Well this is pretty exciting politics.

Looks like Obama has the popular vote and the majority of delegates.

Looks like realistically their is no way that Hillary could be seated as the nominee...or can she?

I've known about Obama's church and pastor for almost exactly a year now. I've never submitted it to plime because, the few articles I have submitted about Obama haven't been very popular. And a submission with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity views on it is an instant downvote.

But this is incredible! It doesn't look good for Obama. Looks like he's lying about "not knowing" of his pastors rants. Looks like he's trying to be political, and that he's really no different then any other politician.

I don't think is is going to get better, I think it's going to get ugly. I hope it doesn't but here's what I see happening in the near future.

Obama's poll numbers plummet. All that oppose Obama for his affiliation with this idiot pastor will be called "Racists", pushing the votes further and further towards McCaine, who, in my opinion should ask Condoleezza Rice to head up the VP ticket.

Give me your thoughts and predictions...especially those outside the US.

Here's also something I would like an answer to. Why is it that when reviewing your text before submitting it to a forum, sometimes when editing, it will add text, when other times, it subtracts existing text while typing your edit ???????

Condo Rice *strokes chin*

female----check
black----check

she just might be Mccains trump card.
all those morons who are just voting cause "its a black man" or " Its a woman" will have to side with a McCain-Condo ticket. but they are stupid and will probably just vote for Nader.

Condoleezza Rice seems to be a pretty sharp operator. Would she settle for the No. 2 role on the Red ticket? Maybe. She's already racking up major experience as the former National Security Advisor and now Secretary of State. A stint as VP might not look too bad if she sets her eyes on the Presidency in the next 8 years or so.

Not to be racist or sexist, but I think the fact that the Democrats want to send either Obama or Hillary to the White House will eventually hand the Presidency to McCain.



And I think the Condo Rice thing is genius!

Scary smart----check

Here is another fun fact.

Hummm....I wonder what political ticket Bill Gates would run on once he quits his Microsoft job.... and I wonder if people would vote for him.

I am scared to think of ANY of them in the Whitehouse! Esp McCain, I think he is a nut job.

Chevron Named an oil tanker after her ___ Check

I'd love to see this too...but I doubt it would happen. She is much more spooky political operator than baby kissing politician, it would however be interesting to see her private life and financial connections vetted in the court of a presidential political campaign.

I'd like to see McCain choose a youthful and inspiring running mate, to balance him and the ticket out. Condoleezza Rice is way too closely associated with the Bush administration, and that would be a huge, HUGE negative, imo. I know they don't like each other much at all, but Mitt Romney might not be a bad candidate, maybe..?

Obama is giving a speech adressing this issue in about thirty minutes.

As someone who usually votes Republican, I can tell you that I, too, think they're all nutjobs. Not one of the possible 3 candidates interests me at all.

I just may write in Ron Paul. Or Mickey Mouse.

Mitt Romney as a running mate would give no more creedence to McCain with the social conservatives than a side of baby carrots make a happy meal a healthy lunch for kids.

McCain already has the endorsement of every Republican that matters tho, even if it is by default..Romney (and just the first name that comes to my mind) would not only be conservative 'enough' I think, but he'd help make up for the energy and people skills that McCain lacks.

Maybe it's the circle I keep, but nobody I know is voting for Obama because he is black, or Clinton because she is a female. I don't even think I know anybody that is leaning toward McCain because he's a male or white.

Obama and Clinton just happened to be the two front candidates of the all the Democratic candidates. Sure, some people voted for one because he was black, and some because she's a female, but at the same time many people vote along party lines regardless who is on the ticket. Are they any different?

Will this destroy Obama's presidental drive? Perhaps, but honestly, as of now, it's only a blip on the media radar. The collapse and buyout of Bears Stearns, and other investment banks possibly following suit is the top news I'm hearing. All I'm hearing is the economy and the how bad is this recession going to be.

Clinton will certainly try to use this pastor's antics to her advantage, but what's ultimately going to put McCain in the White House is Democrats divided on who should represent them. Every day that this goes on is one less day that Democrats can rally behind the candidate that does make it. I can easily see disenchanted Clinton or Obama fans staying home on November 2nd, only because their candidate didn't make the nomination.

As far as Condoleezza Rice as VP, my biggest fear is that she will bring advisors and such from Bush I and II. In our current condition as a country, I really can't see us taking another 4 or 8 years of these people. Especially if we end up going to war with Iran.

It's sad that our country still has issues as to the gender and race of our president. Other countries have shown time and time again that both genders, regardless of race, are more than able to run a country. Why do we remain so backward and prejudice?

