Firstly, STOP with the CAPITAL words. THATS THE EQUIVELANT OF YELLING. You're entitled to your view on this issue, and entitled to be passionate about it, but you don't have to be an a*****e.

Now, onto the issue at hand. Yeah, the video asked about something that was somewhat irrelevant to the abortion issue. I think the protestors should have some idea about what sort of consequences there would be, but I don't expect them to be lawmakers either.

The issue, as I see it; is when is the fetus considered a human? 'The moment of conception' seems to be the view of most pro-lifers, but others offer arguments that humanity happens during some trimestor or another, and still others believe it does not occur until birth.

Personally, I am pro-choice. I don't like abortion or the idea of it, but I think the woman should have the right to choose. If a woman is raped, how fair is it to ask her to birth the child? If the child is going to be born with some serious defects, I feel that it should be up to the parent(s) to decide.

I can't help but think that the clips were cherry-picked to be put in the video. Not to mention the fact that the last person directed the interviewer to a specific person that was on the street with them that we never saw.

I was thinking the same thing.

They most likely were, in order to make the point of the video in a reasonable time frame. The point was, IMHO, to illustrate how people get involved in very emotional issues and take stances without ever thinking their position through.

It was a very valid and reasonable question. If you want to make something illegal you should have some idea of how serious a "crime" you consider it to be and have formulated an appropriate punishment.

Considering that it takes the fertilized cell almost 3 weeks to even become a primative smear on the uterine wall, calling an early abortion murder is ridiculous.

That classification is entirely religious and not scientific at all.

If science were to be the guide here then the "morning after" pill should satisfy everyone. It would just be eliminating a tiny group of cells called a zygote. Hardly anything someone would call a human. Unless of course you are being guided by your personal religious interpretation, personal being the key word here.

While not pertinant to this discussion, it could be noted that many anti abortionists are also against birth control methods as well. To me, that makes their entire anti abortion opinion invalid.

That's pretty well established. No one but hardcore scientists actually publish evidence against their own theories. This is not hardcore science.
Again, this is most likely meant to illustrate a point, not act as a study of the entirety of anti-choice protesting.
Also take into account that the images of aborted fetuses on the posters of the protesters are also cherry-picked to evoke the most emotional reaction from its viewers. No one seems to find fault with that.

I was going to write a long rant (like I usually do when I have a strong opinion on some matter) but DerAlt said it for me.

The solution to the abortion issue? Be responsible. If you’re old enough to have sex, you’re old enough to know the consequences when you don’t take precautions.
Sex is really good, we all know that (and the period of excitement is so addictive some animals would rather finish coitus than escape a predator), but there are tons of ways you can prevent an unwanted pregnancy, and thus, not have to resort to dealing with the decision to have an abortion.

But I’m still pro-choice.

In response to the video: in countries where abortion is illegal and the law isn’t made by maniacs, the penalty is usually a few years in jail.

PS- Watch ‘Vera Drake’ for a peak on what some women have to go through and wonder if that’s ‘the easy way out’ for an unwanted pregnancy.

Sorry, my caps are just a way for me to emphasize a word. They were not meant as yelling, but more as italics. Sorry.

The problem is not that the protesters did not know the "exact" punishment they would levy against women who got illegal abortions. The problem is that they had not given any thought to the consequences of making abortion illegal. They just stand outside with their signs and grotesque pictures, parroting the same message.

It's all good, Josh. [i]words to emphasize[/i]

I could not have said it better myself.
Truth is, I just typed out a huge thing and went to quote something else and it got rid of what I already did.


JoshSF49, I never said that you being male made your point less valid. What I was saying was that it is easy for someone to tell someone what to do when they will never have to make the choice. You will never have to worry about 9 months of hell, labor pains, how your going to parent the child if your bf ever leaves.....

Like many things, that regret can work both ways.

A little historical perspective by this kind of protest would reveal this will never work.

Check out prohibition, drug laws etc. Abortions will still be performed only with much more risk to the women. An intelligent response to stopping abortion would be a strong realiatic effort to prevent/minimize pregnancies.

I love how people assume those of us who have had abortions live with some kind of life-long regret or guilt.
I have never regretted my decision, and I never will. I feel no guilt, nor do I get weepy or depressed when I see children... well, that's a lie. I cry when they seat them near me in a restaurant because I know my meal has just been ruined. :)

I love how you assume I'm talking about you. No, I said sometimes. And I know two women that applies to. I can imagine there's more. But no, I wasn't talking about you.

I know a woman from Ukraine who does not regret her 13 abortions. But I also wasn't talking about her.

I love how you assume I was referring to your post. I was actually referring to the twits in the video, and in general. Relax.

Me too. I assumed you'd love how I assumed.

Grrrr. youtube doesn;t work at my job.. what was the question? this sounds interesting..

Well pardon me. The purpose of the video must have gone completely over my head, then. Stupid me figured that if the makers of the video were actually interested in finding an answer to the question (or even adding something remotely helpful to the conversation), they would surely have done so.

Oh, and "anti-choice" is also called "pro-life". So by the same token, I guess "pro-choice" becomes "anti-life".

I'm tired of everyone trying to be pro something, is it not true that "pro-lifer" activist are against abortion. That's really the whole point of their movement.

The name pro-life seems kind of silly to me..... I mean I'm pro life as in I am in support of people living, and I would imagine most people are.

"if abortionb is made illegal, what should be the consequences." "what should happen to women who get abortions when it's made illegal"

Most answers were: "I don't know" and many said something along the lines of "Well I don't think they should be punished" (which is particularly intersting because they want to make it a law, but a law without consequences wtf?)

As has been stated, though; there were probably people interviewed who had answers to this question but weren't included in the video. I think reboot mentioned that one of the women referred to a man who would be able to answer the quesions better, but we never saw that man in the video.

The point of the video is valid, though. If you're going to ask for something to be declared illegal, you should have some idea of what the legal consequences should be for breaking the proposed law.