I've enjoyed Andrew Sullivan's take on things for some time now. I know he's probably been saving this piece for the last week. Great find, 2man. Great post.

Not sure this is a great article to get conservatives to vote for him.

People love her.

The best one is number 2.

But regardless, most conservatives cannot get past the fact that on day one he said he will sign the freedom of choice act.

That is one of the three big reasons I will not vote for Obama.

In fact, I'll list them.
1. Abortion. I will never vote for someone who feels that the unborn life is invaluable and that we may dispose of it for any reason other than if the mother is in danger. I know that sounds so fundamentalist, but I regard life above all.

2. Taxes/Spending/Universal Health Care. It is wrong to tax the rich more than the more. It is even more wrong to tax the rich more while you lessen the taxes of the other. We need to reduce spending on *all* levels, not just some. We should not raise spending for *any* issue.

3. Democrats. A super-majority in the Senate is bad. Combined with a huge majority in the house is worse. Combined with a President of the same party? My worst nightmare.

I could list the three main reasons I won't vote for McCain if anyone cares :)

Who!?

I am kidding

Also good points (although only a few here will admit that).

I really don't want to see either candidate as president, unfortunately one of them will be and it will be horrible whoever wins.

10. Totally agree.

9. "...and won't touch defense of entitlements." Unless Barney Frank has his way.

8. "his commitment to stay in Iraq indefinitely" A lie, by the author.

I disagree completely on this point. Obama hasn't shown any strong ability in this area. He has minimized the threat from Iran, and already stated he'd meet with our enemies with no preconditions. I fear he'll "take the word," of our enemies in an effort to "make friends"... and we'll be left picking up the bodies in the aftermath... if you know what I mean.

7. Obama didn't vote when the rest of the Senate was condemning MoveOn.org's "Betray-us" ad. This author can suggest that Obama will listen to generals in the field... but his previous history shows a stronger ability to listen to his far-left base (or at least, fear of using his authority to criticize them).

6. "the hot-headed, irrational impulsiveness of McCain" A left-wing talking point, not a valid argument. Besides, I'd rather have a Commander-In-Chief who had a little fire in his belly... not one who only brought out the daggers when someone mentions "Fox News." I find his overly cool demeanor to be a little unsettling at times... have a little passion, a little fire... enough with the professorial lecturing.

Also, do note that the same author who wrote this list, also wrote this about Obama:
So which is it, Mr. Sullivan?

5. And his ability to combine religion, with a strong anti-American sentiment, if he thinks it will help further his own political admissions... lest we forget Rev. Wright. Not saying Obama isn't a Christian or whatever... but anyone who allows his religion to be perverted the way it apparently was in that church (and don't tell me he didn't know, because I'm not buying that for a second), shouldn’t use his religious credentials for anything.

4. Obama may seek an end to the culture war, but the folks who have nourished his campaign and provided him with significant funding (looking at you MoveOn, Kos, and the like) will never allow the "culture war" to end. Besides... I thought Bill O'Reilly coined that phrase.

3. Two words: President Biden. "Hair plugs... hair plugs for everyone!"

2. Agreed... a loss next week, would slap the Republicans back into shape, give them a goal, and (hopefully) bring them back to their roots, instead of the scandal-laden, poorly managed party is has become.

1. I don't think the "white flag," gives off the balance Sullivan thinks it does. However, I do believe that Obama has exaggerated his claims in regards to Iraq and the like... and he won't be foolish enough to withdraw troops, especially if he can see their presence is still needed. Most likely, he'll make a small change to suggest a difference, but nothing dramatic will happen.

His personality, on the other hand, will do a lot for the PR side of things internationally... that is, unless things get really crappy here, and effect thing over there... in which case, he's doomed just like anyone else.

OK, I'm a karma whore.

My 3 reasons I won't vote for McCain:

1. Iraq War/Foreign Policy. I don't want to be there anymore. It's wasting our money.

2. Bailout. This could go for Obama too, but this was the deciding factor against McCain for me. He says he's for deregulation, but he's actually against it.

3. McCain-Feingold. Can you say violation of First Amendment?

A big, fat up vote for you here, my good man. I couldn't agree more. Anybody that thinks we can win in Iraq is either ignorant or naive. Also, anybody who hasn't served in this great nations military shouldn't have a say on whether they stay or should be brought home. Be a soldier, then you can talk about what they should and shouldn't do.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't mean to add the struck out part.

There is more truth in this statement than anything either candidate has said throughout this campaign. I've looked at their stances and histories on issues, disregarded their promises, and I still find both of them wanting so very much. Really, the only thing that is keeping me from flipping a coin is the fact that Palin scares me s**tless.

Are you sure you really believe this?

Should teachers be the only ones allowed to vote on what students should be taught?

Should firemen and police officers be the only ones allowed to vote on a budget, or crime laws?

Should women be the only ones allowed to vote on abortion rights... perhaps only women who've had abortions?

Should we only allow rich people be the ones to vote on raising their taxes, and the poor on lowering theirs?


I know what you're going for... but that's not how society works. We can't be everything, and just because we're not a specific "something," doesn't mean we can't make a decision or have an opinion about it.

Besides... if that was true... wouldn't McCain be the only current candidate qualified to talk about Iraq and the military, having served himself. Obama and Biden didn't. And yet, I believe you support THEM making decisions... right?

I agree with some points made... but not enough to change my mind.

Why?

<a href='http://www.plime.com/redir.p?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUsdmqGYV8' class='plime' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><b>flash video</b></a>

I don't know why you think she is so awesome, she is an average republican with below average speaking and debating skills.

Eh, even Reagan did that occasionally. Obama does it occasionally.

I said it, didn't I?
I didn't say a thing about voting. I'm saying I don't think people should be saying, "Yeah, we need more soldiers over there.", when they have never served in the military. What we are (told that we are) trying to do over there is not reality. There is no win. It is only a loss. A loss of life.

We need to pull out of that country. We have been there long enough for their government to learn and take over. If they fail, tough luck. We tried. If they succeed, great. We actually did better them.
Like I said, it's the people that are saying, "More money, more soldiers, more time in Iraq.", when they have never served. That conflict over there is destroying a lot of Americans, especially youth. You didn't serve, you shouldn't be talking about more of anything over there except more withdrawals of our troops.

EDIT: To be clear, when I say 'you', I mean anybody. Not you (ImNotBlue) in particular.

my S/O's mother announced on saturday that she believes obama is the anti christ. i was absolutely god smacked. seriously, my mouth just fell open and i couldn't close it. democrats don't stand a chance at winning over the values voters. even conservatives with logical thinking skills and capabilities are hard to win over.

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They forgot 11.

11. He is conservative.

I don't know why people keep calling him liberal. Sure, he's more liberal than his opponent, but the man is NOT a liberal! I live in a country often run by liberals, I usually consider myself one.... Obamarama is not a liberal.

FDR and Lincoln never served in the military, and they are usually regarded as our two greatest wartime presidents.
I understand you're talking about civilians, and about an entirely different war, but it's worth mentioning.

Yes, but she does it all the time. I have never heard her speak coherently about our economy or foreign policy without resorting to patronizing small town talk that only serves to make the listener stupider... no scratch that, last time I heard her talk foreign policy she suggested Obamas aprouch to Pakistan...Yah know that one that McCain condemned.

Just show her google. If you googled antichrist and Bush you will get more link than Antichrist and Obama.