That isn't too shabby

I would be curious to see a comparison to past presidents. I assume he is doing better than most, but really i have no idea.

Quite the assumption. Anyone want to make any wagers on that playing out.

It's horribly abysmal considering both houses belong to the Democrats.

Obama has played 24 rounds of golf in his first year. That's more than Bush played in 8 total years. (That averages out to 2 games a month for Obama)

Obama has headlined 22 fundraisers in his first year. (Almost 2 per month) Bush did 6.

So, as you can see - Obama doesn't have time for a lot of things like leading the country and healthcare as his calendar is already full.

You begrudge the man two games of golf a month????? Should he be allowed to eat or sleep? or is that wasting too much time too?

Seriously..

I don't think this is a very fair comparison either; Bush accepted the big money, but Obama had to raise it all himself. Of course he's going to do more fundraising in comparison: Bush (and other presidents before him) had it handed to him.

You don't think Obama's has millions handed to him? He just got $1.4 Million for winning the Nobel Peace Prize. (Did he really EARN the peace prize??)

Eating and sleeping? Ha! That's funny...

Last time I checked, you needed to eat and sleep to live.

I've never played a game of golf in my life, and I'm still alive.....


But, I'm not begrudging my President some free time, but last time I checked, the President of the United States was NOT a 9 to 5 job.

He didn't nominate himself, IP. He can't be criticized for winning something he doesn't deserve... criticize those who nominated him.

And that money is not the same. Personal use vs. political is really tricky.

In response to the "9 to 5" thing... what do you honestly expect from him? To never ever do anything other than official state business?

Because if that's it, you can't say Bush was the shining example of that, either. How many days did he spend at the ranch rather than at the White House? Let it go.

Can I criticize him for accepting it and taking the money?I don't know where you get the idea that Obama needed more money. Seems like he spent 5 times more than McCain. (From that article: There's no question that Sen. Barack Obama, who opted out of the public financing system, has raised more money than anyone in the history of U.S. politics)
Re-read what I wrote. I said I wasn't begrudging him his free time. But when you spend 8 to 10 hours a month playing golf and another 8 to 10 at fund raising, that takes away quite a bit of your time. Any why does Obama need to fund raise anyway...doesn't he already have the job?
Sorry, I forgot.

Making excuses for Obama shows you support the president and love this country.

Making excuses for Bush shows you're an evil dictator who wants the ruination of the world.

Funny thing, though...I never said Bush was perfect. There are a TON of things I disagreed with him about. But there were a ton of things I agreed with him on.

It's no secret I'm not an Obama supporter, and I'll give him credit when credit is due. But I'm not going to ignore the bad with the good.



Anyway, Bush did spend quite a bit of time at his Ranch...and the majority of the time, he was meeting with foreign dignitaries or working with congressmen working on laws.

I spent the last 4 years listening to people b***h about Bush. But as soon as I start to b***h about Obama, I'm told to "Let it go"?

See, I never promoted or dissed Bush, and I don't go around promoting or dissing Obama. Either way, the president is the president.

I'm tired of this idea that you're (not just you, IP, but people who dislike the president, any president) being wronged because the president isn't the guy you picked.

It's annoying to always be told that you're being "silenced" because there is a "messiah complex" with the president.

You aren't going to like everything he does, no. But don't act like a kicked puppy when he does something you don't like. (see your "If I like Bush I'm an evil dictator" scree)

Work for positive collaboration, instead. It's harder, but better in the end. Divisiveness doesn't help anyone.

"Let it go"?

You know your talking to an adult right??

I think you should have told IP to STFU.

Listen, if you disagree with anything that Obama does, well, Bush did it too, now STFU!

Justifying someones bad actions or bad behavior by pointing out someones elses bad actions or bad behavior doesn't cut it. (see your "Bush did it too" scree)

Hmm... Lots of comparing of hobbies and campaign contributions, but that's off the point now, isn't it? Going back to what zebra said, how about you compare Obama's scorecard to Bush's scorecard? That's what this article was about, right? Not golf or money, but promises vs. what's actually done. And the second anyone mentions "messiah worship" or "Bush is evil", you might as well flush the whole discussion down the toilet, because that's where it's going anyway.


I'm really asking about the scorecard, by the way. I'm interested to see the comparison of Obama's first year and Bush's first year. Heck, don't stop there, go on back to Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, etc.

I still think people are nitpicking too much over his personal time. Being president is one the most stressful jobs in the Us, some unwinding time is crucial.

Bush may not have golfed as much, but he also cycled and chilled at his ranch. Every president had a different outlet, just be thankful neither wants to skinny dip like president Adams

It would be if he didn't insist on this bipartisan crap.

Example?

You're asking me to back up what I'm saying with examples? Man am I not up for that. However, I will give you the illusion of a valid example

BOO!

boo, I say!

You really need an example? it is pretty well known that Obama is all about getting bipartisan support for his ideas. Example: Healthcare.

Trying to make this thread about Obama playing a couple rounds of golf is a cheap trick, and implying that he should have refused the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke.

It's a real shame that so many Americans refuse to see anything good about Obama. Here is a president that is actually trying to involve both parties in finding solutions to the countries problems, and all that we hear are these ridiculous attacks on the president.

America faces some serious problems right now, its time to stop comparing scorecards and actually come up with some solutions. Afterall, the scorecards really aren't going to matter for another 3 years anyway :)