Obama- clinton : RSS 2.0http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/low.mtmen-usplime.com2008, plime.com.Plime/1http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rssObama- clinton : RSS 2.0http://www.plime.com/images/logo.gifhttp://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/low.mtm<![CDATA[dollyllama @ 3/11/2008 10:06:00 PM]]>
If a contractor came into your house to redo your kitchen would you want him to design what he wanted or what you wanted? Would you want him to say "f**k the budget, this is what is best for you".

This is not a new kitchen installation. This is what we will leave our descendants, our offspring. This is what we will have to live with for 4 years (minimum).

Remember too that whoever we elect this term cannot undo the damage of the previous 7 (ultimately 8) years. Change will not actually happen anytime soon, it won't no matter what your candidate tells you. We will be suffering our inaction for some time.

I blame us. I blame the US citizens. Yeah, I signed petitions, I wrote my congressman, I protested. I was a voice among thousands. I should have been a voice among 300 million. Did I do enough, apparently not. I didn't inspire my friends to fight, they were too worried about their job or their mortgage or their medical bills, who can blame them?

I don't care who you vote for, but vote. Vote as if your life depends on it.

It does.

And then don't sit back and take it. Make those people accountable. MAKE THEM REMEMBER THEIR PROMISES. Don't let your rights be degraded further, don't let someone tell you what is best for your tax dollars if you don't agree and don't let them tell you it's all ok if your gut is telling you it isn't. You're smart enough to know this s**t. Now fight for it.

/rant]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q31http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q31politics <![CDATA[Bornbad @ 3/11/2008 9:35:33 PM]]>« coldbladed : Who is more likely to see the problems for what they are? A newbie with a fresh perspective or an entrenched veteran that owes favors, has favors owed, and is likely to lose a lot in such a shakeup?Your guess.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q30http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q30politics <![CDATA[theclansman @ 3/11/2008 7:37:22 PM]]>
I can pretty confidently say that the super delegates will NOT decide this election, they will give their support to whoever is winning for the simple fact that if they didn't it would destroy the democratic party.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q29http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q29politics <![CDATA[coldbladed @ 3/11/2008 7:33:31 PM]]>« Bornbad : Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. No president can change things without help from a lot of senators and congressmen. Government needs an overhaul, not a newbie in the white house.Who is more likely to see the problems for what they are? A newbie with a fresh perspective or an entrenched veteran that owes favors, has favors owed, and is likely to lose a lot in such a shakeup?]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q28http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q28politics <![CDATA[tundramonkey @ 3/11/2008 7:21:31 PM]]>« moe : A pic from headlines about Mississippi's voting today:

Five people, 2 voting machines.

So....I guess they don't have secret balloting there, eh?Call me old fashioned, but I don't think I'd be comfortable with those voting machines and computers and the like.

I guess it's because I've spent the last decade and a bit just putting an x beside the candidate of choice's name.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q27http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q27politics <![CDATA[moe @ 3/11/2008 7:19:12 PM]]>
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5 people, 2 voting machines, 1 reporter taking pics.

So....I guess they don't have secret balloting there, eh?]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q26http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q26politics <![CDATA[hmtksteve @ 3/6/2008 10:12:17 AM]]>
What also needs to be done is to get rid of this "open" primary system. If you don't belong to the party than you do not belong in the primary.

Oh yeah, get rid of state funding for primaries too.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q25http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q25politics <![CDATA[Alton @ 3/6/2008 9:50:31 AM]]>
This could be bad for the Democratic party and the November election.

Now they are talking about Michigan and Florida having do over elections.

What a mess.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q24http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q24politics <![CDATA[smarty1052 @ 3/6/2008 9:20:56 AM]]>« sykeo56 : Apparently he also raped a woman...Are we talkin about Obama or Tupac? either way I'm not familiar with that one.. time to go play with google..]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q23http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q23politics <![CDATA[jLoSsDh @ 3/5/2008 4:06:39 PM]]>« HMTKSteve : I don't recall Al Gore running in 2004. I think you are thinking of John Kerry.Now you know how much I give a shat.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q22http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q22politics <![CDATA[HMTKSteve @ 3/5/2008 2:40:00 PM]]>« jLoSsDh : After INdescision 2004, which Al Gore should have won...does anyone really believe the people are the ones deciding who the president will be?

