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Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly

Now that is an inspired domain name! They are dedicated to the dissemination of information that exposes Bill O'Reilly for what he is: an ego-driven, biased individual who spreads fear, hate and misunderstanding.

ImNotBlue @ 4/8/2008 4:09:10 PM

« hoosker : I don't know why when submitting a reply it resulted in a downvote from me blue,
but for some reason plime won't let me fix it...sorry.

edit...fixed

I was just going to respond to your "Why should I care about the other stuff?" question with my own question

"If he did this to your mother, sister, wife, or daughter would you care?"
If your answer is "yes", then that makes both of you hypocrite's.

Yeah, that's true. If it happened to me, then I'd care. But it didn't. I'll care about the actual stuff that happened to my family, and not the theoretical.

I suppose if it happened to my family, then I'd either not have settled out of court, or talk about how nasty O'Reilly is when I can... and then turn off the tube.

If we start judging people on what they've done in their personal life, especially our celebrities and politicians, how are we going to get anywhere? We'd have like 4 people on television, and half a person in congress! Heck, I once threw a fit and called my mother a nasty name... does that now void my opinions?

I know what you're saying... but if we really applied that to all of society... we'd all be very lonely.

hoosker @ 4/8/2008 10:31:08 AM

I don't know why when submitting a reply it resulted in a downvote from me blue,
but for some reason plime won't let me fix it...sorry.

edit...fixed

I was just going to respond to your "Why should I care about the other stuff?" question with my own question

"If he did this to your mother, sister, wife, or daughter would you care?"
If your answer is "yes", then that makes both of you hypocrite's.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 11:43:42 PM

« PulsisX : I will admit that they are old clips and that the shut up addressed to Al Franken was not on the show but at some book signing event. However on that Glick clip the guest is not filibustering or lying or constantly talking. He is answering the questions he was asked. It is clearly not what BOR wanted to hear. I also thought it was really condescending for him to apologize to the guys mom and say what Glick's father's opinion would be of what he was saying.

I haven't watched his show in a long time and I never did regularly anyway so maybe my opinion of him is outdated or irrelevant.

Well, he has mellowed with age a bit. Even over the last year or so... I've only been watching his show for about 3 years now, and only when I have enough time to. He still gets fiery every once in a while, but he's been spending more time (too much, if you ask me) on some fluffier things. 11 years is a long time to be doing the same shtick.

As for the Glick bit, in the clip, he talks about why he was disappointed in Glick's statements. He was hoping for a little more of a 'moderate' interview, than an 'America is responsible for everything bad' speech that Glick gave.

Additionally, Glick was doing a bit of dancing. Instead of answering the question, or explaining a point, he would start citing another "example" of whatever it was he was talking about. He was attempting to make a much broader argument, than what O'Reilly had invited him on for.

Also, do note that O'Reilly was attempting to end the segment (because it had gotten far off topic), and was interrupted by Glick. That's when he lost it.

As for the whole "mother" stuff... I agree, that was over the line. But far be it from me, a man who has spent many a minute "over the line," to forever "hate" O'Reilly for just that.

PS-
You’re opinion isn’t “irrelevant”… it’s just out-dated, and a little uninformed. But that’s pretty common, when talking about O’Reilly. There are a lot of people (websites, other news programs, authors, etc) who want to take O’Reilly down, and use the people who are uninformed as their pawns. If you already have a pretty negative opinion of the man, piling it on (untruths, or distortions of the truth) only draws them closer to their side.

Remember, before I started watching O’Reilly, I had a pretty low opinion of him. I only knew what I had heard from everyone else, and none of it made me want to sit and watch. However, after a few months of viewership… my opinion changed. There were (still are) things about him I don’t care for, and opinions I strongly disagree with, but I find his presentation interesting, and worthy of my attention.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 11:30:36 PM

« hOOsker : Here you go Blue,

He made unwanted sexual advances and obscene remarks to a woman and denied he made them...until she pulled out the tapes. he then settled.

Who was looking out for her?

