<rss version="0.91"><channel><title>Woman mistaken for man wins suit : RSS 0.91</title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/</link><description></description><language>en-us</language><item><title>Woman mistaken for man wins suit : RSS 0.91</title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/</link><description></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[Woman mistaken for man wins suit]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/</link><description><![CDATA[A woman kicked out of a women's toilet after a New York City restaurant mistook her for a man has settled her discrimination lawsuit for $US35,000 ($37,116).]]></description></item><table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' width='100%' style='padding-top:5px;margin-bottom:0px;' class='trh'><tr valign='bottom'><td><table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0'><tr valign='bottom'><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabs lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-comments'><a href='/plime-com/l/61734/1/' class='plime2 td mn'>comments (16)</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-related'><a href='/plime-com/l/61734-related/1/' class='plime td mn'>related</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-share'><a href='/plime-com/l/61734-share/1/' class='plime td mn'>share</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-history'><a href='/plime-com/l/61734-history/1/' class='plime td mn'>edit history (0)</a></td></tr></table></td><td class='minitabspc' style='width:100%' valign='middle'><table width='100%'><tr class='regular'><td align='right'> <a onclick='return false' class='page-dull td'>&lt;</a><span> <b><a class='page-selected td' href='/plime-com/l/61734/1/'>1</a></b> <a onclick='return false' class='page-dull td'>&gt;</a></span></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><item><title><![CDATA[cb__ @ 5/15/2008 12:52:54 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q17</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q15"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>nikneven</b>:screw that.<br/><br/>Nowhere in that article does it say she is transgender.  Nowhere.    you say she looks like a man, maybe she does, but i bet a lot of girls you know would look like men if they had short hair and no makeup.   So, do they all need to grow out long flowing locks and wear some lipstick just cause you don't think they look GIRLY enough???    <br/><br/>Yes, its a litigious society and yes that seems a little extreme, but really, money is the only way to get things to change.  She could have sued for millions and didn't.  Do you know how often people are assaulted because they don't conform to someones standards of what a girl or a guy SHOULD look like?  Money makes people pay attention. and attention on a subject can create change.</i></div>No one is saying she has to 'reek' of femininity..but when you <i>go out of your way</i> to look like a man, and do so so successfully, expect to be mistaken for one.<br/><br/><div style='display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;'><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21246685/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21246685/</a></div> <br/><i>&quot;Khadijah Farmer doesn&#8217;t wear makeup, has close-cut hair and wears men&#8217;s business clothing, so she understands when she is frequently mistaken for a man.&quot;</i><br/><br/>There is no specific mention of her being a transgender, no..but she was being represented by the Transgender Legal Defense &amp; Education Fund, so hmm..]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[bingo @ 5/14/2008 11:22:38 PM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q16</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q8"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>2manyusernames</b> :<br/><br/>He was not trying to protect the public. He was being a prejudiced a*****e. Yes, she looked like a man. All he had to do was look at her ID and all would have been okay. He didn't want to do that because he obviously has a thing against such women.</i></div>I don't agree. Look at the picture, she obviously WANTS to look like a man. WELL, it worked! And now she has the balls (sorry, couldn't help it) to get offended??!!<br/>BULLs**t! More likely she just saw a way to get a few bucks.<br/>Shame on HER, not him.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[nikneven @ 5/14/2008 10:02:42 PM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q15</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q13"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>BLANSETTBABE</b> : Wah wah wah!!! She wants to dress, and look like a man, but then gets all pissy when someone actually thinks she is one. Give me a break. This shouldn't have even been allowed to waste the court's time. And can someone please explain to me why a woman would want to be a lesbian and date another woman who looks like a man, why not just date an effeminent man? Doesn't add up to me.</i></div><div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q14"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>cb__</b> : No kidding!  I thought the same thing too.</i></div>screw that.<br/><br/>Nowhere in that article does it say she is transgender.  Nowhere.    you say she looks like a man, maybe she does, but i bet a lot of girls you know would look like men if they had short hair and no makeup.   So, do they all need to grow out long flowing locks and wear some lipstick just cause you don't think they look GIRLY enough???    <br/><br/>Yes, its a litigious society and yes that seems a little extreme, but really, money is the only way to get things to change.  She could have sued for millions and didn't.  Do you know how often people are assaulted because they don't conform to someones standards of what a girl or a guy SHOULD look like?  Money makes people pay attention. and attention on a subject can create change.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[cb__ @ 5/14/2008 6:00:20 PM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q14</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q13"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>BLANSETTBABE</b>&#160;:&#160;Wah wah wah!!! She wants to dress, and look like a man, but then gets all pissy when someone actually thinks she is one. Give me a break. This shouldn't have even been allowed to waste the court's time. </i></div>No kidding!  I thought the same thing too.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[BLANSETTBABE @ 5/14/2008 5:43:32 PM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q13</link><description><![CDATA[Wah wah wah!!! She wants to dress, and look like a man, but then gets all pissy when someone actually thinks she is one. Give me a break. This shouldn't have even been allowed to waste the court's time. And can someone please explain to me why a woman would want to be a lesbian and date another woman who looks like a man, why not just date an effeminent man? Doesn't add up to me.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[cb__ @ 5/14/2008 12:37:44 PM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q12</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q8"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>2manyusernames</b>:She filed 7 months ago, it just took that long for the suit to be resolved.<br/><br/>He was not trying to protect the public. He was being a prejudiced a*****e. Yes, she looked like a man. All he had to do was look at her ID and all would have been okay. He didn't want to do that because he obviously has a thing against such women.