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 The Hokum Around Photographing The Police
The Hokum Around Photographing The Police
There have been several hysterical reports (some of them posted on Plime) about how new laws make it illegal to photograph the police. The main problem here is not the infringement of personal and civil freedoms, but that no-one seems to have bothered with the truth.

The truth is there are no laws that prevent the photographing of the police providing the person with the camera isn't committing another crime.

This is how it's been for quite a while now. It just doesn't make for such a good story now, does it. picked by pocksucket 10 months ago
tags police photography hokum lies propaganda horseshit
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 pocksuck...
10 months ago
If you take nothing else from the article, take this:

The Association of Chief Police Officers told the show: 'Police Officers may not prevent someone from taking a photograph in public unless they suspect criminal or terrorist intent. Powers to stop and search are strictly regulated by law and once an image has been recorded, police have no power to delete or confiscate it without a court order.'
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 DoggyLiv...
10 months ago
I feel like I've just had a telling off. You've changed Pock, since you got on that 50 yacht you've changed.
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 pocksuck...
10 months ago
« DoggyLives : I feel like I've just had a telling off. You've changed Pock, since you got on that 50 yacht you've changed.
I've always made it a point to let privilege go to my head and spoil me.

Now out of my way before I run you down in this yacht.
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 2manyuse...
10 months ago
« pocksucket : If you take nothing else from the article, take this:
people know that. That comment, or something similar is written in all the articles.

The point that the articles that are against this law is that all it takes is a cop to be suspicious - or at least claim a "reasonable" suspicion.

Photographers in many countries, including here are harassed now. Perhaps illegally, but cops are still stopping photographers for the "crime" of taking a picture, especially when they are the subject of the pictures.

The law just makes it easier for the cop to pull something - not that they couldn't without the law.
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 pocksuck...
10 months ago
« 2manyusernames : 
The point that the articles that are against this law is that all it takes is a cop to be suspicious - or at least claim a "reasonable" suspicion.

This is why suspects are called suspects and not convicts. The role and function of the police is to investigate and act on suspicions.

Take that away and you genuinely do have a police state.

If anything this clarifies and reinforces what the police can't do, not increases what they can.
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 tragluk
10 months ago
Just to clarify a point...

Once you step onto a Military base, you no longer have the same rights as someone who is in the public. Cameras, photos, film, all are subject to search, seizure, and deletion if they contain items which the military deems inappropriate.

It's not an issue of personal liberty or right of the press to take photos, it becomes a matter of security. Take a picture of a building, they probably won't stop you. Take a picture of a group of Navy Seals taking off in a plane, don't expect to keep your film. The words 'National Security' will be issued, your camera will be confiscated, and any pictures will be taken away.
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 meggysue
10 months ago
And then there are those countries (Guatemala, for example) where the line between police and guerillas are finely drawn, and taking the nice policeman's picture might result in your camera AND YOU disappearing. Parts of Mexico, same way. "Don't shoot" is advice for the people, not the police.
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 thinkere...
9 months ago
There are any number of accounts of various sorts of arrests and harrassments by police officers who don't wish to be recorded. Although the charges are usually later dropped or dismissed, the photographers are taken out of action in the interim. This happened to a couple of local activists here.

Like "probable cause" the "criminal or terrorist intent" is more often used to cover up incompetence and brutality than any sort of credible public risk.
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