-discriminatory with my distribution of hate. I hate a lot of people. Or maybe I should say strongly dislike. I strongly dislike people that bug me. And that's a lot of people right now. Especially the ones who come along with their needs. Their unending needs; for MY acceptance of THEIR beliefs or maybe something as simple and irritating as some moron who needs to be in front of me in traffic. Don't come to me with your needs. I'm busy concentrating on my family's needs. They need me a lot. And, right now, I'd have to say that's my religion. My family. They rule and dictate over everything I do and say. I like it too. It lifts me up. And so, if Scientology takes people away from their families, that's not a good, healthy religion to me. That's my opinion and I'm glad there is a forum that explores the opinions of all.


*well. I don't really HATE everything that is different. :D New stuff is interesting. But, still, people that bug me. I hate that.*

From the site:
It sounds great, but what they are really doing is telling people that Scientology, New Religions, Sects (newer smaller religions), Alternative Religions (Alternative to what exactly?), are all wrong.

They're not promoting understanding. They're not saying "Well, this is what scientology believes and this is how they go about it." The article in question was a direct attack against the religious beliefs of a group of people. I'm not a scientologist, but if one of my friends becomes one, and then doesn't choose to be with me any longer, I don't attack Scientology because of it.

True understanding means that you know what someone believes even if you don't agree with it. I Understand what a Mormon believes, I don't agree with all of it, but I don't run around telling everyone that they are all cultists who are liars and trying to tear down their views.

Interfaith dialog.. Where exactly was the article from the Scientologists who follow Hubbard's teachings about integrity, responsibility, honesty and ethics? They only choose to show ONE view of this 'church' and by doing so they aren't promoting INTERfaith dialog, they're promoting ANTIfaith dialog.

Help people make informed decisions... Where? By telling everyone how bad every other church is? Where is the article on the Inquisitions? How about that piece on Mainstream Christian beliefs which have been debunked by science? Buying your way into heaven in the dark ages? Corruption among the Christian church policymakers? How about the church's continual coverup of their Priesthood and Altar boys?



Every church has a history, and not all of it is good. Presenting one-sided viewpoints is hatemongering, and anyone who reads ONLY the views they present is going to know only the bad things about alternative religions.

I guess in the end, I put this website right up there with "IhateChristians.com" (is that a real website?) telling everyone what is horrible about Christians..

Number 1: Intolerance of other people's beliefs.

Downvote all you want, I'm not going to make things rosy and agree that Scientology is the evil conglamorate which should be wiped from the face of the earth simply because it's a fad to do so on the Internet. "I" choose to have tolerance for all who are not a danger to themselves or their fellow people.

"Do not blindly believe what others say, even the Buddha. See for yourself what brings contentment, clarity, and peace. That is the path for you to follow."

Why I love Buddhism.

If that is so you can not help but be anti-Scientology. Have you ever seen Scientology's track record? Do you know why many countries refuse to accept it as a religion, but instead consider it to be either a for-profit business or a danger to the constitution?

Tolerance? Scientologists are not tolerant. What other 'religions' do you know that codify lying, tricking and deceiving when it comes to dealing with critics?

How about this:

Massive Takedown of Anti-Scientology Videos on You...

Is that tolerant?

Scientology is tremendously dangerous. Do you know how Lisa McPherson died 'in the care of Scientologists'?

How about these other people?

Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia said:

"Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy."

Scientology is also harmful to families and friendships.

You can choose to be tolerant of Scientology, and doing so is your right. It is also foolish to the extreme.

***EDIT

You have many inaccuracies and misunderstandings in your message. For instance, the 'article' consists mostly of an Open Letter. The links show that the site behind the news site provides links to pro- contra- and neutral information about the topics they address. Seems quite balanced to me.

Too while the people who operate the news site are Christians they cover plenty of bad news about Christianity.

Check Google News if you want to read positive material about Scientology. When you do so you will discover that Scientology indeed inundates Press Release providers with PR material written by Scientologists.

Your kneejerk reaction to this item is puzzling.

Man, I get so sick of people calling every religion a cult.

Perhaps it is a knee-jerk reaction. I've seen so-called religious leaders (Phelps) who teach hate and I have very little tolerance when it comes to one religion bashing another.

Christianity was a cult when it started out. The Roman's would have done exactly as this website has done. Tell you all about the things that people who have left Christianity hate and none of the good things about it. Can you imagine "An Open Letter to Paul the Apostle" asking why he didn't come home for years? Why the 'church' abducted him? Why the apostles gave up their jobs and how Christians brainwash others with their teachings which are certainly against the norm?

The denouncing of any religous group as a 'Cult' or 'Sect' bothers me. It's a "I'm right and you're going to hell" attitude. If only a small number of people believe, it's a cult. Their beliefs aren't MY beliefs and therefore they're a cult and I'm a religion.

The knee-jerk reaction came from their 'Truth about Cults, Sects, and Alternative Religions' that they claim to show.

This isn't tolerance.

There is a wonderful reference that I keep called "The Magician's Handbook". It describes every major world religion, alot of minor ones, and lays out their beliefs, their practices, and even describes their fundamental diety system. THAT is an objective offering for interreligious speech. It doesn't say anyone is right or wrong, it simply says what each group believes is their view of the world.

I apologize if my first reaction came on too strong. I have seen too many 'so called' Christians tell others they're outcast cultists simply for believing differtly... usually because their pastor/father/teacher told them that they're dangerous devil-worshippers who murder their chickens and jump off the temple roofs at midnight.

How anyone can read what scientology (what a ridiculous word) "believes" and not see them for the scam artists they really are? Any belief system that requires money is a scam. Why would any god require currency?

Tragluk, I think I understand your point of view but I also think you need to take a longer look at the websites behind the news site.

You mention Phelps. So do they. Their take on them may just surprise you.

You mention cults and sects. So do they and their approach is miles apart from the one you talk about.

I certainly don't agree with everything I find on their sites but when I see Christians promote a respectful dialogue with Pagans I am impressed.

"...who murder their chickens..."


Interesting. Gallucide?

Just because the word "cult" gets thrown around excessively doesn't mean we shouldn't label real cults as cults.

That's pretty much all of them then, right?