</i></div>On the surface (since I didn't read all the details in the original story), I find it hard to condemn the bouncer here, as producing an ID would appease only him..the women going in and out of that restroom would <i>still</i> view her as a man.  Is he supposed to stand there for the duration, telling everyone 'It's ok, she really is a female.'?  She'd be filing a lawsuit about that..<br/><br/>I <i>really</i> like MissWinkle's friend's approach.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fizz71 @ 5/14/2008 9:33:59 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q11</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q8"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>2manyusernames</b>:She filed 7 months ago, it just took that long for the suit to work its way.<br/><br/>He was not trying to protect the public. He was being a prejudiced a*****e. Yes, she looked like a man. All he had to do was look at her ID and all would have been okay. He didn't want to do that because he obviously has a thing against such women.</i></div>I don't think either of our arguments can be proven either way in a 100 word article, but I guess I just see more people making frivilous lawsuits more often than I see actual &quot;prejudice&quot; over a girl looking like a guy. Rude comments maybe, but not prejudice.  <br/><br/>A line like &quot;Ms Farmer said she volunteered to produce identification proving she was female but was rebuffed&quot; could have just been the guy saying..&quot;I don't want to see ID, just get out please&quot;.  Could have been other women in the restroom and he could have been nice as pie and just didn't want to get further involved.  Or...he could have been prejudice against lesbians, knew the gay pride parade was in town and was looking to piss one off.<br/><br/>It's New York so it definetely could have gone either way.  <br/><br/>I guess when I see something like this I give the guy being sued the benefit of the doubt..the whole &quot;until proven guilty&quot; thing...but businesses will never really fight for their empolyees, they'd rather just pay and make it go away hence all the lawsuits. :)<br/><br/>He could be a pr*ck..or she could be.  We won't know, but the media of course had to add &quot;after marching in the gay pride parade&quot; right up front to manipulate us into automatically turning on the prejudice thoughts.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[2manyusernames @ 5/14/2008 9:21:02 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q10</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q9"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>acemak</b> : But she looks like a dude.  there is a girl at my school that looks like a guy.  I said &quot;hey dude&quot; one day and she was deeply offended.  I didn't know she was a chick.  Should i be sued for sexual harassement and prejudice?</i></div>Obviously not. There is nothing wrong with mistaking someone for being a different gender, especially when they go out of their way to make themselves look like a different gender.<br/><br/>Again. The mistake the BOUNCER made - not the restaurant even though they have to pay - is the refusal to listen to her explanation that she wasn't a woman or to even look at her ID.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[acemak @ 5/14/2008 9:18:02 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q9</link><description><![CDATA[But she looks like a dude.  there is a girl at my school that looks like a guy.  I said &quot;hey dude&quot; one day and she was deeply offended.  I didn't know she was a chick.  Should i be sued for sexual harassement and prejudice?]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[2manyusernames @ 5/14/2008 9:07:17 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q8</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q6"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>Fizz71</b> : The guy thought he was protecting the public, not discriminating. Short of a d**k check what the hell else can you do?  <br/><br/>7 months to file?  Looks like she is just looking to cash in on somebody elses mistake.</i></div>She filed 7 months ago, it just took that long for the suit to be resolved.<br/><br/>He was not trying to protect the public. He was being a prejudiced a*****e. Yes, she looked like a man. All he had to do was look at her ID and all would have been okay. He didn't want to do that because he obviously has a thing against such women.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[tragluk @ 5/14/2008 8:40:15 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q7</link><description><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/plime-com/l/61734/1/#q2"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>kidsizedcoffin</b> : $37k for trying to protect customers in an unmonitored space, sounds reasonable.  The bouncer probably should have let &quot;her&quot; show identification however.</i></div>You're being sarcastic right?<br/><br/>Thirty Seven Thousand Dollars because she got kicke dout of a restaurant?  It's not like she was beat up, or 'psychologically damaged', the net loss was something akin to &quot;Gee, I need to get something else to eat tonight and I still have to go pee.&quot;<br/><br/>Ok, so she was angry.  Understandable.  Now she can take her 'I was angry' money and buy a new SUV with it.<br/><br/>How exactly is this Justice?<br/><br/>The restaurant should have to make a public apology, and give her and her group a free dinner.  PERIOD.  They made an honest mistake, and should have to own up to it.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fizz71 @ 5/14/2008 8:30:46 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q6</link><description><![CDATA[The guy thought he was protecting the public, not discriminating. Short of a d**k check what the hell else can you do?  <br/><br/>7 months to file?  Looks like she is just looking to cash in on somebody elses mistake.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[MissWinkle @ 5/14/2008 8:13:51 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q5</link><description><![CDATA[I have a friend (a female) who looks just like a guy (on purpose). She uses the men's bathroom so people don't freak out.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[2manyusernames @ 5/14/2008 8:01:51 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q4</link><description><![CDATA[good for her. Personally I'd think the bouncer should have to pay, not the restaurant, but I know that will never happen.<br/><br/><br/><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://www.plime.com/law/l/37924/1/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a> is earlier article when she first filed the lawsuit, <b>7 months ago</b>. That is a long time to wait.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[drogue @ 5/14/2008 6:02:33 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q3</link><description><![CDATA[I once mistook a very obese man for a woman at a bowling-alley men's restroom, probably because of his muumuu.  I ran in, not wanting to miss my frame, saw him, and went &quot;Sh*t,am I in the wrong room?!&quot;<br/><br/>Then I saw the urinals, and things got very awkward there for a bit.]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[kidsizedcoffin @ 5/14/2008 5:39:07 AM]]></title><link>http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/61734/1/rss0_91.rss#q2</link><description><![CDATA[$37k for trying to protect customers in an unmonitored space, sounds reasonable.  The bouncer probably should have let &quot;her&quot; show identification however.]]></description></item></channel></rss>