Well we wouldn't want kinky lengerie to be sexy, would we?

VS counts as kinky? Wow...

I think the bigger problem is that functionality has slipped away whilst price has increased. To get a bra that actually provide support, one should NOT be required to have any degree of padding!

I personally have had to return several bras to Vicki's as of late....the quality is going down hill and the bras are designed for silicone usage...not REAL women

I'm...too sexy for my brand, too sexy for my bras...

By my outdated 1950's estimation, yes.

Three little differences...There's very little leather, no latex, and if something is pinching, it's not because VS designed it that way.

OK, that's probably TMI. :)

Their products aren't worn by REAL women. They are worn by Barbie Dolls posing as women. I am very cynical when it comes VS. I change the channel or leave the room when their commercials come on. I am interested to know what their idea of "feminine" is.

Hey--I am not a Barbie doll! :p

Neither am I...thank goodness. ;)

I'm suddenly glad that these don't air on our TV stations. I like VS by default, since the mainstream lingerie store here, La Senza, is absolute crap. It's handy because if I know what sizes and bras fit, I can just order online and not have to worry about it (there aren't any stores here).

But see, that's the point. VS didn't USED to be kinky. They left that up to Frederick's of Hollywood, as I recall.
I've hated VS for ever. They don't make undies for human-shaped women, and every "new innovation" they come out with is pathetic. It's impossible to buy a bra without super-thick padding in it, and anything you DO buy falls apart the second or third time you wash it, even if you hand wash.
Feh.

I think that you are forgetting that Victorias Secret was created so that men could buy lingerie for their wives without feeling like perverts. Victorias Sectret was founded on kink. Fredricks of Hollywood just took it to another level.

"...too sexy by far..."


Arrgh! You beat me to it!

Wait, wait, wait...now you're saying that men buying lingerie for their own wives is "kinky"?!?!

So, how repressed and conservative do you have to be to not fall under the category of "kinky"?

Am I the only one here who thinks that VS stuff is actually pretty vanilla?