Man Sues Bible Publisher For Making People Think Homosexuality Is A Sin
Man Sues Bible Publisher For Making People Think Homosexuality Is A Sin
Bradley Fowler, a homosexual author from Michigan, has sued Zondervan publishing for $50 million and Thomas Nelson Publishing for $10 million. He argues that versions of their Bibles that call homosexuality a sin violate his constitutional rights and caused him emotional pain and instability. picked by bernardblack 3 months ago
tags homosexual gay sin bible fowler zondervan
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 KeroBero...
3 months ago
Ok... This kind of idiocy gets no symphaty from me. I never claimed to be a bible scholar, but I have read it and maybe, just maybe in the sections of the old testament, a person 'could' read 'homosexuality is a sin' in the passages about Sodom and Ghomorra.

HOWEVER, there is nothing in the bible, the original text that I read, that clearly says that Homosexuality is a sin.

Aside from that point; If the text caused him so much pain and instability, why the f**k is he reading it? I'll tell you why...

GREED.

Now if he can provide proof in the form of a PAGE FROM SAID BIBLE, then maybe MAYBE he has a case. I am an atheist and I approve this message.
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 bernardb...
3 months ago
^^ yes, but just think if he wins, those of us who engage in other sins such as drinking, premarital sex, and the like can look to cash in as well!
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 arsphidi...
3 months ago
I was raised Catholic, so I feel tremendous amounts of guilt over my sins. Where do I sign for my $50 million?
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 bernardb...
3 months ago
« arsphidius : I was raised Catholic, so I feel tremendous amounts of guilt over my sins. Where do I sign for my $50 million?
Wait a minute, I just thought of something. Another angle to make more money...

Not only do we feel guilt, not only do others look down on us but the only reason we sinned in the first place is because it was forbidden.

We all know the forbidden fruit is the sweetest. We all want what we can't have. By telling us that we can't engage in certain sins, that only made us want to sin. Therefor our sinful behavior is due to Christianity.

So it only stands to reason that not only do we get to sue for money because our "constitutional right not to be feel guilty" was violated, but all the effects of our sins must be paid for by the church. Child rearing, drug habit expense, drug rehab, etc, etc
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 Moogle
3 months ago
I'm not condoning the "sue and sue alike" attitude that has been so prevalent in the past few decades, but I can certainly fathom a bible being published on a skew. Even if he has a case though, why would he read something that disturbs him so?
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 Maven
3 months ago
What constitutional right was violated? There's nothing in the constitution ensuring you won't be offended by a religious text.

"flabbergasted to find out this Christian publisher [Thomas Nelson] had imposed its own opinions upon religious sectors, by fraudulently implementing the terminology -homosexual- to its Bible; then removed the term from its 1994 Holy Bible—without informing the general public."
Yeah, THAT'S never happened before.
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 rdg69
3 months ago
The news depresses me, can I sue the news stations?
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 ReBoot
3 months ago
In other news, the First Amendment has now been deemed both politically incorrect and completely antiquated.


This post looks like a prime candidate for the "Braindead" category.
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 T1000
3 months ago
« KeroBeros32:

HOWEVER, there is nothing in the bible, the original text that I read, that clearly says that Homosexuality is a sin.
What about these? Both New Testament.

We know that the law is good when used correctly. For the law was not intended for people who do what is right. It is for people who are lawless and rebellious, who are ungodly and sinful, who consider nothing sacred and defile what is holy, who kill their father or mother or commit other murders. The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching 11 that comes from the glorious Good News entrusted to me by our blessed God.

1 Timothy 1:8-11 NLT

Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NLT

These verses weren't written specifically to point out homosexuality as sin, but more to point out that any sort of sin is worthy of death (that's why Jesus died on the cross). Still though...
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 lostsoul...
3 months ago
Thank goodness! There is so much homophobia in the towns I've lived in because of the bible. When I was in grade 9 I did an oral presentation on equal rights, and one of my classmates brought in a bible, and told me why I would be going to Hell for condoning this behaviour.
Although I do think that this is a bit extreme, I'm glad someone is standing up for what they believe in, in a way that cannot help getting noticed.
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 Vertex
3 months ago
The passage that he's suing over is Corinthians 6:9, which is somewhat ambiguous in the original Greek and has been translated in many different ways.


But even if we disregard that passage, I think God's feelings on homosexuality are made clear in Romans 1:18-32 and the passages posted by T1000


This lawsuit is stupid.
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 jestor
3 months ago
Sadly, people are free to live in whichever of the multitude of available sins they choose...

...As long as they are willing to pay the eventual consequences.



"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life."

