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http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q39« dOntEAtpOOp : lol. WET sounds like an adult station.yes...yes it does.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q38« leehblanc: On the other hand, I fear that WET would be run out of a trailer park in West Virginia and be filled with hate (how's that for stereotyping my own race?)Hey now, some of my best friends are West Virginians. Some of them are very articulate people.

Also, the part on that list about white people liking expensive sandwiches made me snort Panera Bread out my nose.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q37« leehblanc :  WET lol. WET sounds like an adult station.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q36« smarty1052 : I agree with you on many things, however Saying that there shouldn't be BET or things that are soley for black people I cant agree with. We have things like the African American Museum and or things of that nature to preserve our music and our culture our art. If it weren't for programs like BET(I don't know so much about these days) or Museums and Funds for black children then everything from our past and future would be lost. I admit there are some things that are overdone but not always. Times are changing maybe we don't need affirmative action anymore, maybe part of the problem is just laziness, maybe there are still some racist people at high positions in companies for there to be a need for quotas.. each situation is different.. there is no cure-all. Being black when slavery ended and trying to start a new life in this country was like starting a mile long race(4laps) while the whites had a head start by like 3 laps and the blacks had a broken leg to run with. Maybe times are different now though, but there won't be any drastic change in events that will just fix everything at one momment.. it will all be gradual changes.

You are absolutely right. I really don't have a problem with BET, other than the uproar that would start if there were a WET. On the other hand, I fear that WET would be run out of a trailer park in West Virginia and be filled with hate (how's that for stereotyping my own race?) but now I'm getting off topic. Yes, I believe that BET, museums, etc don't make me feel unequal. Thanks for pointing that out.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q35« abandonedcouch : You know what would be even more fair? If we allowed them to marry.

And that's the only soapbox I'm climbing on in this thread.I'm fine with that also. Either way, things are fair. I didn't mean to dismiss that possibility by omission.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q34« leehblanc :
I believe that if homosexuals are going to be allowed to share health care and other benefits that go along with marriage via a "domestic partnership" , heterosexuals should be entitled to the same.You know what would be even more fair? If we allowed them to marry.

And that's the only soapbox I'm climbing on in this thread.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q33« dOntEAtpOOp : I'd just like to say that when I read the link this post lead to yesterday, I never expected the comments to go in this direction.

Leave it to one of 2many's posts to spark controversy in the most unexpected of topics.Or just wait for me to spark controversy :)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q32never expected the comments to go in this direction.

Leave it to one of 2many's posts to spark controversy in the most unexpected of topics.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q31« smarty1052 : It's not childish to state a belief that someone was responsible for it. People can start wars and be held responisble for that.. I think it's childish to try and say no.. whites never started that in america The africans helped too. It's pointless debating this topic here.. I'm not calling anyone racist or saying that all white people are racist I'm just saying they started it.. maybe it is a little one sided.. but so was slavery. I can see both views.. white people these days hate the fact that slavery happened and want to forget about it and are sick of blacks saying that thats the reason things are this way today. But in reality I'm sorry but that is a major cause for the reason The U.S. is the way it is today. I know noone in here ever owned slaves or probably has never even said a racial slur before But.. nrvmnd.. people are just too naive.. everyone thinks slavery and segregation ended a long long time ago.. ask your parents what it was like back in the 50's or 60s even .. maybe some of the older people were alive then too..Well, I'm definitely not naive to the fact that slavery and segregation ended relatively recently and I know that you weren't saying all white people are racist, I was just saying that to state that whites started racism in America is pretty naive and one-sided.

Plus, when you talk about things like this I think it's good to identify what "whites" you are talking about because a huge amount of slave traders were Spanish, all I'm saying is I don't generalize all black people as being "blacks" but African-Americans, African, Caribbean and so on, I think when your talking blame and history It's good to identify just who your talking about, because generalization is a great ally to racism.

Just in case you're interested, a brilliant book on the abolition in Britain (where I hail from) is this one.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q30http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q29« smarty1052 : I'm just saying that here in America, in the United States.. Whites started it here. of course there was racism around before slavery and religious persecution and lots of other things.. But In this country or land or whatver you want to refer to it as Starting with the Native Americans then the blacks.. Whites started it.And do you think there was no kind of racism between the native Americans?

