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 At least 3 Republican candidates do not believe in evolution.
At least 3 Republican candidates do not believe in evolution. [video]
Is there anyone here that does not believe in evolution? Please raise your evolved hand. picked by Hoosker 2 years ago
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 makri
2 years ago
If there is any "evidence" of ID, no one has ever shown what it could be.

ID is an attempt to disguise "God made it" in scientific clothing by people who have no idea what science is. If simple faith is enough, there's no need to try to justify it with lousy attempts at made up science.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« Mershaullk : If that's a metaphor for religion it doesn't make much sense. In the metaphor you are holding in your hand tangible evidence for a rope. In real life, there is no tangible evidence for a god.
Yes actually people are tangible evidence of God He made us.
~Just because I believe in God does not mean Im "blind to science".
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 DoggySpe...
2 years ago
Boy, this post has sure become a can o' worms.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« DoggySpew : Boy, this post has sure become a can o' worms.
God made those worms ! =p
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 makri
2 years ago
« mrsdork : Yes actually people are tangible evidence of God He made us.
You could just as well say that people are a tangible evidence of evolution.

Or that gold coins are evidence of leprechauns. Or that 3 cheese pizza is evidence of Loch Ness monster.

Just because you can make up a story that leads from A to B doesn't mean that B's excistence is proof that your story is correct.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« makri : You could just as well say that people are a tangible evidence of evolution.

Or that gold coins are evidence of leprechauns. Or that 3 cheese pizza is evidence of Loch Ness monster.

Just because you can make up a story that leads from A to B doesn't mean that B's excistence is proof that your story is correct.
So you could also say thats B's existance is not prove that A evolved.
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 DoggySpe...
2 years ago
« makri : If there is any "evidence" of ID, no one has ever shown what it could be.

ID is an attempt to disguise "God made it" in scientific clothing by people who have no idea what science is. If simple faith is enough, there's no need to try to justify it with lousy attempts at made up science.
The most fundemental problem with ID is that it assumes that every religion has a "creator". Thus there must be evidence that life had a creator behind it.

But Buddhism doesn't have creation gods, so inherently they are faulty by default.

All evidence people have given for ID has been thoroughly debunkt.
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 DoggySpe...
2 years ago
« mrsdork : So you could also say thats B's existance is not prove that A evolved.
But the sheer amount of evidence have proven that B is an evolved form.
"A" might have gone extinct.
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 makri
2 years ago
« mrsdork : So you could also say thats B's existance is not prove that A evolved.
Absolutely. I've never heard anyone claim that mere excistence of humans would be a proof of evolution.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« DoggySpew : But the sheer amount of evidence have proven that B is an evolved form.
"A" might have gone extinct.
OR some not so apperent evidence is that God is I am B and God is A, and he's not extinct.
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 Mershaul...
2 years ago
I've said it once, I'll say it again; this would be a lot easier in the chatroom. ;-)
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 makri
2 years ago
« DoggySpew : Boy, this post has sure become a can o' worms.
I think it evolved into a can of worms.
« Mershaullk : I've said it once, I'll say it again; this would be a lot easier in the chatroom. ;-)
I disagree. In order to argue about something in chat, you have to follow the conversation constantly. To reply to a comment made couple hours ago in chat would be silly.

Chat has it's uses, but debating isn't one of them.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« makri : I think it evolved into a can of worms.

I disagree. In order to argue about something in chat, you have to follow the conversation constantly. To reply to a comment made couple hours ago in chat would be silly.

Chat has it's uses, but debating isn't one of them.
God could have began those little worms evoulution journey =)
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 VooDooPe...
2 years ago
« mrsdork : I understand, but I like to try my best to convice everyone, because I think everyone has the potential to believe.
That's quite arrogant.
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 mrsdork
2 years ago
« VooDooPeacock : That's quite arrogant.
Well, I'm sorry.
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 2manyuse...
2 years ago
I'll say this about the Christian religion... the bible is filled with stories that makes Jehovah to be one of the most evil entities, if you accept the words as complete truth.

Hell even stories that are supposed to be uplifting show Abraham's god to be Evil Incarnate.
Able and Cain both make sacrifices to God (why an all-powerful God needs or wants sacrifices is another conundrum) He looks at both their gifts, praises Abel's and turns his nose up at Cain's, degrading him for a gift that didn't please him. (I bet when you gave your father yet another tie, he pretended he liked it, because it is the thought that counts and besides he loves you. Nope, not the All-Powerful Oz, no-siree. He makes Cain feel so s**tty and useless that he lashes out and kills Abel. Just think if just the slightest bit of compassion was shown, Abel wouldn't have been killed.

42 children (innocent lambs?) are killed by bears for the ultimate in unholy acts, the unforgivable sin of teasing a prophet for being bald.

Of course the atrocities visited upon the innocent Egyptian people for the alleged enslavement of the Jews is one of God's more heinous crimes. A vast number of people were brutally murdered, and uncountable lives and families livelihood's were destroyed because of the free will of one person. Then to make matters even worse, God prevented the Pharaoh from agreeing to let the Jews go, so that he could destroy even more children.

Jesus's parents were graciously warned of Herod's planned actions. Unfortunately the other residents weren't warned. They were allowed to be murdered, again untold number of babies were killed. Too bad the Angel's didn't warn the soldiers not to kill or visit Herod.

There are millions more, but no need to bring them up again and again.

There is so much of the bible which is obviously untrue. Does that make all of it untrue? No, it just points out the fact that the bible was written by humans with their own agendas.

Getting back to the topic's inspiration, I wonder if those 3 politicians really don't believe in evolution, or did their pollsters tell them that was the best stance to take at that particular time.
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 philgtay...
2 years ago
To not believe in evolution is to not believe in one of the basic scientific laws. If the people who are in charge do not believe in evolution, then they, in short, have a slim grip on reality.
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 makri
2 years ago
« 2manyusernames : (why an all-powerful God needs or wants sacrifices is another conundrum)
This kind of petty, lowly, vain behaviour attributed to god all over the bible convinced me early on that the bible wasn't written - or even influenced - by a benevolent, supreme being.

If there is a god, he should be above caring about things like worship. If he isn't, most people I know are morally superior to christian god. In fact, I don't know any people who wouldn't be morally superior to christian god as he's described in the bible.
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 2manyuse...
2 years ago
« makri : This kind of petty, lowly, vain behaviour attributed to god all over the bible convinced me early on that the bible wasn't written - or even influenced - by a benevolent, supreme being.

If there is a god, he should be above caring about things like worship. If he isn't, most people I know are morally superior to christian god. In fact, I don't know any people who wouldn't be morally superior to christian god as he's described in the bible.
Exactly. The whole premise that only those who believe in him and Jesus Christ gets to go to heaven is incredibly evil. You can commit any horrible sin but as long as you believe in God you're okay. You can be as decent a human as you can possibly be, but you will still burn for eternity unless you worship both of them.
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 makri
2 years ago
« 2manyusernames : Exactly. The whole premise that only those who believe in him and Jesus Christ gets to go to heaven is incredibly evil. You can commit any horrible sin but as long as you believe in God you're okay. You can be as decent a human as you can possibly be, but you will still burn for eternity unless you worship both of them.
Not to mention there isn't enough information available to make an educated decision about faith. Even within Christianity you have incompatible denominations, who state that if you follow some other denomination, you can kiss salvation good bye.

And just what kind of deity would watch as people kill each other over different interpretations of his will? He should be perfectly capable to point out which denomination is closest to the truth, if any.

I don't know. Maybe he finds it amusing.
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