I am so ignorant, I did not know they can actually override the presidential veto. It is interesting that no presidential veto triggered this result ever since the Stem Cell Bill.

Why would we NOT want money for the hurricane hit areas in the Gulf?

Why would he veto that?

My son is in Gulfport, Mississppi. He does NOTHING all day, except muster twice daily....am and pm. He is a Seabee. Mobile construction.

My daughter went down to visit and the area is still in a huge state of disrepair.

I realize he came off a deployment in August, but I think our goverment can USE those at home to help our country as well. He did alot of good things in Africa, why can't those skills be used here!?!?

I'm guessing he vetoed it because he doesn't have any friends that would profit from it.

stupid "server has gone away" message that makes me post dupes...grrr

I'm guessing they passed it because they do have friends that will profit from it.

Pork barrel politics is more prevalent in congress than it is in the White House (unless you are talking about Clinton and Whitewater).

I think its interesting that one of the things that this bill funds is beach restorations by the Corps of Engineers, one of which just went awry in NJ.

Hmm, with the deficit doubled since Bush has been in and their being a Republican congress through most of it, yeah, I can't argue with you on that.

Funny how whenever the Pubs are really losing, instead of their flock of sheep being appalled they start finger pointing at Clinton. It's amazing the brainwashing that's occurred.

It's about time these puppets started doing something against our fearless fear-full leader.

How 'bout we start spending our money where it benefits our country instead of trying to "fix" others.

The more money that gets spent in the USA...on things that NEED to have the money...means less money for his war in Iraq and his planned attack on Iran. That is why he vetoed it

Indeed.

And how very sad that we neglect our own.

Brainwashing? I KNEW something was wrong with those people.

/continues in zombie voice

The pubs aren't really losing in this, they voted the same way the dems did.

About the deficit spending, the government really does represent the trends in the American People, good and bad.

Also, I never said I was a republican. Conservavtive: check, logical: check, heart that isn't bleeding: check, but a Republican? There are other places for conservatives.

We should be archnemeses, dolly.

His brother would, indirectly..as governor of Florida. ;)

Partisan politics aside, it's far easier to throw money around than it is to (appropriately) appropriate it. The real issue isn't one of lack of funds..millions of relief dollars were absolutely wasted due to lack of coordination and organization on FEMA's part, and incompetencies on the part of the Army Corp of Engineers, both pre- and post-Katrina. I wish I could site specifics (politics makes my head hurt sometimes :D), but seems to me there was a similar outcry about a year ago when Bush wanted to appropriate additional Katrina relief funds..and was taken to task for his free and careless spending. Just like everyone, I want the funds to be there..but those in charge of dispersing them have to be both responsible and accountable.

We aren't? ;)

No, you never said you were a Republican, but you do stand on their sidelines and cheer an awful lot.

Pork belly has been in politics as long as there has been politics. Most of the waste in this administration can be attributed to the war and there is no comparison to anything like what is spent on this war. But where is the money going? Blackhawks fall out of the sky, it took years to get properly armored vehicles to the troops to protect them from IEDs and 25% of our veterans are homeless. Yet billions of dollars are unaccounted for by contractors and the GAO and it'll be years before they can audit it (which will cost billions more no doubt). And who is walking away counting their dough? Blackwater, Halliburton...shall I go find the list? C'mon, this administration is f**kED UP and there is no way anyone can blame anybody but the administration in this case. It just cannot be done without fooling yourself or smoke and mirrors. (Oh and I know congress votes along with him, because he packages it as "for the troops" and to vote against might be political suicide, I just wish someone had the guts to fall on that virtual sword and find out it's an illusion).

Since the majority of Americans are against this war, it most certainly does not represent the people. Did you read the article I posted the other day by Lou Dobbs? It was completely non-partisan, I promise.

I thought Jeb was out. Sheesh, don't they have term limits on Governors?

His friend Chad determined otherwise. :D

Wise statement. I like you...

I make points (or at least try to) that no one else wants to make. I know some of you guys must hate me. I am trying to encourage thoughts on both sides of the issues, and one side seems pretty well represented already. I value logic over emotion most of the time. I also believe what I say, and to some extent, I love playing the devil's advocate so that you guys aren't just smashing the crap out of straw men all day.

Veterans make up 23% of homeless people, not 25% of veterans are homeless, it's kind of a big distinction. Thats a VA (veteran's affairs) statistic, provided by the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans.

The whole thing about the wasted money being mostly on the war? Probably true, but if we don't want millions of them to die after we leave, we should spend TONS more on reconstruction. Look at Japan and Germany, both were reconstructed by the US after WWII and are now extremely successful countries. We also still have signifigant numbers of troops in both of them. There is no Silver Bullet that will make all of our problems go away.

The majority of Americans supported starting the war, and don't know much about it today, Contrary to popular belief, we are doing alot of good in Iraq and Afghanistan right now.

I haven't made a comment about the current administration yet, and won't as long as I am in the job I'm in. You can say whatever you want about them unnopposed.

I am completely opposed to Black Water, Triple Canopy, Halliburton and other security contractors who prey upon the affinity of the gov't to just throw more money at problems instead of change the way they work. They sully the profession of arms by being guns for hire. Of all the reasons to take up arms, money should NEVER be one of them.

All this over a veto.

I apologize for any grammar or spelling errors, it is getting late.

Hold this thought, I'll get back to you tomorrow on it (if I remember).

Time for bed.

DAT n008 got PWND!!!!

I'm too tired of the fighting in the last few days to debate this, seriously.

But I don't hate you, not even a little. I do disagree with you though, but not hate.