I think it's a really simplistic and childish attitude to say "Well, the whites started it".
Let's not forget that slavery was aided by African tribes aiding the white slave traders in rounding up their fellow African's to be taken as slaves, so if you're going to generalize and say whites started racism in America then surely you must say that Africans too had a hand in "starting" racism in America.

You see, it's not as simple as saying, in America, whites started racism.

Also there's a lot of black racists too as I'm sure you know so to bandy round the statement "The whites started racism in America" is kind of a one-sided view of the issue.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q28« leehblanc : Oh, I am so going to piss almost EVERYONE off right now, but here goes. You're right. I can be made fun of, because I'm a white male, but if I fire back, I am an insensitive, non-pc neanderthal...or worse.

I believe that while "insert todays approved politically correct term for minority group" are asking for equality, they shouldn't have their own beauty pageants, or college funds, or TV channels.

I believe that if homosexuals are going to be allowed to share health care and other benefits that go along with marriage via a "domestic partnership" , heterosexuals should be entitled to the same.

Equality means equality, NOT you do what you want and "I" do what you want. The above two examples amount to nothing more than a form of self segregation and reverse discrimination. The argument I frequently get is that we (the majority) won't allow them (the minority) access to OUR beauty pageant, college fund, marital system, etc. In that case, I say prosecute those among us who block the paths of others based on their skin color, sexual preference, etc. Such a law would also protect me from NOT being hired by an interior design firm because I WASN'T homosexual, thus creating EQUALITY.

For the record, my best friend is black. He HATES things that are strictly for black people, and he HATES quotas. He wants people to know that he got where he is on his own merit, not because they needed someone non-white in his position.I agree with you on many things, however Saying that there shouldn't be BET or things that are soley for black people I cant agree with. We have things like the African American Museum and or things of that nature to preserve our music and our culture our art. If it weren't for programs like BET(I don't know so much about these days) or Museums and Funds for black children then everything from our past and future would be lost. I admit there are some things that are overdone but not always. Times are changing maybe we don't need affirmative action anymore, maybe part of the problem is just laziness, maybe there are still some racist people at high positions in companies for there to be a need for quotas.. each situation is different.. there is no cure-all. Being black when slavery ended and trying to start a new life in this country was like starting a mile long race(4laps) while the whites had a head start by like 3 laps and the blacks had a broken leg to run with. Maybe times are different now though, but there won't be any drastic change in events that will just fix everything at one momment.. it will all be gradual changes.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q27http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q26« doggylives : Except racism exists between black and Chinese, black and Asian and so on. You also find "racism" between black tribes in places such as Africa and Papua New Guinea , racism not based on skin color but on other factors.

Racism has existed and persisted since the dawn of the earth.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.

Racism is not something that whites "kinda did start" and to state that shows an ignorance of the subject.I'm just saying that here in America, in the United States.. Whites started it here. of course there was racism around before slavery and religious persecution and lots of other things.. But In this country or land or whatver you want to refer to it as Starting with the Native Americans then the blacks.. Whites started it.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q25


Blacks

Three third-graders, a Jew, an Italian, and an African American are on the playground at recess. The Jewish kid suggests that they play a new game. "Let's see who has the largest d**k," he says. "Okay," they all agree.

The Jewish kid pulls down his zipper and whips it out. "That's nothing," says the Italian kid. He whips his out. His is a couple of inches longer. Not to be outdone, the African American whips his out. It is far the biggest, dwarfing the other two in both length and width. The Jewish and Italian kid are stunned and amazed. "Wow, that thing is huge!" they exclaim.

That night, eating dinner at home, the African American's mother asks him what he did at school today.

"Oh, we worked on a science project, had a math test and read out loud from a new book ...and during recess, my friends and I played "Let's see who has the largest d**k."

"What kind of game is that, honey?" says the mother.

"Well, me, Sidney and Anthony each pulled out our penises, and I had the biggest! The other kids say its because I'm black. Is that true, Mom?"

The mom replies: "No, honey. It's because you're twenty-three."



Mexicans

Jose arrives at the Mexican border on his bike with 2 huge bags over his shoulders. The guard stops him and asks: "What's in the bags?"

"Senior, It's only sand." replies Jose.

"Sand??? Well, we'll just see about that - get off the bike!"

The guard takes the bags, rips them open, empties them out and finds nothing in them...except sand. Detaining Jose overnight, the sand is analysed, but only to discover it is in fact simply sand.

