Dogs Seized From Va. Puppy Mill Posted: 10 months ago by dollyllama
Nearly 1,000 dogs were seized by Animal Control officers in Hillsville, Va., after they raided an alleged puppy mill last week.
*1,000 puppies!!!
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Posted: 10 months ago by mandolinorange:
sadly, many of these dogs will be euthanized because there just aren't enough homes or space for all of them. what's really sad is that most of the ones eauthanized will be the dogs who've spent all their lives giving birth to litter after litter, because most people don't want to adopt an old dog that may not be as pretty and healthy as it should be.
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Posted: 10 months ago by dollyllama:
It's heartbreaking :(
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Posted: 10 months ago by sykeo56:
Lets try to look past the sadness for a minute and think about the cute factor. Can you imagine how cute it would be to see 1080 little puppies frolicking in one room together!?
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Posted: 10 months ago by Heymrp:
« sykeo56 : Lets try to look past the sadness for a minute and think about the cute factor. Can you imagine how cute it would be to see 1080 little puppies frolicking in one room together!? Cute!
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Posted: 10 months ago by tragluk:
The reason why it was illegal is because he only had a license to breed 500 at a time and he had 1000. Is it really worse to have 1000 puppies than to have 500? As much as I want to say this is a bad person, obviously if his business was thriving (to have a demand for 1000's of puppies) he was filling a need.
As much as critics want to point out that Puppy Mills create a situation where the dogs are uncared for and overbred I don't see a business owner not vaccinating his puppies before sending them out in 100% quality to PetCo.
No, he doesn't love them, but these puppies WILL get love when they find a home.
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Posted: 10 months ago by TraumaMamma:
« sykeo56 : Lets try to look past the sadness for a minute and think about the cute factor. Can you imagine how cute it would be to see 1080 little puppies frolicking in one room together!? Sorry to be the killjoy, sykeo, I love ya...but...
There should never be 1080 puppies in the same room, ever.
As a responsible pet owner and future breeder this kind of stuff really gets my hackles up.
The puppy mills are only part of the problem, however. It's all suppy and demand. As long as people are foolish enough to buy from such a place and not do their homework and even pay 1500 for a mutt (puggle, goldendoodle etc) then puppy mills will continue to exist.
There are other horrors as well. People breed dogs for entirely different reasons. I watched this special, it was heartbreaking.
Dealing Dogs
Great find, Dolly. xoxoo
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Posted: 10 months ago by TraumaMamma:
« tragluk :
As much as critics want to point out that Puppy Mills create a situation where the dogs are uncared for and overbred I don't see a business owner not vaccinating his puppies before sending them out in 100% quality to PetCo.
No, he doesn't love them, but these puppies WILL get love when they find a home. Are you serious!???!?!
You "don't see a business owner not vaccinating" but have you researched? Or do you just believe that everyone always does what is right? Cause the world doesn't operate that way.
You can start here and google petco lawsuits ad nauseum/
Petco
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Posted: 10 months ago by mandolinorange:
« tragluk:The reason why it was illegal is because he only had a license to breed 500 at a time and he had 1000. Is it really worse to have 1000 puppies than to have 500? As much as I want to say this is a bad person, obviously if his business was thriving (to have a demand for 1000's of puppies) he was filling a need.
As much as critics want to point out that Puppy Mills create a situation where the dogs are uncared for and overbred I don't see a business owner not vaccinating his puppies before sending them out in 100% quality to PetCo.
No, he doesn't love them, but these puppies WILL get love when they find a home. Actually the majority of puppy mill puppies most likely WILL NOT get love. They will eventually end up in shelters and be euthanized, or end up in a home that neglects and/or abuses them. And even if every puppy that came out of a puppy mill did receive a loving home, puppy mills don't just have puppies. They have adult dogs, which are overbred and abused and/or neglected and will never have a chance at a normal life. they spend their entire lives in tiny cages, never receive human affection, proper medical attention, or even have their basic needs met. most of them have probably never heard a kind word from a human or even played with a toy. this is their life until they are no longer capable of producing puppies, at which point they are simply disposed of in whatever way is most convenient for the owner. i dare you to do some research and find out exactly what puppy mills are and how they operate, clearly you have no idea.
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Posted: 10 months ago by tragluk:
« TraumaMamma : Are you serious!???!?!
You "don't see a business owner not vaccinating" but have you researched? Or do you just believe that everyone always does what is right? Cause the world doesn't operate that way. No, the world doesn't operate that way, but business does.
