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 The $5 Trillion Question
The $5 Trillion Question
Getliberty.org (who has not endorsed either candidate) questions Barack Obama's spending increase and tax increases on the upper class. Can this fix the deficit?

(Please, don't just downvote this because you don't like anything that questions Obama. If you don't like it, just don't upvote it. It's not un-newsworthy.) picked by JoshSF49 1 year ago
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 DerAlt
1 year ago
This is newsworthy??

A link to a site that just condemns all things Democratic. Most of it based on "Let's assume."

Better examine your "non-biased" delusions.

I won't downvote it but this is extremely borderline to say the least.


OK. INB to the rescue :)

10, 9, 8, 7........>
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 JoshSF49
1 year ago
« DerAlt : This is newsworthy??

A link to a site that just condemns all things Democratic. Most of it based on "Let's assume."

Better examine your "non-biased" delusions.

I won't downvote it but this is extremely borderline to say the least.


OK. INB to the rescue :)

10, 9, 8, 7........>
It does not condemn all things democratic. I linked to the "about us" on the site. Here's what it says
Each year, the government becomes increasingly disconnected from the people. Both parties have lost their way. Many politicians don’t honor their own principles or platforms. Voters are cynical and increasingly alienated from political parties, politicians, and the government...The time is ripe for an independent, nonpartisan political movement that fights for hardworking taxpayers against the special interests that continually push for big government nationwide."
Granted, they would be more anti-Obama than anti-McCain, because Obama wants to increase government more than McCain, but they're still unaffiliated and upset with both parties.
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 DerAlt
1 year ago
« JoshSF49:It does not condemn all things democratic. I linked to the "about us" on the site. Here's what it says

Granted, they would be more anti-Obama than anti-McCain, because Obama wants to increase government more than McCain, but they're still unaffiliated and upset with both parties.
If this past 8 years is an example of Republicans supporting smaller, less intrusive government then we shouldn't be hearing much about what the Democrats do. The recent "socialistic" bailout was roundly supported by both sides of the aisle.
(After a peeved hiccup in the House.)
It just proves in difficult times things that need to be done get done no matter ideology.

Obama will do the same, whatever it takes. Warren Buffet thinks so and I respect his proven views.

BTW "Cherry picking" a paragraph out of multiple articles demonizing Democrats doesn't cut it.
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 JoshSF49
1 year ago
« DerAlt : If this past 8 years is an example of Republicans supporting smaller, less intrusive government then we shouldn't be hearing much about what the Democrats do. The recent "socialistic" bailout was roundly supported by both sides of the aisle.
Oh, I know, and that pissed me off. The past 8 years has not been an example of Republicans supporting small government. The whole "bailout" lost my vote for McCain, and any ounce of respect I had left for Bush.

(After a peeved hiccup in the House.)
It just proves in difficult times things that need to be done get done no matter ideology.

Obama will do the same, whatever it takes. Warren Buffet thinks so and I respect his proven views.
I do agree that things do need to be done, but I wish that we had a candidate that supported fixing things by lesser government instead of more government. Unfortunately, neither of them support that. The only real benefit I see of John McCain over Obama is that he will increase government less than Obama. But that's not really saying a whole lot for either.

BTW "Cherry picking" a paragraph out of multiple articles demonizing Democrats doesn't cut it.
I didn't really cherry pick it. I copied it from their "About Us" page.

That being said, I just went to go prove you wrong and it does seem very anti-Democrat. I found a few articles that barely criticized Republicans, but nothing to the effect of what they do against the Democrats.

So, I guess you're right about the bias, my apologies.
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 ImNotBlu...
1 year ago
« JoshSF49 : (Please, don't just downvote this because you don't like anything that questions Obama. If you don't like it, just don't upvote it. It's not un-newsworthy.)
Remember a site posted can be biased, and from a biased source... just as long as the biased source "agrees" with the people who hold the points.

Also, "newsworthy-ness" is based solely on who the news is about. This story is negatively about Obama, thusly expect the "worthiness" to be on the "low" side.
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 DerAlt
1 year ago
« JoshSF49:
...I do agree that things do need to be done, but I wish that we had a candidate that supported fixing things by lesser government instead of more government. Unfortunately, neither of them support that. The only real benefit I see of John McCain over Obama is that he will increase government less than Obama. But that's not really saying a whole lot for either...

It would be great, since I too am a smaller government advocate, hence my extreme displeasure with the Bush administration.

However, the present world condition makes it all but impossible for the traditional ideological/political solutions to be sufficient.

It's not clear to anyone right now what is going to be needed to rebuild the global economy.
Smaller government may not be a possibility for a while...who knows.

If we look at history, particularly the great depression of the early 1930's, inaction and a government disdaining "bailing out the wealthy" certainly contributed to many countries and some of our states to have unemployment above 30%. It may even have contributed considerably to WW2.

This is not a business as usual situation and our personal preferences of how our government should respond may need to be adjusted.

Since McCain added Palin to the ticket I cannot trust anything else he may decide. With all of the qualified Republicans he could have chosen this choice was absolutely non-presidential. He was just trying to attract any Hillary voters that may have felt disenfranchised, country be damned.
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