Appeasement? Posted: 6 months ago by vyoma999
Bush straddles line with Sudan
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Posted: 6 months ago by 2manyusernames:
upvoted to make up for downvote. This is not spam. It was surrounded by spam but isn't. Please be careful when downvoting new members
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Posted: 6 months ago by doggylives:
« 2manyusernames:upvoted to make up for downvote. This is not spam. It was surrounded by spam but isn't. Please be careful when downvoting new members I downvoted it, not because I thought it was spam but because it was submitted by a new breed of spammer who try and build validity and respect on social sites by submitting random non-spamming material in order to then slip in spam hopefully unnoticed.
See HERE
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Posted: 6 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« doggylives : I downvoted it, not because I thought it was spam but because it was submitted by a new breed of spammer who try and build validity and respect on social sites by submitting random non-spamming material in order to then slip in spam hopefully unnoticed.
See HERE I thought it was you. The link is msnbc. The link is valid. Each link should be treated as individuals. There is no reason to downvote legitimate articles just because other articles are spam.
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Posted: 6 months ago by doggylives:
« 2manyusernames:I thought it was you. The link is msnbc. The link is valid. Each link should be treated as individuals. There is no reason to downvote legitimate articles just because other articles are spam. Dude, there's also no need to downvote my polite comment. At least I admit when I've downvoted and give a reason.
If I see someone who I know for a fact is a spammer then I'm going to downvote whatever they submit. That's my choice and after all the downvote button is there for a reason.
Do I downvote you when you decide to downvote someone?! No. You're being very petty here 2many.
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Posted: 6 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« doggylives : Dude, there's also no need to downvote my polite comment. At least I admit when I've downvoted and give a reason.
If I see someone who I know for a fact is a spammer then I'm going to downvote whatever they submit. That's my choice and after all the downvote button is there for a reason.
Do I downvote yo when you decide to downvote someone?! No. You're being very petty here 2many. I am downvoting you for being a jerk and downvoting a perfectly legit link. Plus you even downvoted the edit just to be a bigger prick.
You have done this with other members. You went out of your way to downvote legitimate posts and even their edits.
I see you rudely downvoted every one of this members entries even though they weren't spam. This is bulls**t.
At your level it is too easy to get a member to -1. If the posts are legitimate there is no reason to downvote them and their edits. Downvote their spam. Who knows maybe they can become good plimates.
It gets worse because too many people here will see a downvote in the deleted section and assume it was deleted legitimately and downvote it even further.
I appreciate you trying to prevent spam, but don't ban a member for posting legitimate links.
Again, it is really quite simple.
They post spam, downvote it.
They post non-spam, don't downvote it.
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Posted: 6 months ago by doggylives:
You're calling me a prick for using a facility that is there to be used as and when I see fit?
Dude, I've tried with you , lord knows I've tried and you know I have when we've had disagreements in the past but to call me a prick and a jerk for using my downvotes how I see fit based on knowledge and research into someone's intentions in posting on plime is TOTALLY out of order. I WILL NOT be bullied by you into acting or voting how YOU see fit. This is NOT your site, you are a member here and to be abusive and try to bully someone when they use their vote in a way that YOU don't like is ridiculous.
Do I call you names when you vote how you wish to?! No!
The downvote button is there to be used by EVERYONE how they see fit. You might not like the way a vote goes but guess what?! That's democracy, deal with it.
If you see a downvote that you don't agree with go upvote it not be abusive to the person who saw fit to downvote in the first place.
Peace out.
*editz* I did not ban this guy, I knocked him down to 0. As a user moderated site you then have the option to upvote again. If you choose to do that you can guarentee I'm not going to start calling you a jerk and a prick.
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Posted: 6 months ago by vexingmodstwo:
ookay... I'll make an on-topic comment:
There's a far greater humanitarian concern in the Sudan and comparing this situation to Iran (in terms of "appeasement") is cheap politics at its best.
There's no such thing as a "one size fits all" foreign policy. Politicians basically insult us when they play these stupid semantics games and the media once again has failed to live up to its responsibility. This would have been a perfect time to provide some insight into why there isn't a "one size fits all" foreign policy, but no. They prefer to play along with the politicians instead of being on the public's side.
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Posted: 6 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« doggylives : You're calling me a prick for using a facility that is there to be used as and when I see fit?
Dude, I've tried with you , lord knows I've tried and you know I have when we've had disagreements in the past but to call me a prick and a jerk for using my downvotes how I see fit based on knowledge and research into someone's intentions in posting on plime is TOTALLY out of order. I WILL NOT be bullied by you into acting or voting how YOU see fit. This is NOT your site, you are a member here and to be abusive and try to bully someone when they use their vote in a way that YOU don't like is ridiculous.
Do I call you names when you vote how you wish to?! No!