Send out a bad batch of apples once, it might be overlooked.. with a refund to the company you sent them to. Send out a bad batch twice, or send 500-1000 bad apples out and they're gonna drop you and find a reputable supplier.
You're talkin about PetCo San Francisco which is the end sales, that's different than manufacture. It's also not PetCo USA or any of the hundreds of thousands of PetCo's which DO treat their animals properly. McDonalds sold coffee which was too hot once, does that mean you will never go to a McDonalds and order coffee again? Or that EVERY McDonalds worldwide is burning their customers? And although I don't really like the idea of Puppy Manufacture I really don't know what kind of quality those puppies were kept in.
From the article...
"Officials said Horton’s license only allowed him to keep 500 animals."
"According to the Humane Society, a puppy mill is a breeding facility that produces large quantities of puppies.
Critics of puppy mills say the animals are overbred, with minimal veterinary care."
Now, nobody said THIS puppy mill had minimal veterinary care. No officials said there was mistreatment, or that they were only in one room.
Actually, he hasn't been charged for mistreatment yet so we don't know that this is part of the problem.
The facts of the case are this..
He had a license to breed 500.
He had 1000.
Critics don't like puppy mills.
Since he had too many, they will look at getting rid of the excess via adoption.
That's it!
By putting the idea that he had mistreated his animals without any facts to support the claim the report is VERY close to Libel. You can't say "Julia Roberts found on Beach" then go off talking about how many times people were raped on beaches. It draws conclusions which aren't true. Just how this article starts with "Man had too many puppies" and goes off talkin about how many mills mistreat and abuse animals.
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Posted: 10 months ago by mandolinorange:
« tragluk:
By putting the idea that he had mistreated his animals without any facts to support the claim the report is VERY close to Libel. You can't say "Julia Roberts found on Beach" then go off talking about how many times people were raped on beaches. It draws conclusions which aren't true. Just how this article starts with "Man had too many puppies" and goes off talkin about how many mills mistreat and abuse animals. actually, the following statement was what i was going off about...
« tragluk :
"No, he doesn't love them, but these puppies WILL get love when they find a home."
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Posted: 10 months ago by TraumaMamma:
« tragluk
No, he doesn't love them, but these puppies WILL get love when they find a home. You're sure, are you? With shelters and pounds overflowing with animals, that all will be happy and have wonderful full lives?
Going prices per breed
For my breed alone, look at how many people paid big bucks (1500-2500 to be exact) for this kind of dog and cannot handle them. They are strong willed and stubborn.
Bull Terrier rescue
Temperament and the soundness of the dog's body are equally important. A product of a puppy mill will not be socialized sufficiently, and may have medical problems. People who run puppy mills do not care about the breed of dog and the soundness of the genetics involved.
They care for the money only. A breeder will let you see the mother and father, they will certify the dog for soundness of health. A professional breeder will be associated with area clubs, who the potential new owner can contact for references.
And a professional breeder will have a contract with you, that if there are problems, the breeder can and will take the dog back.
Temperament is hereditary, and should be a source of concern for any owner and/or breeder. When a bad tempered dog is bred to a bad tempered female, the pups will be bad tempered.
Unfortunately, good pups, if placed in a problematic family situation, can also develop temperament problems. So temperament in any dog can be genetic or it can be environmental.
All puppies look cute, but one must be educated as to the traits of each breed as compared with the family and its lifestyle for a good fit.
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Posted: 10 months ago by Rowangrey:
« tragluk : Bunch of stuff I won't quote verbatim... Ugh. ANYONE producing puppies in the 1000's IS OPERATING A PUPPY MILL. Unless the owner was unbelievabley wealthy and pouring endless heaps of cash into his business, these animals were NOT getting veterinary care, nor were the puppies getting vaccines before they went to the pet store.
I see puppies every week who come from breeders; some from large puppy mills, some from credible hand-nurturing breeders. Hardly ANY of them come with more than a single DHPP vaccine and one deworming.
Dress it up all you like in legalese and "buts", it doesn't change the facts. If you are operating a decent, fully responsible breeding facility, you will NOT make money.
Puppies created from indescriminate, puppy mill situations may not have immediate health problems yet may develop genetic disorders years from their adoption dates. PetCo does not care what happens to your dog after the "warranty" expires.
Defend this mill all you like... it is what it is.
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