The Powers that `Be` are just going to make it appear as if there were a chance for a black man to become president. It doesn`t matter who is `elected`...they are only puppets anyway.I don't recall Al Gore running in 2004. I think you are thinking of John Kerry.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q21http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q21politics <![CDATA[Marli @ 3/5/2008 2:05:24 PM]]>« unzercharlie :

Also I don't really get the "if he wins i fear for his life" thing. I've heard a lot of people say that but I don't really understand why it's so likely that he'll be killed.
Me neither. Or at least why he's more likely to be killed than any other president. There have been a lot of assassinations attempts made on US Presidents. I don't think being black is going to up the odds as much as people are saying.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q20http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q20politics <![CDATA[gammerus @ 3/5/2008 1:42:07 PM]]>« unzercharlie :
Also, the experience argument...
How is it that experience can be the most needed thing when change is what everyone wants? What experience is one supposed to have that's going to lead to change? If experience was the most important trait in a leader, we would have missed out on a lot of great leaders. I think this opinion is one that's simply bought by the public when sold by crooked politicians empty campaign arguments. How the hell is this "overhaul" everyone wants going to come from more of the same?My thoughts exactly. It it silly to believe Hillary's "experience" is what we need, when that same experience is what voted for no child left behind, the patriot act, and the Iraq war. I will take good judgment over experience any day.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q19http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q19politics <![CDATA[unzercharlie @ 3/5/2008 1:31:22 PM]]>« jLoSsDh:After INdescision 2004, which Al Gore should have won...does anyone really believe the people are the ones deciding who the president will be?

The Powers that `Be` are just going to make it appear as if there were a chance for a black man to become president. It doesn`t matter who is `elected`...they are only puppets anyway.So this means you should just give in and be a puppet too? Come on... take off your tinfoil hat and vote.

Also I don't really get the "if he wins i fear for his life" thing. I've heard a lot of people say that but I don't really understand why it's so likely that he'll be killed.

I was for Mike Gravel, but once I realized he stood no chance at all, I backed Obama.

Also, the experience argument...
How is it that experience can be the most needed thing when change is what everyone wants? What experience is one supposed to have that's going to lead to change? If experience was the most important trait in a leader, we would have missed out on a lot of great leaders. I think this opinion is one that's simply bought by the public when sold by crooked politicians empty campaign arguments. How the hell is this "overhaul" everyone wants going to come from more of the same?]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q18http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q18politics <![CDATA[jLoSsDh @ 3/5/2008 1:26:11 PM]]>
The Powers that `Be` are just going to make it appear as if there were a chance for a black man to become president. It doesn`t matter who is `elected`...they are only puppets anyway.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q17http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q17politics <![CDATA[gammerus @ 3/5/2008 1:13:41 PM]]>« trushafty38 : personally Im down for Obama. But I do fear for his life if he is elected.They did call him Kennedy-esque...


/bad joke]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q16http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q16politics <![CDATA[germz @ 3/5/2008 11:20:59 AM]]>« TraumaMamma :
I wanted Ron Paul, but he doesn't have any media coverage.fixt]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q15http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q15politics <![CDATA[tundramonkey @ 3/5/2008 10:37:39 AM]]>« trushafty38 : personally Im down for Obama. But I do fear for his life if he is elected.I agree. He might as well shave his hair into a target shape.

If I were American, I'd probably vote for Ms. Clinton. I think she would be a very capable and experienced leader.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q14http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q14politics <![CDATA[trushafty38 @ 3/5/2008 10:09:41 AM]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q13http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q13politics <![CDATA[gammerus @ 3/5/2008 3:27:27 AM]]>« sykeo56 : Apparently he also raped a woman...He motivated her into doing it >_>]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q12http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q12politics <![CDATA[bluenutria @ 3/5/2008 1:07:13 AM]]>« TraumaMamma :
I don't see color, I wish everyone didn't. Man, woman, black, white, who cares?
I often say this and get hounded for it. Some people are fiercely proud of the superficial things that separate them from others. I don't get it.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q11http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q11politics <![CDATA[sykeo56 @ 3/4/2008 11:35:17 PM]]>« smarty1052 : lol, I dunno tupac has said some motivational things over the years. If he were alive theres a number of people out there that would vote for someone just b/c Tupac endorsed themApparently he also raped a woman...]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q10http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q10politics <![CDATA[blurmore @ 3/4/2008 10:52:58 PM]]>« hmtksteve :

I mean, if there was a news reporter walking around and talking to people who said, "I'm voting for McCain because he's a white guy," there would be cries of racism, KKK and 'good ole boys network' all over the place.
2 problems with this statement.


