Pelosi asks Bush to stop stockpiling oil as gas prices surge Posted: 7 months ago by clscott645
I see the need for an emergency stockpile, but should we stop just for a bit?
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Posted: 7 months ago by JoshSF49:
I see her reasoning for it

But at the same time...if we use up our oil reserves when we don't really need it...

It's a difficult situation
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Posted: 7 months ago by Maven:
It's more a matter of reducing how much is going in to the stock pile, not reducing existing caches.

Truthfully? Prices here need to catch up with the rest of the world and people need to figure out how to conserve.
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Posted: 7 months ago by kidsizedcoffin:
We also need more mass transit options, I know where I am, there really aren't any options unless someone lives close and wants to carpool, which is rare.

On the other hand, conserving the fuel of government vehicles to purely government business could conserve quite a bit. How much fuel is used to fly the administration and talking heads to Iraq on a regular basis for photo op tours? How much fuel do we use flying officials to political fund raisers?
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Posted: 7 months ago by unzercharlie:
« Maven:
Truthfully? Prices here need to catch up with the rest of the world and people need to figure out how to conserve.
Prices per gallon around the world.
Netherlands, Amsterdam $6.48
Norway, Oslo $6.27
Italy, Milan $5.96
Denmark, Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium, Brussels $5.91
Sweden, Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom, London $5.79
Germany, Frankfurt $5.57
France, Paris $5.54
Portugal, Lisbon $5.35
Hungary, Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia, Zagreb $4.81
Ireland, Dublin $4.78
Switzerland, Geneva $4.74
Spain, Madrid $4.55
Japan, Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic, Prague $4.19
Romania, Bucharest $4.09
Estonia, Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria, Sofia $3.52
Brazil, Brasilia $3.12
Cuba, Havana $3.03
Taiwan, Taipei $2.84
Lebanon, Beirut $2.63
South Africa, Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua, Managua $2.61
Panama, Panama City $2.19
Russia, Moscow $2.10
Puerto, Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia, Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait, Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt, Cairo $0.65
Nigeria, Lagos $0.38
Venezuela, Caracas $0.12

We're about average right now, the thing that blows my mind is that idiots are still driving hummers.
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Posted: 7 months ago by DoggySpew:
« unzercharlie : Prices per gallon around the world.
Netherlands, Amsterdam $6.48
Norway, Oslo $6.27
Italy, Milan $5.96
Denmark, Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium, Brussels $5.91
Sweden, Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom, London $5.79
Germany, Frankfurt $5.57
France, Paris $5.54
Portugal, Lisbon $5.35
Hungary, Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia, Zagreb $4.81
Ireland, Dublin $4.78
Switzerland, Geneva $4.74
Spain, Madrid $4.55
Japan, Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic, Prague $4.19
Romania, Bucharest $4.09
Estonia, Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria, Sofia $3.52
Brazil, Brasilia $3.12
Cuba, Havana $3.03
Taiwan, Taipei $2.84
Lebanon, Beirut $2.63
South Africa, Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua, Managua $2.61
Panama, Panama City $2.19
Russia, Moscow $2.10
Puerto, Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi, Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait, Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt, Cairo $0.65
Nigeria, Lagos $0.38
Venezuela, Caracas $0.12

We're about average right now, the thing that blows my mind is that idiots are still driving hummers.
Crikey, we're the most expensive oil country ! Another reason to got to another country.
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Posted: 7 months ago by tragluk:
I'm sure the government will do what it did before.. Lower gas prices right before election time.

Or Lower it now, so that when the next pres is in, THEY will have to raise it back up.

Do the prices above include tax?
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Posted: 7 months ago by jLoSsDh:
I noticed Mexico wasn`t on the list... it`s about $2.80 a gallon...

Here the gasoline (PEMEX) is government regulated,but somehow the price stays low. I`m not an economist, so I have no idea why...it`s nice though.

On the other hand, many people say that the gas from the states lasts longer, but I`m not sure I buy into that idea...luckily, I rarely have to go there.
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Posted: 7 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« jLoSsDh : I noticed Mexico wasn`t on the list... it`s about $2.80 a gallon...

Here the gasoline (PEMEX) is government regulated,but somehow the price stays low. I`m not an economist, so I have no idea why...it`s nice though.

