McCain shoots for Integrity... GOP says forget it! Posted: 4 months ago by shep182
Presidential hopeful John McCain showed an amazing amount of integrity when he asked NC GOP not to run an inflamitory commercial containing Rev. Wright, blasting two gubernatorial candidates Richard Moore and Bev Perdue, Democrats who have endorsed Obama. The NC GOP says the ad will go thru as planned.
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Posted: 4 months ago by 2manyusernames:
I was just coming to post this. However your description is wrong, read the article :-)
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Posted: 4 months ago by JoshSF49:
I feel like this is an extremely misleading title/description.

As I read it, I understood that the ad was already running and McCain has asked to take it down, but not that they've denied his request.

Also, it is the NC GOP, not the KY. He was in KY when he was addressing the issue, but the ad is running in NC.

EDIT: On second read-through it had nothing to do with Obama the candidate, but rather two people that are running for Governor that have supported him.
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Posted: 4 months ago by ImNotBlue:
The cynic in me see this as yet another "win-win" situation (look at that, two in one day).

Take a look:

The ad runs, and convinces some people of whatever it's attempting to convey. That's a win.

The ad runs, some people are offended, but then hear McCain say it shouldn't run and so-on. That's a win for him, because he looks more independent, and not beholden do party leaders.

The ad runs, and the people who already dislike McCain, continue to dislike McCain. That's a 'no change' but not surprising.


Interesting strategy, if you ask me.
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Posted: 4 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« JoshSF49 : I feel like this is an extremely misleading title/description.

As I read it, I understood that the ad was already running and McCain has asked to take it down, but not that they've denied his request.

Also, it is the NC GOP, not the KY. He was in KY when he was addressing the issue, but the ad is running in NC.

EDIT: On second read-through it had nothing to do with Obama the candidate, but rather two people that are running for Governor that have supported him.
No it does say that the NC GOP denied his request to take it down:
North Carolina GOP spokesman Brent Woodcox said the ad will begin running statewide on Monday, a week before the state's crucial May 6 primary.
And the ad may target the democrat gubernatorial but it does by attacking Obama as a candidate, which is why McCain asked them not to run the ad.
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Posted: 4 months ago by shep182:
Precisely... sorry bout the KY/NC mixup... edited the description to reflect that... but still... McCain requested they not run the ad, but GOP in NC was quoted

"We have a great relation with the RNC and we fully support John McCain for president," Woodcox said. "But this is an ad about two North Carolina candidates for governor. The ad is going to run."
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Posted: 4 months ago by shep182:
« ImNotBlue : The cynic in me see this as yet another "win-win" situation (look at that, two in one day).

Take a look:

The ad runs, and convinces some people of whatever it's attempting to convey. That's a win.

The ad runs, some people are offended, but then hear McCain say it shouldn't run and so-on. That's a win for him, because he looks more independent, and not beholden do party leaders.

The ad runs, and the people who already dislike McCain, continue to dislike McCain. That's a 'no change' but not surprising.


Interesting strategy, if you ask me.
Its not very suprising they would tell him no really... McCain was never the pick for the far right... hell... Ann Coultier (SP?) Said if it came down to him and Hilary, she would vote for Clinton because she will always vote for the most conservative candidate.
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Posted: 4 months ago by JoshSF49:
« shep182 : Precisely... sorry bout the KY/NC mixup... edited the description to reflect that... but still... McCain requested they not run the ad, but GOP in NC was quoted

"We have a great relation with the RNC and we fully support John McCain for president," Woodcox said. "But this is an ad about two North Carolina candidates for governor. The ad is going to run."
Yeah, sorry, I missed that on my read through.
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Posted: 4 months ago by JoshSF49:
« shep182 : Its not very suprising they would tell him no really... McCain was never the pick for the far right... hell... Ann Coultier (SP?) Said if it came down to him and Hilary, she would vote for Clinton because she will always vote for the most conservative candidate.
Haha. She actually said she'd campaign for Hillary because Hillary was more conservative.

I think she was kidding, because I think she really wanted Romney to win.
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Posted: 4 months ago by ImNotBlue:
« shep182 : Its not very suprising they would tell him no really... McCain was never the pick for the far right... hell... Ann Coultier (SP?) Said if it came down to him and Hilary, she would vote for Clinton because she will always vote for the most conservative candidate.
Very true... but gaining support from Coulter is like gaining support from Michael Moore... you might lose more than you gain.
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Posted: 4 months ago by shep182:
« ImNotBlue : Very true... but gaining support from Coulter is like gaining support from Michael Moore... you might lose more than you gain.
LOL... sad but true... I think Michael Moore raises some very good points, but he has a tendancy to alienate the more .... subdued personalities in the party... Same with Coulter AND Newt... It seems recently that the political commentators are the only ones left with the far left/right views... regular Americans just want to be Americans again...
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Posted: 4 months ago by ImNotBlue:
« shep182 : LOL... sad but true... I think Michael Moore raises some very good points, but he has a tendancy to alienate the more .... subdued personalities in the party... Same with Coulter AND Newt... It seems recently that the political commentators are the only ones left with the far left/right views... regular Americans just want to be Americans again...
Well, I think that's how it's always been. The public at large is much more moderate, than the fringes. Those on the outside are just louder. But that is also logical. Someone with a moderate point of view, has a lot less to shout about, and is much harder to rally behind.

However, (IMO) this the problem with the current leadership in the Democratic party. They have been infiltrated by too many members of the far-left of their party... thusly aielienating many of the more moderate members. As I told people after the 2006, yes the Dems took control of congress, but it took them far too long to do it... and it was still (in many cases) a tight race. It should have been a cake walk! But they shoot themselves in the foot by embrasing their outside elements.
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