If she hadn't recorded the ass wipe she surly would have lost her job and career, maybe more...

he had April Winchell banned for life over a tantrum he had because his croissants weren't fresh.

O Reilly is a class "A" prick, not even realising how much he and Bill Clinton have in common.

I'm aware of the sexual stuff... and I have given it a lot of thought. Here's the conclusion I've come to: I don't care.

To me, there's "Bill O'Reilly" the guy on the television/radio who says stuff... and then there's "Bill O'Reilly" the real guy. I don't know the real guy... but I've heard some things that make him sound like a jerk. I've also heard some things from folks who work with him currently, that he's great... so who knows?

But you know what... it doesn't matter to me. I'm only really concerned about "Bill O'Reilly" the 'personality.' Why should I care about the other stuff? Does it make him a hypocrite? Maybe, a little... but again, so what? I'm not electing him my messiah, or leader of a particular group... just a guy on the tube who says interesting things. Beyond that, I don't think anyone should take this stuff too seriously.

Besides, if we castigated every celebrity in our society who is jerk in their personal life, television would be a lot quieter. The only reason these stories are a "big deal" is because of whom they're about. Actors, celebrities, and those in the public spotlight are often jerks behind closed doors. And in general, the public doesn't really care. Unless... there's something else. O'Reilly "jerk-ness" is just another mask for the underlying, "I don't like O'Reilly because he is successful at being politically different than me."

hOOsker @ 4/7/2008 6:13:05 PM

Here you go Blue,

He made unwanted sexual advances and obscene remarks to a woman and denied he made them...until she pulled out the tapes. he then settled.

Who was looking out for her?

If she hadn't recorded the ass wipe she surly would have lost her job and career, maybe more...

he had April Winchell banned for life over a tantrum he had because his croissants weren't fresh.

O Reilly is a class "A" prick, not even realising how much he and Bill Clinton have in common.

PulsisX @ 4/7/2008 5:09:32 PM

« ImNotBlue : First off, I never said he didn’t do it. He has done it… it’s the amount of TIMES he’s done it that’s the issue.

« ImNotBlue : Well, I could pick the easy ones like, "He tells his guests to 'Shut up'" or "He's always cutting off his guest's mics" because those are easy. A simple, "No, he doesn't" actually covers it... and is the truth.

I will admit that they are old clips and that the shut up addressed to Al Franken was not on the show but at some book signing event. However on that Glick clip the guest is not filibustering or lying or constantly talking. He is answering the questions he was asked. It is clearly not what BOR wanted to hear. I also thought it was really condescending for him to apologize to the guys mom and say what Glick's father's opinion would be of what he was saying.

I haven't watched his show in a long time and I never did regularly anyway so maybe my opinion of him is outdated or irrelevant.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 4:29:20 PM

« PulsisX : How many times have you seen him ask a question of a guest and then during the answer literally yell at the person? Sometimes he will tell them to shut up and at least once I have seen him shut off someone's mic mid answer.

Why have people on to not let them speak? It is what his fan base likes. They want to see him yell and shut down people that he/they don't agree with instead of listening to what they have to say.

First off, I never said he didn’t do it. He has done it… it’s the amount of TIMES he’s done it that’s the issue. Some will make it seem like he does this every show… that’s wrong. Some will make it seem like it happens whenever he doesn’t like what the other person is saying… that’s wrong. When he cuts off people's mics, or tells them to "shut up" then they are doing one of a few things:

1- Filibustering. When they don't answer the question, and instead start to dance, they're not helping anyone, they're wasting time. Why should they be allowed to waste time?

2- Slandering or lying. If someone starts lying... obviously lying, why should they be allowed to keep doing it? Isn't it more responsible to stop them, and use the time for something more worthwhile?

3- Constantly talking. If someone isn't allowing another guest to respond, why shouldn't they be cut off? Why allow them to monopolize all the time?

