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http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q30http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q29« 1thirteen3:Actually gold does not fluctuate much at all. It fluctuates in regards to the dollar, but that's because the dollar fluctuates so much.

If you look at gold v. oil and dollar v. oil, gold is extremely stable.

In 1913, $20 would buy you a troy ounce of gold. Today, a troy ounce of gold costs you over $800. That means our dollar is worth less than 4% of what it used to.Actually gold is very volatile, much more so than the US dollar. That's why the dollar is the accepted world currency and has been for many many years. It's very stable. That only means no significant fluctuation.

Golds value is artificial. The dollar, while not backed by gold, nor are rest of the worlds currencies, is supported by the economy of the US. Our economy is faltering a bit and so the dollar decines in value. However, unless you believe that the US is fatally wounded and will not rebound as it has for it's entire history I wouldn't sell the dollar short.

If you choose to invest in gold as an alternative then you best be on top of the worlds economic news constantly. Whenever the worlds economy perks up gold drops. It has no substantive value except for the emotion of the gold commodity traders. And if you actually own gold and not shares you'll have to pay someone a fee for caretaking or lock it in a closet.

The value of the dollar is not tied into the price of gold at all. Because gold has risen from $20 to over $800 per ounce in 100 years does not indicate that our dollar is 4% of it's 1913 value.

Inflation is a hell of a lot more complicated than the price of any single commodity.

The 100% dollar you seem to be speaking of in 1913 reflected weeks wages of less than $10, price of bread to be 10 cents and you could get a beer and a free lunch for 5 cents. There is no single basis for making a comparison of the dollar, historical prices, wages or the price of gold.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q28« DerAlt : Yes but the gold standard has been gone for a long time too. When the gold standard was still in force the artificial value was created by the US as $35 an ounce. Once the standard was removed gold rose in value as did all the gold the US holds in Ft Knox.

Gold is not "solid money," it's a traded commodity and as such it's value fluctuates much more than the US dollar.

Today gold is at a very high price but when/if the US/world situation improves it will drop like a rock. Gold is as volatile as the stock market and owning it has it's downsides as compared to stock or dollars for that matter.Actually gold does not fluctuate much at all. It fluctuates in regards to the dollar, but that's because the dollar fluctuates so much.

If you look at gold v. oil and dollar v. oil, gold is extremely stable.

In 1913, $20 would buy you a troy ounce of gold. Today, a troy ounce of gold costs you over $800. That means our dollar is worth less than 4% of what it used to.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q27« 1thirteen3 : Well, technically, yes.

Money is basically a representation of a value. Your money is only worth as much as you can exchange it in for.

The reason why gold is considered solid money is because it has been the standard for exchange for a very long time.Yes but the gold standard has been gone for a long time too. When the gold standard was still in force the artificial value was created by the US as $35 an ounce. Once the standard was removed gold rose in value as did all the gold the US holds in Ft Knox.

Gold is not "solid money," it's a traded commodity and as such it's value fluctuates much more than the US dollar.

Today gold is at a very high price but when/if the US/world situation improves it will drop like a rock. Gold is as volatile as the stock market and owning it has it's downsides as compared to stock or dollars for that matter.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q26« 2manyusernames : BY that token,

ALL money is "fake" money. Even your gold bars is "fake" money.

After all its only worth is what people agree it has.

All of it "represents" real value.Well, technically, yes.

Money is basically a representation of a value. Your money is only worth as much as you can exchange it in for.

The reason why gold is considered solid money is because it has been the standard for exchange for a very long time.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q25« 1thirteen3 :Fake money is not real money, because it's only representing real money BY that token,

ALL money is "fake" money. Even your gold bars is "fake" money.

After all its only worth is what people agree it has.

All of it "represents" real value.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q24« 1thirteen3 : Paper money, specifically paper money without a backing is considered fiat money, or what I call fake money.

This might get a little complicated FYI. Say for example you have 10 gold bars. You make 10 pieces of paper , each one representing one gold bar, and you hand it out to ten people saying they can redeem this at anytime for one bar of gold. Each of those pieces of paper is worth 1 gold bar.

But then you decide people aren't using their bills as much, so you decide to make 10 more pieces of paper and give it out to people. Now you have 20 pieces of paper each representing one gold bar, but you only have 10 gold bars. This represents inflation, because each piece of paper is now only worth 1/2 bar of gold.

Now we move to the U.S. Our paper money isn't worth a set amount of gold, because our money has no backing. So it's almost an extreme inflation that no has noticed until recently as this economic crisis has arisen. Our money used to be the standard, so it was good. It no longer is the standard. So, really, the dollar bill is worth it's weight in paper.