As a Canadian, I'd personally like to see Ms. Clinton elected as president. I'm afraid of what would happen if your current ultra-conservative regime remains in power.

As your neighbour, I think that if McCain or any of that lot is elected, your current downturn in the economy will just continue, and the War for Oil will continue if not expand. OPEC has the US by the balls, and if oil prices continue to rise while the USD continues to sink, I wouldn't be surprised if another oil source is attempted to be secured. Alberta is the US' largest supplier of oil, and I'd hate to see us get 'liberated.'

Also, being your neighbour and a major trading partner, I don't trust Mr. Obama after that whole 'WELL CANCEL NAFTA' while whispering to us that it's just a political campaign ploy and that he's not serious.

I think that Ms. Clinton has tons of experience when it comes to leading your nation, and that's something I personally value in selecting a leader.

As for who do I think will get elected? McCain, especially if he uses Ms. Rice as his trump card. I had sworn that Mr. Bush wouldn't get reelected last time, and boy was I wrong, but as a result I'm pretty sure the old, white, Christian guy will get voted in.

With respect to Mr. Obama's religious affiliation - I regard anyone who takes almost any religion too seriously as delusional and a bit untrustworthy. I have a hard time understanding how full-grown adults will spend their lives believing in that whole Jesus myth, and I would prefer a leader who doesn't think we'll magically be saved from doom if we pray to the right deity. If Mr. Obama's church spends more time celebrating life than they do worshipping an imaginary deity, then I might respect and trust the fellow a little more.

I don't think he's out, though.

Sorry Alton,
The only real racist comment I've seen in recent news is coming from a black pastor...not this country as a whole.
Especially considering what I've just mentioned of Rice, how respected she is, from both sides, how powerful she is in representing our country. How well Obama was doing from whit as well as black...until recent news.

To have the backbone, no matter what race you hale, to condemn the divisive, hate filled comments of others, shows character. To make excuses is just political.

I am typing this while listening to Obama on the news.
Seams his message is that "racism" is at fault here, and not his lack of character.

It's either your circle of friends or someone you know is lying to you. Alton - you live in Texas - you KNOW there are some back-asswards people here. You live close enough to Austin to know voting has little to do with politics. But maybe your proximity to UT (and 6th street) gives you the general feel of what the young up and coming people think. Drive 300 miles west or 150 miles east and ask someone there who is over the age of 40.

I personally don't like any of the candidates and their sex or race isn't even a factor.

This is the crux of the situation. People are backwards and prejudice.

Hell, I knew a TON of people who voted for Clinton in '92 because he was good looking. They knew NOTHING about who he was and his platform.

You know people will vote against Obama because of his name (too close to Osama) and his race. People will vote against Hillary because of her sex (a woman can't lead this country!).

People won't vote FOR McCain because he's a white male, but they will vote AGAINST Obama and Hillary because they are not.

No way a republican...any republican but especially not another war monger republican and one admittedly doesn't know squat about the economy. He may get some good advisors but as long as they continue to funnel money into an unnecessary war which cannot be won they are doing this nation the grossest of disservices. Add Condy, a (at least) patsy of this current administration and that's a recipe for collapse of this nation. No one from the Bush administration should even be considered for another office. Ever.

I just listened to a part of Obama's speech. If you didn't hear it, you missed an excellent speech (just a snippet). It was logical, concise and it sounded honest.

I haven't been in the Obama camp. I am not jumping in with both feet now either but after that speech I think he really does "get it".

Here is the full transcript of the speech.

Mountains out of mole hills.

I grew up in church and I've heard preachers say all sorts of things I didn't agree with, which is exactly what I thought before I watched Obama's speech, and was happy to hear him say pretty much exactly that. All pastor's are fierce critics of society, that's why they preach.

Please don't try to tell me that you haven't learned things from people who hold some different views than you. I've learned things from lots of people with political views I don't agree with, religious views I don't agree with, etc.

Obama has spoken about the things that were said by Wright. I think the speech helped him more than Wright's comments could possibly hurt him.

So in short, no, I don't think Obama is through.

His "speech" tells you he get's it?

His "speech" tells me he got caught being someone he shouldn't be, lost popularity, and had to give a "speech"

People needed and deserved clarification as to the pastor issue.. He didn't speak of Wright as pointedly as I'd hoped or thought he would, but he did do an effective job of defusing things indirectly by expressing his views on race and racism. His speech helped but I still find myself with lingering questions.