Now... the "shut up" or the "cut off the mic" is frequently brought up. But notice something in the clips you have provided... notice how old they are (old set, and he has more hair). O'Reilly has been on the air since 1996... and there are only a handful of times when this has happened. Again, I'm not saying it's never happened... but 5 or 6 times in the course of an 11 year program, does not a pattern make.

In the second clip, notice how many “shut up’s” were either from the same segment (ie. The Glick interview), a commentary (he’s not addressing a guest), or that clip of him at forum with Al Franken who was attempting to interrupt O’Reilly’s speaking time. It simply does not hold up under scrutiny. (And as an aside, I find it funny that “Outfoxed” was attempting to use the “Democracy” line… when they are the ones behind such groups as, “Newshounds” which are attempting to shut FNC down. Apparently, you don’t have to “Shut up” in a Democracy… unless you’re FOX News, in which case, you do. Hmmm.)

He knows it's rude and he doesn't like when it's done to him, just look at the Obama thing a couple months ago.

Yes, he knows it’s rude… and when it does happen, he talks about. I think I’ve only seen him cut off a mic once, and it was because the woman wouldn’t answer the question… she just started dancing, and then attacking a different candidate. If I remember correctly, I think she was talking about Hillary, but wouldn’t answer a question… and then started attacking Obama’s record instead. She got cut off… and IMO rightfully so. Anyway, he talked about it right as he was doing it, later in the show, and again the next day. Not hooting and hollering, but explaining why he felt it necessary.

Now, as to the Obama controversy… this is a good one. What did he do wrong? Was it wrong for him to call the guard an “SOB”? He thought it was, and apologized for it. Was it wrong for the guard to single him and his crew out, purposely stand in front of him, and prevent them from doing their job? No, that wasn’t right either. In fact, if you watch the whole clip online, you can see at the end, Obama actually comes over to O’Reilly, shakes his hand, and says they’ll “talk after the primaries.” O’Reilly thanks him, tells him he’s a “Good guy,” and says he hopes they talk soon.

This isn't a political reason to hate him. It is just that he acts so rudely to his guests.

O’Reilly’s a “hot-head,” there’s no denying that. However, much of his “heat” is because he believes strongly in what he’s talking about. He’ll debate someone strongly, instead of just throwing softballs around, or only talking to people who agree with him. You may not like his style… but other’s do. But I hardly think that’s reason enough to “hate” him.

PulsisX @ 4/7/2008 3:49:43 PM

"Shut up!" and then cuts to commercial. Looks like he did it blue.

Yeah it is a quick clip of several shut ups.

PulsisX @ 4/7/2008 3:46:18 PM

« ImNotBlue : Liiiike? Gimme an example.

How many times have you seen him ask a question of a guest and then during the answer literally yell at the person? Sometimes he will tell them to shut up and at least once I have seen him shut off someone's mic mid answer.

Why have people on to not let them speak? It is what his fan base likes. They want to see him yell and shut down people that he/they don't agree with instead of listening to what they have to say. He knows it's rude and he doesn't like when it's done to him, just look at the Obama thing a couple months ago.

This isn't a political reason to hate him. It is just that he acts so rudely to his guests.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 3:36:46 PM

« shep182 : Tell ya what Blue... you give me an example of how the evil Liberal media has made up stories about poor ole Mr. O'Reilly and I'll do the research and come up with about 20 examples of his hate-mongering for you.

Well, I could pick the easy ones like, "He tells his guests to 'Shut up'" or "He's always cutting off his guest's mics" because those are easy. A simple, "No, he doesn't" actually covers it... and is the truth.

But if you want to see what the "evil Liberal media" does towards O'Reilly, you need to look no further than to his direct competition on MSNBC, Keith Olbermann, who has made a career (at least his current career) out of mocking, insulting, and lying about O'Reilly virtually every night.