On the other hand, many people say that the gas from the states lasts longer, but I`m not sure I buy into that idea...luckily, I rarely have to go there.
If gas is $2.80 a gallon in Mexico, it seems to me they are paying way too much. Mexico produces quite a bit of oil. I believe we get most of our oil from Mexico and not the middle east, but I'm not sure and too lazy to verify right now.

Perhaps Mexico can't process the oil into gasoline efficiently enough to keep the price lower? Perhaps they can but keep the price low enough to make the citizens from being angry but high enough to bring in huge amounts of profits?

Well that and I believe I remember hearing that Mexico's oil is drying up which will really be a disaster for that country.
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Posted: 7 months ago by DerAlt:
« Maven : It's more a matter of reducing how much is going in to the stock pile, not reducing existing caches.

Truthfully? Prices here need to catch up with the rest of the world and people need to figure out how to conserve.
Much of the higher prices on gasoline in other countries is due to taxes. Many of the European countries levy very high taxes per gallon.

The only way we'll catch up in price is to add higher taxes to our gas. It's pretty obvious that we can't conserve enough or provide alternate fuels on a fast enough basis. But adding to the price of gas increases the potential for an economic disaster in the US.
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Posted: 7 months ago by dollyllama:
« Maven : It's more a matter of reducing how much is going in to the stock pile, not reducing existing caches.

Truthfully? Prices here need to catch up with the rest of the world and people need to figure out how to conserve.
Actually, the prices in the rest of the world are mostly from taxes, not from demand.

Edit: NM, beat by an old man!
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Posted: 7 months ago by leehblanc:
« dollyllama :

Edit: NM, beat by an old man!
Young lady, you need to learn to respect your elders. If I was your father, I would ground you... I'm just sayin'
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Posted: 7 months ago by leehblanc:
« kidsizedcoffin : We also need more mass transit options, I know where I am, there really aren't any options unless someone lives close and wants to carpool, which is rare.
I live 10 miles from work, 20 miles from my ex's house. Mass transit where I live isn't much of an option. On the other hand, unless we need something special, we can get everything we need here in town.
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Posted: 7 months ago by ImNotBlue:
I think we need to stop thinking about "alternative fuel sources." It's not getting us anywhere.

We need to start thinking about teleportation systems. THAT'S the wave of the future!
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Posted: 7 months ago by prish:
I wish I could use public transport. Unfortunately, with the jobs that we do, musical performance and piano tuning, we need to carry a lot of items. It just isn't tenable with public transport. It is killing us financially, the higher gas prices, and there is no end in sight. It is hard to keep our heads above water. We spend nearly $150 a week on gas.

I can hardly wait for the cars that run on air to be available...if we can afford to get one.
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Posted: 7 months ago by bcgrote:
Yeah, here in LA, the mass transit that is available either picks up or goes through or to areas of town you DON'T want to be in. The nearest pick up area for my husband to get to work is nearly 10 miles away, and then he would have to travel about 3 more hours on 4 different 'trains' to get to his job. And then if he has to pick up gear and go to a show site, well, he kinda needs a car for that.

Any buses that come by are usually an hour late, and then don't stop because they're full!

Urban sprawl is the bane of most US cities and mass transit designers. LA covers a HUGE area, from Lancaster down to Long Beach.

Where I live, the closest store is over a mile away, up and down several VERY steep hills. I have always tried to combine trips and drive as conservatively as possible. Thankfully, I only drive my own car to the doctor and occasionally the store or mall, but it's well under 2000 miles a year!

I'd love an electric bike or scooter, but most can't handle these hills. And then there's the whole "where does the electricity come from" thing....

Best of all, I got my VA settlement, so hubby gets a Prius next week! Yay! That should cut his gas use by 2/3 easily!

But then, just how big is the gas reserve? 20000 barrels? 100k? Isn't that like a week's worth?
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Posted: 7 months ago by shep182:
« ImNotBlue : I think we need to stop thinking about "alternative fuel sources." It's not getting us anywhere.

We need to start thinking about teleportation systems. THAT'S the wave of the future!
LOL... are we gonna have a diesel powered teleporter? ;)
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Posted: 7 months ago by DerAlt:
« dollyllama : Actually, the prices in the rest of the world are mostly from taxes, not from demand.

Edit: NM, beat by an old man!
Watch that or I'll tell everyone you're a senior citizen that was born out of wedlock and fathered by a bowler.
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