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But it took two years, a lawsuit alleging sex discrimination and a change in California law before he picked up his new drivers licence in the name of Michael Bijon on Monday.]]>

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http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q30« hmtksteve : What if his last name was "Arselicker" or something along those lines? Would he still be p-whipped for wanting to change it?Prince John: Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it?
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century.
Prince John: You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"?
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be "s**thouse."
Prince John: It's a good change. That's a good change!

(From Robin Hood: Men in Tights, of course.)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q29http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q28« bluenutria : Admit it, you're sexist.

But so am I. So are all men. But I'm trying to change the system.I'm only a little sexist. But at the same time I LIKE that men and women are different. Sure, they're equal, but they're still different.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q27« imnotyoo : How about just fairness, then?Fairness is cool. True equality means that all those things you don't want to do you now have to do 50% of the time.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q26« hmtksteve : In the imortal words of Heinlein, "why would any woman want to settle for equality?"How about just fairness, then?]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q25« bluenutria : Actually I am sexist, as I benefit from a system that favors men (and will always be until the system is truly equal). In the imortal words of Heinlein, "why would any woman want to settle for equality?"]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q24
Changing one's name for any reason is a certified pain in the tush. I should know because I just did it last year. It's probably not so bad for someone younger; but someone who has had time to get credit cards, a car, a house, a work history, etc. has a lot of work to do. Dealing with Social Security was such a headache that I'm surprised it doesn't help lower the divorce rate. Sometimes items have to be changed in a certain order, like driver's license before bank accounts. Many businesses will make the task fairly easy (almost too easy), but others make people jump through serious hoops. It was actually easier to close some accounts than to change the name.

I'm voting for "loving gesture, but not really thought through very well".]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q23« imnotyoo : Women are not property.

I am not Mrs. Zach Lastname.

Not everyone has a good family.

Tradition is pointless.

Men and women are equal.

The law is sexist.

There is no logical reason for a man to not be allowed to take his wife's last name.

I'm getting married in 17 days, and I'm not taking his last name. Assume the rest.You took the words out of my mouth.

It is a ridiculous double standard amongst genders. Men are whipped if they do something unpleasant or abnormal for their wives... but if a woman does it she is just being a good wife. It is a stupid and insulting standard.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q22« lynxears : Just because you're a man doesn't mean you're automatically sexist.
By trying to change the system, you are proving that.Actually I am sexist, as I benefit from a system that favors men (and will always be until the system is truly equal). So, all men are sexist. So too am I racist, as I'm white. But I try not to be discriminatory or act on prejudice. I try to level the playing field. I try to act in a way that runs contrary to the current sexist, racist, ageist, etc. system.

I am still complicit even though I am trying to change my attitudes and the system itself.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q21« bluenutria : Admit it, you're sexist.

But so am I. So are all men. But I'm trying to change the system.Just because you're a man doesn't mean you're automatically sexist.
By trying to change the system, you are proving that.

But if you are a man who can't *see* that these things are sexist, you are complicit.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q20« vexingmodstwo : sexist rantAdmit it, you're sexist.

But so am I. So are all men. But I'm trying to change the system.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q19http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q18« boredatwork :Well said!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q17
And kudo's to imnotyoo for both your post and your upcoming wedding!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q16« imnotyoo : Women are not property.

I am not Mrs. Zach Lastname.

Not everyone has a good family.

Tradition is pointless.

Men and women are equal.

The law is sexist.

There is no logical reason for a man to not be allowed to take his wife's last name.

Just so you know, I'm getting married in 17 days, and I'm not taking his last name. Assume the rest.If you look at any of my comments you'll note that at no point did I ever say ONCE that a woman should be required to take her husband's last name.

Oh, and Congratulations!]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q15
I am not Mrs. Zach Lastname.

Not everyone has a good family.

Tradition is pointless.

Men and women are equal.

The law is sexist.

There is no logical reason for a man to not be allowed to take his wife's last name.

I'm getting married in 17 days, and I'm not taking his last name. Assume the rest.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q14
But just so you know, f**k you.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q13
Now California (and then every other state) will have to revise all their applications, forms, records, etc to allow for men to choose to take the last name of their wives. How much money will be wasted on it? Think about all the forms and other documents that have been printed out that will be shredded and replaced with the new version...

Oh and another unintended consequence regarding forms and records: Now there needs to be a new field added for the husband's "maiden name"... but of course there will be the need for meetings to figure out the new term. A man isn't a "maiden". So "bachelor name"?

Millions of dollars thrown out the window because ONE guy clearly has a problem with his dad. Are you friggin kidding me?

There are certain societal norms that harm no one. This is one of them. Somewhere along the way this tool turned in his man card and I guarantee you that in about 5 years this chick is going to banging some other guy because her husband is a wuss.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q12
This guy is seriously p-whipped.


Too bad for him that now they're married, she'll stop putting out. (except for select holidays, birthdays, and their anniversary)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q11« gratheo : Um...can you say 'sweet and loving gesture to his wife'?I'm trying. It just won't come out right. Every time I try, it sounds like "whipped".]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q10« lynxears : Does that mean women are traditionally whipped, then?Nope.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q9« vexingmodstwo : Hmm... after careful consideration of your three comments...

I'm going with whipped.

;-)Does that mean women are traditionally whipped, then?]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q8
I kept my own until we had a child together, and then changed it to his, because I wanted us all to have a family name. I still actually hassle him to change it, or at least combine our two names and come up with a new one. And I flip flop on wanting to go back to my own name. I just can't get used to his...]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q7
I know some states allow you to take any name you wish when you get married.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q6
I'm going with whipped.

;-)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q5
(Yeah, I know people will read this and think I'm whipped too, but my opinion is that there is no good husband who people would not occasionally see as whipped. When it comes to husbands, people seem to lose the distinction between being thoughtful and being whipped.)]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q4« vexingmodstwo : Umm... can you say "p-whipped"?Um...can you say 'sweet and loving gesture to his wife'?]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q3« vexingmodstwo : Umm... can you say "p-whipped"?Nah, it wasn't about that. He was closer to her family and wanted to take her name. I think it's more a matter of him associating himself with her family more than being whipped. It's pretty cool actually - I've never heard of a man taking his wife's surname before.]]>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/60939/1/rss0_91.rss#q2