If you want to take a lie... one particular lie... let's remember back to a few months ago when O'Reilly was (once again) receiving "racism" calls after a statement he made while in a restaurant with Al Sharpton. While those who want to smear O'Reilly were able to easily remove context, and fit the story to their spin, the actual tale told a much different story. Even the usual race-baiters (like Jesse Jackson) were hesitant to claim racism, because they knew it just wasn't so. But the haters (and the haters aren't necessarily the MSM, they most often stay out of petty nonsense unless it's really juicy) used this as an excuse to try to bring O'Reilly down. Once again, it failed, strengthened his base, and thusly the haters moved on.

How's that?

Well... I disagree with you there...
I'm not in political agreement with McCain... I dont agree with his stance on many things, but I dont hate the man.

Yet, Sadly the current political climate doesn't allow for much respect... especially for those who disagree with you. Sad, but true.

Bill O'Reilley on the other hand isn't political.... he's just a white-washed bigot. Everything is everyone's fault except for the conservatives... he seeks no compromise, no resolution... he just attacks everyone who isnt exactly like him. He follows the same standard as the Conservative Agenda.... 100% compliance or 100% destruction...

False! Most conservatives don't like O'Reilly... they see him as too much of populist, and less of a conservative. You only need to read a conservative blog or two to see that.

He does have an opinion, and he fiercely defends his opinion. However, I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that he's always "attacking." Most programs, he has multiple people on to discuss the issue from both sides of the fence. He attempts (not always, but most of the time) to let all opinions be heard... even if he's not going to change his mind. But what's wrong with that?

and just so ya know... expressing your opinions is the truest way to judge the type of person you are.... how can you possibly think that you can seperate "who you are" from "expressing your opinions"? Where would those opinions come from if not your beliefs?

If you really feel you have to be hated/feared to make a difference... then you have the makings of a fantastic Dictator...

No, you misunderstood me. You don't have to be hated or feared to make a difference... but when there is one group who approves of your... while another group either "hates or fears" you, it's obvious you are making a difference. Good or bad depends on your POV.

shep182 @ 4/7/2008 3:09:57 PM

« ImNotBlue : Liiiike? Gimme an example.

But then again, hating Bill O'Reilly (and FOX News... and other "conservatives) is big business… and for the haters, making up stories about them is just as good as finding actual stories. My favorite site for this is Newshounds... not because they have a different take on the standard "hate"... but because their lies are so easily proved wrong. But then again, when you cater to the “hater mob,” it doesn’t really matter… wanting to believe is enough.

Tell ya what Blue... you give me an example of how the evil Liberal media has made up stories about poor ole Mr. O'Reilly and I'll do the research and come up with about 20 examples of his hate-mongering for you.

IMO, if you are a public figure that someone respects... someone else is gonna hate you. And the real reason he's hated isn't because of him... it's because of his opinions. He's a successful political commentator, which draws the ire of those who disagree with him politically. It's the same way for all politics. The opposition hates the loudest voice... because the loudest voice hits the most ears.

Well... I disagree with you there...
I'm not in political agreement with McCain... I dont agree with his stance on many things, but I dont hate the man.

Bill O'Reilley on the other hand isn't political.... he's just a white-washed bigot. Everything is everyone's fault except for the conservatives... he seeks no compromise, no resolution... he just attacks everyone who isnt exactly like him. He follows the same standard as the Conservative Agenda.... 100% compliance or 100% destruction...

and just so ya know... expressing your opinions is the truest way to judge the type of person you are.... how can you possibly think that you can seperate "who you are" from "expressing your opinions"? Where would those opinions come from if not your beliefs?

If you really feel you have to be hated/feared to make a difference... then you have the makings of a fantastic Dictator...

chinook @ 4/7/2008 3:02:54 PM

« optimusplime: Should I then start hollering about how we need to tighten borders to keep people like him out?

YES!!! I'm kidding. Sort of.

The last time he visited this part of the world he thanked people for waving with all five fingers this time.

I really want to pie him, but I'm scared of his guards who probably have guns and the 'shoot first, ask later' attitude. I wouldn't be scared of pieing one of our PM's for that reason, and if it weren't for the risk of getting shot I'd love to pie Dubya.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 3:02:48 PM

So you didn't actually see the whole show... just the clips? Well, okay... we'll go from there.

