<12345>Posted: 3 months ago by Nunkii: Alot of conservatives are saying Obama hates white people.
But how can he hate white people when his mother and grandparents were white? Obama was raised by his white mother and then by his white grandparents.
Did Obama secretely hate them?
What are your thoughts? Score: [-] 90 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk: /throws a link at Nunkii Score: [-] 241 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Nunkii:
So you can't debate on this topic? OMG, I'm shocked! Score: [-] -45 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
«Nunkii:So you can't debate on this topic? OMG, I'm shocked!
Whatdya mean I can't debate? I just showed you a site showing that he does not "hate white people". That's called a rebuttal. Score: [-] 154 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Nunkii:
«Mershaullk : Whatdya mean I can't debate? I just showed you a site showing that he does not "hate white people". That's called a rebuttal.
So you believe everything you read on the internet? Score: [-] 0 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
«Nunkii : So you believe everything you read on the internet?
Not everything, no. Score: [-] 17 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by badbud: Alot of conservatives say Obama is a Muslim.
Alot of conservatives defend the Jews right to occupy the holy land because of a really long book with a lot of loopholes and contradictions.
Alot of conservatives think the end days are near and a guy is going to come float them all up to heaven.
Alot of conservatives are nuts.
I don't dare presume to know how Senator Obama feels about anyone. I haven't heard him say he hates anyone. I haven't seen him burn a flannel shirt or a nascar hat. Nor have I seen anyone come forth to give evidence to the contrary. Ummmm, debate over. Score: [-] 290 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by donteatpoop:
«badbud:Alot of conservatives say Obama is a Muslim.
Alot of conservatives defend the Jews right to occupy the holy land because of a really long book with a lot of loopholes and contradictions.
Alot of conservatives think the end days are near and a guy is going to come float them all up to heaven.
Alot of conservatives are nuts.
A lot of people don't realise that 'a lot' is TWO words. Score: [-] 328 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by badbud: There are alot of grammar police at plime, you should start a club ;) Score: [-] 120 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by hOOsker: I haven't heard people say he "Hates" white people...The church he attended for 20 years and his pastor, that baptised his children, hates America...and whitey's.
Score: [-] 108 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by donteatpoop:
«badbud:There are alot of grammar police at plime, you should start a club ;)
That's not grammar, that's basic spelling. (and you did it again) Score: [-] 158 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by badbud: I know, I do it alot. All the time aktualy. Score: [-] 94 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Bornbad: Great, a race war on Plime.
Please don't lend credence to any news organization or the web. Everyone has an angle. Score: [-] 201 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by hmtksteve: I could turn this around and ask why Obama is not willing to embrace his "whiteness". Why did Obama use a story about his "racist white grandmother" to defend the actions of his racist preacher?
Does Obama 'embrace' his blackness because he is ashamed of his "whiteness"? I would like to know more about the internal conflict Obama has with his biracial heritage that has made him ignore one whole side of his family. Score: [-] 116 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by coldbladed: If a black man raised by a white woman can run for president as a black man, can a white man raised by a black woman run for president as a black man too? Score: [-] 117 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by donteatpoop:
«coldbladed:If a black man raised by a white woman can run for president as a black man, can a white man raised by a black woman run for president as a black man too?
-blink- -blink- Are you aware of what you just said?
The answer is no. Barak is a black man, this other person is a white man. The person who raised them can't change the color of their skin. (well they, can but it's expensive)
Honestly though, why is race even an issue? The man and his policies and his character are what matter, not the color of his skin. Score: [-] 301 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by shoestix:
Honestly though, why is race even an issue? The man and his policies and his character are what matter, not the color of his skin.
bears repeating Score: [-] 205 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by coldbladed: My question was somewhat rhetorical/satirical. I'm not sure exactly what feeling it is supposed to evoke but I certainly don't think any white man can pass as a black man just because of how he was raised. Score: [-] 17 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by Moe: I hate white people Score: [-] 283 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by donteatpoop:
«coldbladed:My question was somewhat rhetorical/satirical. I'm not sure exactly what feeling it is supposed to evoke but I certainly don't think any white man can pass as a black man just because of how he was raised.
Yeah, but...
This is a copy and paste of what you typed originally with a few added bold tags:
If a black man raised by a white woman can run for president as a black man, can a white man raised by a black woman run for president as a black man to?
I'm not trying to pick on you, cold; I just think maybe you worded your point wrong. You see, the first example is a black man running as a black man and the second is a white man running as a black man. It's not the same thing at all. If a black man is running as a black man, how can a white man run as a black man. Were Obama running as a white man then what you wrote would make sense (with a bit of modification), but he's not... so it doesn't.
Am I making sense or just rambling? Sometimes it's hard for me to tell. Score: [-] 61 [+]. Posted: 3 months ago by 2manyusernames: No one said Obama's race had anything to do with how he was raised.
They were only pointing out that he IS a white man. He is as much white as he is black. He is 50/50. As far as dna goes, he is both black and white. He isn't a white man because he was raised by a white woman. He is a white man because he was birthed by a white woman.
It would be nice if he recognized that and embraced it as much as bis black side. Of course there is no benefit to doing so.
Yes, embrace one's culture, but all of your culture.
Still it doesn't matter if he embraces only one of his two so-called "races"
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No, Obama does not "hate" white people. No, he does not share the views of Wright. He also was FULLY aware of Wright's and the church's prejudices despite is insultingly claims to be unaware of them.
The reason he remained a part of the church is simple, understandable - even acceptable.
The church is quite affluent. It has a number of high-powered african-americans. If you are african-american (or part african-american) and want to succeed in politics in Chicago, belonging to that church was a huge help.
That is the main reason he remained at the church despite its blatant bigotry.
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In any case, the thread's main issue is there are very very very few people who really believe these accusations. There are a lot of conservatives and liberals both who probably believe some of that, but "a lot" is relative and very vague.
There are also a lot of people who think we didn't go to the moon.
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Race is only an issue because Obama's campaign has made it an issue and has based a huge part of its success on race.
Yes, some will vote and others will vote against him simply because of his skin. Those numbers are probably not a majority on either side.
"The Race factor" is why he got to where he is.
A white woman said that if Obama was a white man and everything else being equal, same experience, same problems while campaigning, etc he would never stand a chance. Heck he'd never even have been a serious contender. She of course caught huge flack even being called a racist by some.
When a black man such as the head of BET said the same thing, he didn't catch any flack.
In any case it doesn't matter "what if". As was said, let his views, his policies be the base of ones vote. Don't base your vote on the color of his skin.
Decide for yourself if he is as much a socialist as he is generally portrayed or if such a portrayal is an unfair exaggeration. Heck, decide for yourself if it is bad to be a socialist.
How he got to where he is doesn't matter. It is probably true that if he wasn't 1/2 black he wouldn't be running for president, and likely wouldn't have been nominated if he did run. That doesn't matter though. If you think he'll be good for the country than vote for him. How he got there just doesn't matter Score: [-] 266 [+]. <12345>