The downvote button is there to be used by EVERYONE how they see fit. You might not like the way a vote goes but guess what?! That's democracy, deal with it.
If you see a downvote that you don't agree with go upvote it not be abusive to the person who saw fit to downvote in the first place.
Peace out.
*editz* I did not ban this guy, I knocked him down to 0. As a user moderated site you then have the option to upvote again. If you choose to do that you can guarentee I'm not going to start calling you a jerk and a prick. You really can't understand this can you?
Every time you downvote someone it is perfectly fair, reasonable and within your rights.
Every time you get downvoted it is Evil and Wrong and an attack on freedom and democracy every where.
Downvoting everything that someone posts because they have self-linked, or you expect them to self-link does not exactly result in a better plime or more users.
Give them a chance to become good plimates. Remember when you sign up you are not told you can not post self-links.
It is too easy to ban a 1st level member who will be off the radar screen so they can't be upvoted, can't have the rules explained to them, can't become good plimates.
There are number of current members who got banned after the first or second post. They were able to come back because it was explained to them.
There are members who posted self-links, had the rules explained to them (since the system doesn't do that) and became good members.
You are defending your right to downvote the edit and the entry of legitimate articles because of past behavior or even what you expect their future behavior will be.
I see that you think this person is a spammer. However they haven't posted spam yet. Still you decided to downvote them just because you are sure they will at some point in the future post spam.
You can see that is wrong can't you?
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Posted: 6 months ago by doggylives:
« 2manyusernames:
Every time you get downvoted it is Evil and Wrong and an attack on freedom and democracy every where.
I'd love to see an example of this ;)
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Posted: 6 months ago by vexingmodstwo:
« doggylives : I'd love to see an example of this ;)
What is that?
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Posted: 6 months ago by 2manyusernames:
« vexingmodstwo : What is that? looks like fried pork skin?
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Posted: 6 months ago by vexingmodstwo:
« 2manyusernames : looks like fried pork skin? I don't get it...
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Posted: 6 months ago by tundramonkey:
« doggylives : I downvoted it, not because I thought it was spam but because it was submitted by a new breed of spammer who try and build validity and respect on social sites by submitting random non-spamming material in order to then slip in spam hopefully unnoticed.
See HERE I downvoted you for a couple of reasons:
1. You didn't actually state why you downvoted until someone else downvoted you.
2. This article isn't spam! It's a valid link. If you have a problem with this user, who is a 1, pm him/her instead of deleting this person.
3. This isn't the first time you've done this. It's become too easy to delete n00bs, and IMO this is discouraging some potentially wonderful new Plimers.
My first link was a dupe, and my second was to a blog. At that point in time, a year and a half ago, someone kindly explained my little downvotes and I learned the rules and became a happy Plimer. I'm almost 100% confident that if I did the same thing now, someone such as yourself would have deleted me and I would have written off Plime as a site full of a*****es and, which I know isn't true, but I wouldn't have returned.
"With great power comes great responsibility," Doggy, so please curb your desire to destroy the n00bs and give them a chance! 2man isn't bullying you either, Doggy, so there's no need to fly off the handle at him.
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Posted: 6 months ago by doggylives:
« tundramonkey:I downvoted you for a couple of reasons:
1. You didn't actually state why you downvoted until someone else downvoted you.
2. This article isn't spam! It's a valid link. If you have a problem with this user, who is a 1, pm him/her instead of deleting this person.
3. This isn't the first time you've done this. It's become too easy to delete n00bs, and IMO this is discouraging some potentially wonderful new Plimers.
My first link was a dupe, and my second was to a blog. At that point in time, a year and a half ago, someone kindly explained my little downvotes and I learned the rules and became a happy Plimer. I'm almost 100% confident that if I did the same thing now, someone such as yourself would have deleted me and I would have written off Plime as a site full of a*****es and, which I know isn't true, but I wouldn't have returned.
"With great power comes great responsibility," Doggy, so please curb your desire to destroy the n00bs and give them a chance! 2man isn't bullying you either, Doggy, so there's no need to fly off the handle at him.
First, "Fly off the handle"? 2many called me a prick and a jerk and I responded by letting him know that IMO that's uncalled for.
Second, 2many and I normally sort disagreements out just fine. If I feel his attitude is bullying and I express that then that would be between him and me.
Third, I didn't "destroy" any n00b's as I've already said in a previous comment I downvoted and they were at 0, not -1 they could still participate.
I guess I need to have a group discussion before I downvote, to see how everyone feels about it first? No, that would be ridiculous ,eh? So I guess I'll just go on using my discretion and let others do the same.
It's not that I mind someone politely pointing out a difference of opinion but I DON'T take kindly to someone calling me a prick for using my internetz votes how I see fit.
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Posted: 6 months ago by billyayle:
I'm actually starting to feel the family love here.
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