So you don't like O'Reilly, because you disagree with his positions politically. Fine... that's more or less what I was saying earlier. Much of the "hatred" he receives, is purely politically based (ie: a difference of opinions).

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As for this issue (which I don't want to dwell on too much, because it's not really the topic here), O'Reilly's opinion was/is the opinion of many other "immigration enforcement advocates." It is not one of hate (they don't actually hate Mexican's for foreigners or whatever they're charged with), it's just that they don't want people breaking the laws, and entering the country illegally.

In your example, why wouldn't you start hollering? If someone broke the law to get into the country (which in your exmaple, would involve the President sneaking across borders, instead of being allowed by the Canadian government, but whatever), and then killed someone, why wouldn't you be upset? Your argument wouldn't be about his race... it would be that he broke the law, and as a result was able to kill someone. O'Reilly's argument, that had immigration policy been enforced from the get-go, this guy would have never been able to get behind the wheel and kill someone, is an argument about law enforcement... not ethnicity.

As for me, I didn't think this was his strongest argument. And it got all convoluted with Geraldo calling "racism" almost immediately. But then again, I recognize that I don' need to agree with him all the time to appreciate his commentary. Just because I'm interested in what he has to say, doesn't mean I have to accept it. I'll listen, then make up my mind.

optimusplime @ 4/7/2008 2:39:55 PM

« ImNotBlue : Actually, his position was that had the illegal immigrant not been allowed into the country in the first place, he would have never had the opportunity to get drunk and behind the wheel, and kill someone. Furthermore, his point was that because we have lax policies concerning immigration, when this guy was arrested previously, he was allowed out, instead of deported. Additionally, his crimes were under-reported because he had limited records, and should never have been in the country in the first place.

Are you sure you watched this show, and not just a clip of this on the internet? This was from one of his biggest fights (of recent) with Geraldo... and made its way all around the news. Are you sure you watched the program, and not just the clip?

The point is - immigration was not the issue here and he turned it into propaganda. Technically George Bush should not be allowed into Canada due to a prior DUI. So let's say he comes up for a visit, has a few too many drinks and kills some one. Should I then start hollering about how we need to tighten borders to keep people like him out? It was a ridiculous arguement and Geraldo served him. (and I must say I am not big on Geraldo)

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 2:31:10 PM

« shep182 : LOL... nobody has to "Make up" stories on Bill O'Reilly... he does a fine job of making up the news himself... or at least twisting it to the political design of his choosing...

Liiiike? Gimme an example.

... as for being hated... well... I think you make more of an impact being respected.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 2:26:57 PM

« optimusplime : Only once I watched any of his show outside of a web clip and he really disgusted me. He is the one full of hate. There was a news story about an illegal alien who was drunk behind the wheel and killed somebody. To Bill this meant - C'MON PEOPLE LETS ROUND UP THE MEXICANS AND GET THEM OUT OF HERE. Really, it was sickening - pure hate propaganda. I could be hated and have an impact if I started screaming KILL ALL THE BLACKS (JEWS, ARABS) every time a person of that denomination committed a crime. Jesus made an impact and was hated (not by all, but he certainly didn't have much support in his time) but at least he wasn't a loud, arrogant, ignorant, idiot.

Actually, his position was that had the illegal immigrant not been allowed into the country in the first place, he would have never had the opportunity to get drunk and behind the wheel, and kill someone. Furthermore, his point was that because we have lax policies concerning immigration, when this guy was arrested previously, he was allowed out, instead of deported. Additionally, his crimes were under-reported because he had limited records, and should never have been in the country in the first place.

Are you sure you watched this show, and not just a clip of this on the internet? This was from one of his biggest fights (of recent) with Geraldo... and made its way all around the news. Are you sure you watched the program, and not just the clip?

shep182 @ 4/7/2008 1:53:53 PM

LOL... nobody has to "Make up" stories on Bill O'Reilly... he does a fine job of making up the news himself... or at least twisting it to the political design of his choosing...

