Queen of Hawaii demands independence from 'US occupiers'
Queen of Hawaii demands independence from 'US occupiers'
The United States is an illegal occupying force that should hand the 132 islands of Hawaii back to the monarchy overthrown more than a century ago, according to members of a Native Hawaiian sovereignty movement. picked by doggylives 3 months ago
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 Fizz71
3 months ago
« chinook : I'm sorry, but I'm down voting that comment for being very distasteful.
Ok...you win...I removed it...it was a little overboard...but the whole thing IS ridiculuos and it WOULD hold the same "merit" if the American Indians tried the same lawsuit. The difference is that they have molded partially into our society and I would hope realize that there is no possibility off going back. So other then the money they are asking for, it is pointless.
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 roarkmei...
3 months ago
As long as I can go there whenever I please, and we get to keep pearl harbor, then I don't see why they can't have their independence. Other than the fact that no one even cares they exist.
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 tundramo...
3 months ago
« xiatethebish : They were doing absolutely fine as a small country, beforehand.
Thriving, even.
I don't see why they can't go back to that.
They can't go back to the way they were beforehand; too much has changed. Let's be honest: none of us can go back to "the way things were" now.

This doesn't mean I don't support Hawaiian independence, it just means that I think it would have to be achieved and maintained in a different manner than in the past.
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 BLANSETT...
3 months ago
If the US does let them secede, we better pick up Puerto Rico or our flag will be totally f***ed.
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
« hmtksteve : Why am I reminded of the "What has Rome ever done for us?" bit from the Monty Python movie Life of Brian?

Hawaii has just one important use for the USA; Pearl Harbor. It is a strategic need and that is all.
... and Lost is filmed there.
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
« xiatethebish : They were doing absolutely fine as a small country, beforehand.
Thriving, even.
I don't see why they can't go back to that.
Because they're a state now. You can't just let States secede from the Union.
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 tubs
3 months ago
« xiatethebish : They were doing absolutely fine as a small country, beforehand.
Thriving, even.
I don't see why they can't go back to that.
Its not the same country as it once was. You don't see the problem in leaving cities, cars, ports, etc, to a few people?
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 Killerbe...
3 months ago
« hmtksteve : Hawaii has just one important use for the USA; Pearl Harbor. It is a strategic need and that is all.
Well if that's the ONLY need then I'm sure the imperial forces of the red white and blue can work out a deal to keep their precious base just like they have bases in other countries as well.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!! :D
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 mewhiten...
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : Because they're a state now. You can't just let States secede from the Union.
Why not?
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 vexingmo...
3 months ago
« mewhitenoise : Why not?
Wait... you pro-secession guys here are kidding, right?
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 bingo
3 months ago
« xiatethebish : They were doing absolutely fine as a small country, beforehand.
Thriving, even.
I don't see why they can't go back to that.
In a perfect world, yes. But they are not the same Hawaii they were then. I'm not sure they could support themselves now. They would have to import almost everything from foreign countries.

Chinook, yes I am American.
I remember learning the hula and how to pronounce King Kamahamaha's name in school,. but not much else.
I think the US will ignore it until it goes away, the same as when Texas wanted to be it's own country, or Washington state wants to split into 2 states.
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 mewhiten...
3 months ago
« vexingmodstwo : Wait... you pro-secession guys here are kidding, right?
No way, If I could make Pennsylvania secede from the union I would do it right now, but Hawaii makes a bit more sense then Pennsy
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