« JoshSF49:Yes, but my question was how is that any different than Bush and Iraq? Bush used unilateral force against a country which he thought posed a threat based on intelligence that most of congress voted for. Now tell me how that would be any different that Obama's plan to use unilateral force against a country that he thought would pose a threat?Big difference. Bush lied about the reasons for invading Iraq. he lied to congress and even fooled Colin Powell who embarassed himself in front of the UN and the world.
Actually, not even giving my position, the majority of the world actually believes our government created 9/11.
Majority of the WORLD?? Factual sources please.
You already gave you position on this in another thread.
I think Iraq was a horrible decision, and I was one of the few people against it from the beginning, and in fact was ridiculed for it.
Good for you. Don't know what happened to you since then.
Right. Iraq was a big IF. What is the difference between Obama and Bush? Obama's a democrat? That's the only difference between the two in the case of foreign policy. It has nothing to do with Republican/Democrat for me. It has to do with me seeing something dangerous that no one else is recognizing, because everyone is in love with this motivational speaker.[quote]
If I understand you on this, only you are recognizing this terrible threat that Obama represents? Being in love with Obama is not even close to the issue here. You are twisting every statement Ovbama has made to foster your own version of the "truth."
[quote]I don't hate Obama. I never said I have. I hate his policies, and I think he's a liar.
His policies are not much different from Hillary's
different ways to get to similar places. Do you understand that all these political statements are just that...political statements. They are not policy and won't become policy unless congress is convinced they should be. Hopefully by truthful information this time.
But my feelings for Obama have nothing to do with whether or not I see positive issues with him. I am very proud he stood his ground on Iraq, and I commend him for not supporting the war from the beginning, even if it's for the wrong reasons.
The problem is that you think Obama is the new savior of the country and you can't accept the possibility that there is anything negative about him.
I have no such feelings about Obama. I do have feelings on folks who twist statements, use smear tactics and try to obscure open discussion of candidates by spinning what they say. I would like to see an election based, as much as possible in this world, on trying to elect the best possible person. Again, not like the last two times.
The people running for President are offering no change, specifically in Foreign Policy.
So? That's Obama's fault?
The foreign policy that Obama has openly supported is like night and day to the current administration. Just to site one point is his stated willingness to speak to middle east countries now considered our enemies.
I think that's called diplomacy, something that's been missing for over 7 years.
McCain is the candidate that echoes most of the Bush line. He also is probably the least likely one who is open about what he really thinks. He has to appeal to the right wing and has changed many of his opinions that he held 6 years ago.
Question is, has he really changed.]]>