... as for being hated... well... I think you make more of an impact being respected.

optimusplime @ 4/7/2008 1:51:56 PM

« ImNotBlue : I used to really dislike O'Reilly.

Then I watched his show. Then I realized all the BS I had been fed about how "terrible" he was, was just that... BS. If you’ve never actually watched his show, and only rely on what sites like this tell you is the truth, you’re being lied to.

But then again, hating Bill O'Reilly (and FOX News... and other "conservatives) is big business… and for the haters, making up stories about them is just as good as finding actual stories. My favorite site for this is Newshounds... not because they have a different take on the standard "hate"... but because their lies are so easily proved wrong. But then again, when you cater to the “hater mob,” it doesn’t really matter… wanting to believe is enough.

Oh well... I guess I too hope to one day be as famous and influential (you don't get "hated" if you're not making an impact) as Bill O'Reilly. Don’t we all?

Only once I watched any of his show outside of a web clip and he really disgusted me. He is the one full of hate. There was a news story about an illegal alien who was drunk behind the wheel and killed somebody. To Bill this meant - C'MON PEOPLE LETS ROUND UP THE MEXICANS AND GET THEM OUT OF HERE. Really, it was sickening - pure hate propaganda. I could be hated and have an impact if I started screaming KILL ALL THE BLACKS (JEWS, ARABS) every time a person of that denomination committed a crime. Jesus made an impact and was hated (not by all, but he certainly didn't have much support in his time) but at least he wasn't a loud, arrogant, ignorant, idiot.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 1:21:37 PM

« tundramonkey : No Way! Me too!!

I wonder if he knows about this website?

Nah, I'd almost bet the internets is too secular for him to want to associate with.

Actually, I know a few producers for O'Reilly.

I assure you, they know about it... they just don't care.

ImNotBlue @ 4/7/2008 1:19:05 PM

I used to really dislike O'Reilly.

Then I watched his show. Then I realized all the BS I had been fed about how "terrible" he was, was just that... BS. If you’ve never actually watched his show, and only rely on what sites like this tell you is the truth, you’re being lied to.

But then again, hating Bill O'Reilly (and FOX News... and other "conservatives) is big business… and for the haters, making up stories about them is just as good as finding actual stories. My favorite site for this is Newshounds... not because they have a different take on the standard "hate"... but because their lies are so easily proved wrong. But then again, when you cater to the “hater mob,” it doesn’t really matter… wanting to believe is enough.

Oh well... I guess I too hope to one day be as famous and influential (you don't get "hated" if you're not making an impact) as Bill O'Reilly. Don’t we all?

PulsisX @ 4/7/2008 1:07:40 PM

I am a very liberal registered anarchist and I hate Bill O'Reilly.

I know your shocked.

coldbladed @ 4/7/2008 12:55:19 PM

« kikcolon : i am a very conservative registered republican and I hate Bill O' Reilly.

Ditto

clscott645 @ 4/7/2008 12:30:46 PM

I have bookmarked this page to read it when I am not working.

I await giddy like a school girl.

I think I may buy the coffee cup.

mobase @ 4/7/2008 12:11:48 PM

an ego-driven, biased individual who spreads fear, hate and misunderstanding.

Nah. For him to "spread" fear hate and misunderstanding, it'd have to stick to something. Most of it goes right past everyone.

As for the "ego-driven, biased individual"- that is every person in the media I've ever met.
Turn on what's left of AirAmerica and you'll hear the same side of this coin, except that the left has a lot more outlets and strongholds to "spread" its ideals. Too much competition.

kikcolon @ 4/7/2008 12:10:17 PM

i am a very conservative registered republican and I hate Bill O' Reilly.

arsphidius @ 4/7/2008 12:08:12 PM

The guys who made the website also wrote a book by the same name. It's pretty good.

tundramonkey @ 4/7/2008 10:02:56 AM

« 2manyusernames : Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly

No Way! Me too!!

I wonder if he knows about this website?

Nah, I'd almost bet the internets is too secular for him to want to associate with.