Now see, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Sure, if all prostitution really was just about freely willing adults wanting to get it on, that would be one thing and I would agree that it was rooted in prudishness.

But prostitutes (with the rare exceptions of legal brothels) are frequently forced into it and don't see the profits. It becomes someone else selling their body, using them up and convincing them they are worthless as humans, except as depositories for some other human's semen. And that's wrong. As is the rape, drug addiction (forced on them or tricked into it), human trafficking, etc. that goes with it. And society is wrong to approve the selling of a woman's body (not just in prostitution, but in a cultural concept).

I would have to agree with Mersh and say that while I am disgusted by bestiality I cannot think of anything that makes it wrong to do.

well now it makes sense.. I'd press charges if I was forced to hump her as well.. might actually prefer the dog.. :-/

That's what I meant by that statement. It would have to be some severe emotional scarring to warrant any kind of legal action.

Taunting/trying to make someone feel bad = No legal action.

Rape = Legal action.

And you need to attempt to include at least some kind of rationality or logic in your arguments if you think you're ever going to get someone to see where you're coming from.

This may sound strange, and I'm just riffing here, but maybe it has something to do with the kind of sex they're having. On the one hand, penetration seems like it's going to harm the animal and therefore would be cruel. Other acts might not be so invasive, so it would be only a matter of degree mentally for a dog from petting or rough housing.

Of course, society has a democratic right to impose certain values, I feel, and so I think it's still correct for them to outlaw whatever they wish. But then again, just let them try and enforce it. This person found out that they can enforce it......WHEN YOU MAKE 150 TAPES OF YOURSELF HAVING SEX WITH A DOG!

Everyone has an uggo once. That's not a crime. I dated one when I was 15. :D

Then make that illegal. Have some kind of system set up to make sure that the person is willing. That same system could also determine if the person has any STDs.

The selling of anyone's body is only wrong if the that person does not agree with the selling. I challenge you to give me one logical reason that a person should not be able to do whatever they please with their body as long as it is not harming someone else.

Here's your rationality:

It's a DOG. Wait, no.. TWO DOGS.

I normally agree with you on stuff vex, but it annoys me when people say things like this. Why does mersh have to "re-evaluate his priorities"?

Just because you personally don't agree with it doesn't mean that someone who has a differing opinion has to "rethink" theirs.

Do I have sex with animals? Not much, errrrr, I mean, no.

Do I think animal abuse is wrong? Yes.

Do I find the idea of sex with an animal a turn on? No

But I don't think I'd judge someone adversely who did.

Child abuse leaves kids with emotional scars and often leads to severe depression and suicide. A "victimless" crime? No, most definitely not, which is why it's such a deplorable act. But I don't seriously think for one moment that having sex with an animal that isn't being forced or harmed in any way is going to affect the animal adversely, so I don't see the huge problem with it personally.

No, that's not rationality because you aren't directly addressing the issue. Exactly what about having sex with an animal other than humans is criminal? Who are they hurting? We can't determine for sure that they're hurting the animal, so that's thrown out the window. Of course, studies could be done into the subject, and if the act is indeed hurting the animal, it should be outlawed, but I bet you wouldn't be willing to let any organization to do any studies anyway. No one should be criminalized unless it is certain that they are doing something wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.

Not saying anything about anything as far as my personal beliefs on the matter...

(as personally, I'm a cat lover (not that kind..geeze!)

But between dog fighting and dog f**king...I guess I'd rather imagine the latter is more enjoyable for everyone involved.

Wait... I'm not arguing in favor of animal rights here, btw.

I'm just saying that there has to be a line drawn somewhere when it comes to things like having sex with, you know.... non-humans?

This moral relativism is out of control.

The problem is that you aren't distinguishing between 'wrong' and 'prisonworthy'. No one here is suggesting that it isn't disgusting, and I wouldn't blame anyone if they were shunned by the community, but you need to make a case as to why this deserves a prison term.

I'm guessing they did it Doggy style?

The problem is that there are people apparently ok with other people f**king dogs.

Call me old-fashioned.

old fashioned! , lol.. come on.. how do you think the first interacial couple felt?? times are changing get with the program

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You are doing an absolutely stunning job of avoiding the actual question.

Edit: Why is there downvoting going on? Nothing thus far has been inflammatory.

And obviously the people who are "ok" with it, ie; aren't hysterical and outraged with it, are somehow wrong because you don't agree?

For some reason I'm thinking back to the days when homosexuality was illegal as well...

Alright, for the sake of debate, a premise: A 13-year-old girl has been having sex with her stepfather, who is 50. She swears up and down, left and right it was consensual. That she loves him and he loves her and it's all kosher.

Except it's not. Under the law, their relationship is wrong. She cannot give consent to sex. And society at large will say it is also wrong because there is probably some level of coercion; the older man should have known better and should have stopped the relationship.

And if I don't answer anything for a while, it's because I'm at work and can't respond. But I'm probably plurking.