So, now we get to the fake money part. Fake money is not real money, because it's only representing real money. The problem is, when it represents money (or gold), you can exchange it for that set about of gold. The problem arises when you don't wanna sell back your gold, that piece of paper becomes worthless.

So that's what our money system is. Fake money.

]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q23« haven : Just as a bit of warning... I am a natural blonde.
That said...
I don't get it.Paper money, specifically paper money without a backing is considered fiat money, or what I call fake money.

This might get a little complicated FYI. Say for example you have 10 gold bars. You make 10 pieces of paper , each one representing one gold bar, and you hand it out to ten people saying they can redeem this at anytime for one bar of gold. Each of those pieces of paper is worth 1 gold bar.

But then you decide people aren't using their bills as much, so you decide to make 10 more pieces of paper and give it out to people. Now you have 20 pieces of paper each representing one gold bar, but you only have 10 gold bars. This represents inflation, because each piece of paper is now only worth 1/2 bar of gold.

Now we move to the U.S. Our paper money isn't worth a set amount of gold, because our money has no backing. So it's almost an extreme inflation that no has noticed until recently as this economic crisis has arisen. Our money used to be the standard, so it was good. It no longer is the standard. So, really, the dollar bill is worth it's weight in paper.

So, now we get to the fake money part. Fake money is not real money, because it's only representing real money. The problem is, when it represents money (or gold), you can exchange it for that set about of gold. The problem arises when you don't wanna sell back your gold, that piece of paper becomes worthless.

So that's what our money system is. Fake money.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q22« 1thirteen3 :I'm more worried about how we really only have "fake" money. I like the bills I get that say "this is not real money" :).Just as a bit of warning... I am a natural blonde.
That said...
I don't get it.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q21
Anyone that crosses out God on the money is a little too sensitive.

I'm more worried about how we really only have "fake" money. I like the bills I get that say "this is not real money" :).

Needless to say...how is he going to fix all the pennies and nickels, etc. he gets?

Does anyone actually look at their bill most the time when they're paying? no.

Also something interesting to think about is that when this guy spends money (whether or not he's crossed god out) he's not endorsing God. But when others spend their godless money they're endorsing atheism.

Too much effort for too little effect imo.

Plus if God was already in the money, crossing out his name wouldn't take him out of the money.

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But this seems like a lot of effort for something that will only really "make a statement" to those who already know what the statement is supposed to be.

I'd label this an "ineffective protest."]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q19


I'd like to do this, I'm just too lazy.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q18
Just goes to show you don't only get religious extremists.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q17http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q16« doggylives : Thats just showing off ;)Yes, it is, I admit it, and I'm only showing off the fact that I have a list of "daily dictionary" emails, sorted alphabetically...]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q15« rambler : Award accepted with alacrity!Thats just showing off ;)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q14« chinook : You get today's awesome alliteration award!Award accepted with alacrity!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q13« Bandit : Same joke.
Cheese tends to bind a little.Oh right, good one. Funny lil fella *ruffles bandits hair*]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q12« Bandit : All I'm saying is that if I post a link saying that I believe in God, I am somehow forcing my belief system on someone. If an atheist posts a link, that is somehow translated into his constitutional right and I'm just closed minded.I don't think so. Nobody claimed that religion was being forced upon them in the posts about that scientist finding god in the human genome and in the far corners of astronomy.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q11« rambler : Mitchell is a (mad?) man on a major and manic mission - to mollify Mammon?
You get today's awesome alliteration award!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q10« doggylives : I get the "get some more bran" = Anally retentive (?) but "lay off the cheese"? I don't get it.Same joke.
Cheese tends to bind a little.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q9« Bandit : Chill out dude.
Lay off the cheese and get some more bran in your diet.I get the "get some more bran" = Anally retentive (?) but "lay off the cheese"? I don't get it.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q8

http://www.plime.com/religion/l/40480/1/

but it was 5 months ago, so no dupe.

What is odd is it is one of the 100's of posts that have been semi-deleted.
When I first went to the page it was blank.
I was curious if it had been deliberately deleted to save space or from a bug. When I did the edit-work-around it brought it back so looks like some weird bug and not a deliberate deletion]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q7http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q6« doggylives : Why? Has he been knocking on your door offering you "De-God you money" studies? or do you mean the gun to your head while you clicked the link?Chill out dude.
Lay off the cheese and get some more bran in your diet.

All I'm saying is that if I post a link saying that I believe in God, I am somehow forcing my belief system on someone. If an atheist posts a link, that is somehow translated into his constitutional right and I'm just closed minded.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q5
Is his campaign maybe to blame for the drop of the US$ against the Euro and the GB pound, etc.?]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q4http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q3My Fault.
I didn't read that far down.

He's just forcing his opinion/belief system on me.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/57891/1/rss0_91.rss#q2http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/17/sections/section_333.html]]>