U.S. paper money discriminates against the blind
U.S. paper money discriminates against the blind
A federal appeals court today upheld a 2006 ruling that U.S. paper money discriminates against the blind. The decision may force the Treasury Department to redesign the currency, which might result in bills that are different sizes or embossed with raised markings. picked by lpoindexter 3 months ago
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 gammerus
3 months ago
Discriminate is such a strong word, and I don't think it necessarily applies here, but this is a good idea.
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 Ross
3 months ago
Canadian bills already have it!
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 tvirus
3 months ago
Let's give each denomination a different scent.
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 gratheo
3 months ago
Indonesian bills have this too... the bigger the note, the higher the value.
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
oh for f#$k's sake...
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 theshirt...
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : oh for f#$k's sake...
This is actually pretty legitimate. Of course, it would have been entirely too easy to incorporate braille into the new hideous bills that they have started putting out.
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
Check Cards.

Problem solved.

Hell, providing Check Cards for the blind will cost exponentially less than redesigning, reprinting, and uncirculating current bills.

Not to mention all the vending machines and other machines that accept bills that will need to be refitted.
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 gammerus
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : Check Cards.

Problem solved.

Hell, providing Check Cards for the blind will cost exponentially less than redesigning, reprinting, and uncirculating current bills.

Not to mention all the vending machines and other machines that accept bills that will need to be refitted.
.That is a poor excuse to screw over the blind.
And what about all of the businesses that only accept cash?
Progress is fine and dandy so long as there is no paperwork involved..
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
« gammerus : Yes, because it was so hard to refit them for all the other nonsense bills that are created every other year.That is a poor excuse to screw over the blind.
And what about all of the businesses that only accept cash?
Progress is fine and dandy so long as there is no paperwork involved..
Screw over the blind?

Really?
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 JoshSF49
3 months ago
I'm nearly positive that this won't get through.

Why? There's a difference between de facto discrimination and de jure discrimination.

De jure discrimination is discrimination that occurs because of a law written specifically with an intent to discriminate. See Brown v. Board of Education

De facto discrimination is discrimination that occurs accidentally, and it isn't true discrimination. This is one of those cases that is de facto discrimination in that the money wasn't created to discriminate, but because of the money the way it is, discrimination has occurred.
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 gammerus
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : Screw over the blind?

Really?
Yes, when you cannot see your change you cannot tell who is cheating you, and if you use the bus or various other systems you most likely use cash. and to ignore that need because it might cause some paperwork is selfish at best.
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 lilyang
3 months ago
I don't see this as that big of an issue if transitions are done over a term. As one reader stated, it's already done in other countries with little problem. The US recirculates money every few years anyway and has people whose job it is to design money mainly to beat counterfeiters. I doubt it would be that hard or costly to do since we already have the tools in place. And I'm quite sure vendors will do what they have to to refit machines to get they money on, yo. But there does have to be a transitional period given. So, the US could plan to have everything amenable to the blind in 5 years or 10 years to minimize disruption.
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 gammerus
3 months ago
« lilyang : I don't see this as that big of an issue if transitions are done over a term. As one reader stated, it's already done in other countries with little problem. The US recirculates money every few years anyway and has people whose job it is to design money mainly to beat counterfeiters. I doubt it would be that hard or costly to do since we already have the tools in place. And I'm quite sure vendors will do what they have to to refit machines to get they money on, yo. But there does have to be a transitional period given. So, the US could plan to have everything amenable to the blind in 5 years or 10 years to minimize disruption.
That is the only way it could be done. It probably wouldn't take more than 10 or so years to fully incorporate it.
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 Fizz71
3 months ago
Yeah...and making money different sizes discrimiates against us anal retentatize obsessive compulsive people who want the money in their wallet lined up and straight.

Brail wouldn't bother me. :)
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 PulsisX
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : Check Cards.

Problem solved.

Hell, providing Check Cards for the blind will cost exponentially less than redesigning, reprinting, and uncirculating current bills.

Not to mention all the vending machines and other machines that accept bills that will need to be refitted.
I don't know why you got downvoted for this. Check cards would make a lot of cents.

I would like to point out a flaw in your argument though. How would a blind person use a vending machine? If you can't see what you are choosing how can you pick? Wouldn't they all be surprise dispensing boxes? "I got a drink! IT'S DR. PEPPER!!"

I know blind people and this has been an issue with most of them. I think that the check card would be a good fix for most instances but there are places where you need cash. Like buying drugs or playing poker.

(That is my subtle humor placing a nice hole in my own argument please don't bother to explain to me that blind people don't play poker)
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
« PulsisX : I don't know why you got downvoted for this. Check cards would make a lot of cents.

I would like to point out a flaw in your argument though. How would a blind person use a vending machine? If you can't see what you are choosing how can you pick? Wouldn't they all be surprise dispensing boxes? "I got a drink! IT'S DR. PEPPER!!"

I know blind people and this has been an issue with most of them. I think that the check card would be a good fix for most instances but there are places where you need cash. Like buying drugs or playing poker.

(That is my subtle humor placing a nice hole in my own argument please don't bother to explain to me that blind people don't play poker)
Good point on the vending machines. But you see, they would have to retrofit the vending machines anyway because the currency would be different. Even if blind people can't use the vending machines.
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 beckinac...
3 months ago
Canada has had braille on its paper currency for years. Get with the times, neighbours! lol
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 digitalg...
3 months ago
stamp em with some braille... not hard, guys
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 anjanett...
3 months ago
I just have to comment on this one.....my grandfather was blind, he became blind later in life....he could tell the difference between the denominations of the bills.
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 ZebraHDH
3 months ago
The bad news is that the newly printed bills will be cost 340% more money to make than the face value of the bill.
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