No it's not Lynx. I don't hate Michael Jackson, I don't hate many people and I try to look at as many angles as my mind can fathom. My point here was that I'm sick of pedophile apologetics that are so damn vocal about how, "Their just normal people with 'problems'".

It's time society took a hard line with kiddy fiddling a*****es. Do you have even a notion of what kind of anguish and real pain and long term mental problems people who were abused as children causes? If you did I don't think you'd be making the above comment.

I do. But I'm more concerned, at present, with the way plimates are treating one other.

Did I apologize for him? No. I just said he wasn't convicted, and I'm certain that if there was enough proof, he would have been put away. But there wasn't. So we don't know all the answers.

Just be nice to plimates at least.

No, I'm pretty certain that if it was god who decides things like this he might just have 'decided' that little Emma* wasn't going to get raped by her daddy in the first place.

*Hypothetical name/experience

That's not the way the justice system works a lot of the time.

First, who hasn't been "Nice"? Secondly, have you seen the way I get spoken to around here? lmao

There was so much attention to his case, I'm certain if it could have been found, it would have. His case had attention and money and the weight of public opinion.

Three pages of arguments, some getting a little personal.

And doggy, you bait people to argue, so that explains, some of how you are spoken to.

That is the problem with almost all cases of pedophilia and rape. Very often there is no concrete evidence. With Mr. Jackson there wasn't video so all the prosecutor had was the alleged victims' testimony and the strange public behavior involving little boys. Michael had $100000000000000000000000000000000000 and his celebrity status. Hardly surprising that he won. It is hardly the first time that a rich defendant walked on a trial. Doesn't mean they were innocent.

But it does mean he's not guilty.

Michael Jackson is a real person? I thought he was a robot, no-one can dance like he does.

no, it simply means he wasn't convicted. There is a world of difference. The same as when an innocent person gets convicted - it doesn't mean they were guilty. It merely means they were wrongly convicted.

No. Michael Jackson's near broke now, he's selling neverland, He's getting sued, he's not financially fit as he once were a decade ago.
Though I do agree that money can sometimes buy you out, the Law is far from perfect.

Sorry, but by way of a threadjack I have to respond to this.

I don't bait people into argument. It may seem that way but all I do is express an opinion and if that sparks an "argument" then so be it. I can argue that I bait people into debate and discussion, it's up to other people whether they want to discuss and converse or just argue.

Also, I think you'll find that a fair few people like to try and bait me

/threadjack

I never claimed to be sympathetic, though when I read the comments first, I had just read 2many's comment in the "What made you smile?" thread, and I was admittedly annoyed. To me it seemed that the comments were implying that he deserved it. While I never cared about him and I still don't, I wrote my comment because I was too annoyed to think of the right words at the time, though I do stick to everything I said here. I still think I'm right, but I'm dropping the subject for now, because I've more important things to do than sit here and argue, family is coming over and they're more important than an argument on the internet. I might pick this up later, I might not. *shrugs*

You know. Pedophiles are everywhere. All around the world, kids are forced into sex slaves as a kid, there are some crazy people running around thinking that you get more youthful by having sex with children, and no I'm not saying that's right.

God wouldn't allow many things to happen but they have, but I'm just saying no one here has the authority to suggest that someone should die or not. you don't.

Lol, and you're saying a god who allows this has the right to decide who lives and who dies? Sorry, I don't trust his judgment

He didn't bleach it, he has vertiligo.

51% sure he did it.

Thank you. I don't understand why people call Michael Jackson a pedophile. He didn't do anything!

So, we're going to assume he's a pedophile even though the justice system could not convict him with 12 jurors?? I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous.

See, the problem with children testifying is that they can be easily convinced of something that didn't happen.

Anyone see atonement? How the girl lied and became convinced that she saw what happened?

Memory, specifically the memory of a child is so flexible. It is absurd to believe that a child could remember so much detail about something that happened without being coached or convinced by a parent.

Seriously, MJ was not convicted of pedophilia, and by the legal system is not a pedophile. Could he have been a pedophile? Absolutely. But the justice system acquitted him of pedophilia, and it is not right to judge him for something he may not have done.

your my twisting words.
I'm sure you understood what I was trying to say. lol

The world isn't perfect, it's a cruel world I know. However I'd rather give the pedophile a life and just chop off his sexual organs so he can never molest a child ever again. Every human being can be constructive to the community, had they been trained, educated and loved when they were in their troubled times.

we clearly have different opinions, thats fine.

we'll be just running around in circles anyway, though I'm pretty sure that I said that MJ wasn't convicted, and people without 100% assurance should just keep their opinions to themselves. perhaps I needed to word it out more clearly.

So it's not right for people to make individual judgments about people but it's ok to say that people will go to hell for certain 'sins'?

It's possible to feel genuine compassion for someone and still want them locked up for life. If I were a better Buddhist than I am, I would feel that way about the Westboro Baptists, but since I suck, I think I still would get a charge out of picketing their funerals.