--Galatians 6:7-8

That poor, sad man is raging against the very thing intended to save him from himself, out of what motives only he knows. Ah, well.
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 theshirt...
3 months ago
I really that the bible does indeed pronounce homosexuality as sin. I don't think Zondervan or any other translating company is to blame.

That being said homosexuality is NO WORSE than any other sin and the gay community should not be smacked around like they are the epitome of evil. There are just as many believing families that indulge in "mild" sins that are just as bad and they aren't picked on. I think it is utterly deplorable and shameful that Christians think it's the worst thing imaginable that a child be brought up in a gay home when many (if not a majority) of gays and lesbians would make vastly better parents than some heterosexual counterparts.

You bash gays and you are just as guilty of sin as anyone else.
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 Moe
3 months ago
ALL have fallen short of the Kingdom of God. That is what the Bible teaches. And it also teaches that through the blood of Jesus we can be forgiven of our sins. Be they murder, lies, stealing, whatever. I wish that idiots like this would read the Bible and focus on THAT part rather than getting "offended" enough to sue. What a moron.
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 KeroBero...
3 months ago
« T1000 : What about these? Both New Testament.

We know that the law is good when used correctly. For the law was not intended for people who do what is right. It is for people who are lawless and rebellious, who are ungodly and sinful, who consider nothing sacred and defile what is holy, who kill their father or mother or commit other murders. The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching 11 that comes from the glorious Good News entrusted to me by our blessed God.

1 Timothy 1:8-11 NLT

Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NLT

These verses weren't written specifically to point out homosexuality as sin, but more to point out that any sort of sin is worthy of death (that's why Jesus died on the cross). Still though...
Do you know what I meant to say by ORIGINAL TEXT? O_o...

That's right, the original OLD TESTAMENT in HEBREW and NEW TESTAMENT in ANCIENT GREEK!

None of the King James/Jesus of Later Day Saints/Protestant/Christian BOOK that is in circulation today and fanatics thump in this day and age. These texts that are so loosely translated that any, and I mean ANY fanatic can interpret any way they see fit and send anyone to a fictional hell for not following a fictional book.

Greed... Plain and simple...
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 T1000
3 months ago
« KeroBeros32 : Do you know what I meant to say by ORIGINAL TEXT? O_o...

That's right, the original OLD TESTAMENT in HEBREW and NEW TESTAMENT in ANCIENT GREEK!

None of the King James/Jesus of Later Day Saints/Protestant/Christian BOOK that is in circulation today and fanatics thump in this day and age. These texts that are so loosely translated that any, and I mean ANY fanatic can interpret any way they see fit and send anyone to a fictional hell for not following a fictional book.

Greed... Plain and simple...
So you don't trust ANY of the English translations today? Would you trust a straight word by word translation rather than one that is translated to portray the author's assumed meaning?
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 T1000
3 months ago
« theshirtpocket:I really that the bible does indeed pronounce homosexuality as sin. I don't think Zondervan or any other translating company is to blame.

That being said homosexuality is NO WORSE than any other sin and the gay community should not be smacked around like they are the epitome of evil. There are just as many believing families that indulge in "mild" sins that are just as bad and they aren't picked on. I think it is utterly deplorable and shameful that Christians think it's the worst thing imaginable that a child be brought up in a gay home when many (if not a majority) of gays and lesbians would make vastly better parents than some heterosexual counterparts.

You bash gays and you are just as guilty of sin as anyone else.
Hear hear. Even if the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin, that gives no man the right to treat badly or ostracize those who may be homosexual.

Remember the adultress...

“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.

When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”

“No, Lord,” she said.

And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”

John 8:4-11 NLT

BTW, no one knows what Jesus was writing in the sand. Some people like to think He was writing the accusers sins haha...
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 ImNotBlu...
3 months ago
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There is no law that says ANY BOOK, ANY MOVIE, or otherwise CAN'T spread hate speech! And while we can argue what the bible actually says... IT DOESN'T MATTER! The publisher has the freedom to publish whatever he wants!

I don't know who this guy thinks he is, who is lawyer thinks he/she is, or what they hope to gain... but if there is justice, this guy will be proven a fool, and the lawyer will be disbarred for not understanding fundamental constitutional law.
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 KeroBero...
3 months ago
« T1000 : So you don't trust ANY of the English translations today? Would you trust a straight word by word translation rather than one that is translated to portray the author's assumed meaning?
<--- ATHEIST?
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 T1000
3 months ago
« KeroBeros32 : <--- ATHEIST?
Alright, well then why do you care at all about Biblical translation? It is apparent that you have some opinion on it.

From your above statement, it seems that you might think that the original Greek would be something worth believing, but not English, but then you say you don't care at all?

Which is it?
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