Jose is released, the sand is put into new bags and placed on Jose's shoulders, and he is let across the border.

Next day, same thing happens. The guard asks: "What you got there?"

"Sand," says Jose.

A thorough examination of the bags again shows there to be nothing but sand, and subsequently Jose is allowed to ride across the border.

For a whole year this continues until one day Jose doesn't show up, and the guard discovers him in a Cantina in Mexico.

"Hey, Bud," says the guard, "I know you're smuggling something. For a year it's driven me crazy. It's all I can think about... I can't get sleep, the kids are getting neglected...heck, even the dog senses I'm beginning to lose it! Between you and me, just what are you smuggling?"

Jose sips his beer, smiles and replies: "Bicycles..."



Chinese

A single Chinese man owns a Chinese restaurant, and one day a beautiful Chinese woman walks in. He immediately walks over and asks her out on a date. She agrees. They go out for a while, and soon, the man proposes to her. She says "Yes, but before we do, there's something you must know. I have never had the sex, but I've read about it." He says that it's not a problem, and they are married.

On their honeymoon, the man tells his wife that since she's a virgin, she can choose what they do first. She says "Oh, most honorable husband. I am honored to be your wife, even though I have never had the sex, but I've read about it. So, I have chosen to have the 69.

The husband looks confused, and after thinking about it, he says "You want.. the beef and broccoli?"]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q24« Mershaullk : I actually meant to say exactly that in my above comment. It really gets on my nerves when people say "reverse racism". That's basically saying "whites started it".I was using the technical term...I did not mean to offend anyone. I agree racism of any sort is racism...period.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q23http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q22« gammerus : No, I said I don't find it as offensive as racism, I still have a deep dislike of sexism. Even then, that topic was relating to gender based "sexist" jokes which I do not mind as much.This is what you said, verbatim:

Yes there is bias and prejudice, but I don't really think of it on the same level so I guess it just doesn't bother me as much.

However, the picture you posted was a sexist joke. So now I don't really understand at all.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q21« doggylives : I agree with the sentiments but I don't think the word n****r should be used by anyone what with the vile, vitriolic history behind the word.Agreed]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q20« gammerus : I think a comedian captured the sentament best when he said:

"Some white folks ask why it is ok for black guys to say n*gger but it isn't ok for white guys to.
I think it is because we have a history of abusing the word."I agree with the sentiments but I don't think the word n****r should be used by anyone what with the vile, vitriolic history behind the word.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q19« doggylives :
What I feel is important to remember is that black people have had hundreds of years of been poked fun at caricatured by the media, see here so it's understandable that it is more of a sensative area.I think a comedian captured the sentament best when he said:

"Some white folks ask why it is ok for black guys to say n****r but it isn't ok for white guys to.
I think it is because we have a history of abusing the word."]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q18« dollyllama : Hmm, wasn't it you who said that sexism against women doesn't bother you that much?No, I said I don't find it as offensive as racism, I still have a deep dislike of sexism. Even then, that topic was relating to gender based "sexist" jokes which I do not mind as much.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q17« smarty1052 : Well, they kinda did start it, lol. The phrase reverse racism is kinda stupid however..Except racism exists between black and Chinese, black and Asian and so on. You also find "racism" between black tribes in places such as Africa and Papua New Guinea , racism not based on skin color but on other factors.

Racism has existed and persisted since the dawn of the earth.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.

Racism is not something that whites "kinda did start" and to state that shows an ignorance of the subject.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q16« smarty1052 : Well, they kinda did start it, lol. The phrase reverse racism is kinda stupid however..I assure you, there was racism around far before slavery.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q15« Mershaullk : I actually meant to say exactly that in my above comment. It really gets on my nerves when people say "reverse racism". That's basically saying "whites started it".Well, they kinda did start it, lol. The phrase reverse racism is kinda stupid however..]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q14
we hardly ever take things like this personally and i could careless if someone was making fun of something white people do...odds are it is true and that is what makes it funny!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q13« thenegativeone : Why is it Reverse racism?

Racism is Racism is Racism is it not?

(Not addressed to you Hypermdavis, just a general observation and yours was the first post I found with the term in it)I actually meant to say exactly that in my above comment. It really gets on my nerves when people say "reverse racism". That's basically saying "whites started it".]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q12« Hypermdavis : I agree that reverse racism is wrong...Why is it Reverse racism?