1. If Obama wins the primary you WILL see people interviewed in some parts of the country saying this.

2. They don't HAVE to say it to get their point across. When a blue collar, middle to lower middle class white male votes for McCain...he IS voting for McCain because he is a white man, because you can be sure as s**t it isn't voting for him because John McCain will do anything but send his kids to war, throw his tax dollars into the money hole of Iraq, and protect his employers who will try to outsource his job.

I'm not all yippy skippy about Obama, I think at best he could be an ineffectual but benevolent president like Jimmy Carter.

Hilary Clinton is McCain lite, she just gets her military industrial complex monies from companies in blue states rather than red, and her corporate monies from e-billionaires and venture capitalists rather than blue chippers and hedge fund managers.


I'd love to give Obama a chance, I don't think he could do any worse that Bush, and his face alone will do more to raise our standing around the world than Bush could do in eight years of playing t-ball with African kids. I think when inevitably to handle the budget and war messes his administration inherits, his message will turn from hope to sacrifice and all the wind will leave his sails. That and the looming (or progressing) recession will hobble any administration who tries to squeeze money from the top. In my unadulterated and unrefined opinion we are f**ked....no matter who we elect.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q9http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q9politics <![CDATA[Marli @ 3/4/2008 9:07:05 PM]]>« hmtksteve :
What does scare me is when I talk to people who say, "I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman" or "I'm voting for Obama because he's a black man."

You don't vote for people because of the color of their skin or the shape of their genitalia. You vote for the content of their character and their platform.Thank you! I was really trying to watch the primary coverage tonight and I just couldn't. It wasn't that it was boring or that I didn't understand it, it was that I got so incredibly sick of hearing them go on and on about gender and race. I know there are some people who vote like that, but it would be really nice if networks didn't assume that we are ALL that uninformed. How about using that time to report on *gasp* their voting records?]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q8http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q8politics <![CDATA[hmtksteve @ 3/4/2008 7:34:31 PM]]>
What does scare me is when I talk to people who say, "I'm voting for Hillary because she's a woman" or "I'm voting for Obama because he's a black man."

You don't vote for people because of the color of their skin or the shape of their genitalia. You vote for the content of their character and their platform.

I mean, if there was a news reporter walking around and talking to people who said, "I'm voting for McCain because he's a white guy," there would be cries of racism, KKK and 'good ole boys network' all over the place.

As much as I don't like Hillary at least I know where she stands. I don't know where McCain stands nor Obama.

I don't know about McCain because he is all over the place. Is he a conservative, is he a liberal, what is he???

As for Obama, no one is asking him the tough questions. It's like reporters are too scared to ask him anything.

These people are applying for the job of running the free world. They should all be asked the tough questions.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q7http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q7politics <![CDATA[Bornbad @ 3/4/2008 7:30:14 PM]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q6http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q6politics <![CDATA[blurmore @ 3/4/2008 7:17:05 PM]]>« Hoosker : I don't know weather Obama will make it or not. But one thing I can guarantee, if Obama starts quoting Tupac in his speeches, he won't have a snowballs chance in hell of making it.so long as he was providing the crack...he'd have my vote.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q5http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q5politics <![CDATA[TraumaMamma @ 3/4/2008 7:11:58 PM]]>
I don't see color, I wish everyone didn't. Man, woman, black, white, who cares? Who is best for the job? Who can get it done?

I wanted Ron Paul, but he doesn't have enough momentum.]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q4http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q4politics <![CDATA[smarty1052 @ 3/4/2008 12:05:36 PM]]>« Hoosker : I don't know weather Obama will make it or not. But one thing I can guarantee, if Obama starts quoting Tupac in his speeches, he won't have a snowballs chance in hell of making it.lol, I dunno tupac has said some motivational things over the years. If he were alive theres a number of people out there that would vote for someone just b/c Tupac endorsed them]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q3http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q3politics <![CDATA[Hoosker @ 3/4/2008 11:59:17 AM]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q2http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q2politics
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"Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight
and only time we chill is when we kill each other
it takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
And although it seems heaven sent
We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh"

http://www.alleyezonme.com/lyrics/2pac/0128/Changes.phtml


I know the actual election is far off, I just never thought that in my lifetime we would have the chance to see a black president and actually have it be someone qualified and not just some famous guy. I was all for voting for Clinton at the beggining of this election but that was only b/c I liked Bill Clinton, after reading many articles and actually following politics closely for a while I see Obama as the best choice.. Either way Tupac would be proud he got this far, lol]]>http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q1http://www.plime.com/politics/f/3514/1/rss2_0.rss#q1politics