Racism is Racism is Racism is it not?

(Not addressed to you Hypermdavis, just a general observation and yours was the first post I found with the term in it)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q11« leehblanc : Stuff.And that's why I make fun of everybody equally. If I think of something funny about someone or their ethnicity, I'm gonna say it. European, Asian, African; I don't care. Anyone who thinks that it's okay to make fun of whites but not blacks, or any other ethnicity for that matter, is a racist.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q10« gammerus : It is just kinda annoying that is ok to laugh at white guys but not blacks..


kinda like the double standards when it comes to sex.

This is considered funny, but if you reverse the genders it becomes morally wrong.

Hmm, wasn't it you who said that sexism against women doesn't bother you that much?]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q9
I shared the post with some of my white friends and they laughed their asses off!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q8« gammerus : It is just kinda annoying that is ok to laugh at white guys but not blacks..


kinda like the double standards when it comes to sex.

This is considered funny, but if you reverse the genders it becomes morally wrong.

I can only comment from a personal perspective. My wife and I have a mixed-race daughter and I don't get hung up and over-sensative about funny jokes and comments that are meant in a light-hearted jokey manner as this article was obviously written.

I would on the other hand take offense at someone stereotyping and poking fun at my daughter based on her looks and I felt This post did just that, poking fun at people based on there appearance.

I think jokes and comments must be looked at on merit and by who and in what context the joke/comment was made in.

This article was clearly intended to be humorous and poking gentle fun at us white folk. This wouldn't have offended me if it was written about black folk in a similar good-natured "laugh with them, not at them" kind of way.

Personally I believe society in general sees poking fun at white people more acceptable because it generally doesn't have the undertones of hundreds of years of abusive, racist and nasty history that making fun of black people can sometimes carry.

What I feel is important to remember is that black people have had hundreds of years of been poked fun at caricatured by the media, see here so it's understandable that it is more of a sensative area.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q7« gammerus : This double standard racism crap has got to go.Oh, I am so going to piss almost EVERYONE off right now, but here goes. You're right. I can be made fun of, because I'm a white male, but if I fire back, I am an insensitive, non-pc neanderthal...or worse.

I believe that while "insert todays approved politically correct term for minority group" are asking for equality, they shouldn't have their own beauty pageants, or college funds, or TV channels.

I believe that if homosexuals are going to be allowed to share health care and other benefits that go along with marriage via a "domestic partnership" , heterosexuals should be entitled to the same.

Equality means equality, NOT you do what you want and "I" do what you want. The above two examples amount to nothing more than a form of self segregation and reverse discrimination. The argument I frequently get is that we (the majority) won't allow them (the minority) access to OUR beauty pageant, college fund, marital system, etc. In that case, I say prosecute those among us who block the paths of others based on their skin color, sexual preference, etc. Such a law would also protect me from NOT being hired by an interior design firm because I WASN'T homosexual, thus creating EQUALITY.

For the record, my best friend is black. He HATES things that are strictly for black people, and he HATES quotas. He wants people to know that he got where he is on his own merit, not because they needed someone non-white in his position.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q6

kinda like the double standards when it comes to sex.

This is considered funny, but if you reverse the genders it becomes morally wrong.

]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q5« doggylives : In response to Gammerus' comment I just wanted to ask exactly what "double standard racism crap" you mean.Please tell me you noticed the subtle racist comments thrown in every now and then...
I actually thought most of it was funny, but yea, I'm sick of the "double standard racism crap", too, Gammerus, we have that alot down here in the south.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q4« dOntEAtpOOp : That is hilarious.

My favorite is "standing still at concerts"That was one of my favorites :) I go to a lot of metal gigs and even there you get a lot of people at the back standing rooted to the spot while theres a huge mosh pit down the front.

In response to Gammerus' comment I just wanted to ask exactly what "double standard racism crap" you mean.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q3http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/51640/1/rss0_91.rss#q2
My favorite is "standing still at concerts"

The problem is that most of the music that white people like isn’t really dance-friendly. More often the songs are about pain, or love, or breaking up with someone, or not being able to date someone, or death.

So when white people go to concerts at smaller venues, what to do they do? They stand still! This is an important part of white concert going as it enables you to focus on the music, and it will prevent drawing excess attention to you. Remember, at a concert everyone is watching you just waiting for you to try to start dancing. Then they will make fun of you.

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