Each state should not have had some private company decide how many delegates for a public office were allowed in the first place. The states should have been able to hold their primaries anytime the wanted.

However Clinton's views about seating all the delegates in the name of fairness and justice were just too self-serving.

She didn't complain about the ruling or decry it as unjust when it wasn't known who would get the votes.

She didn't complain when Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan.

This isn't the most on topic thing in the world, but what the hell is the point of a party system? I'm not incredibly educated when it comes to politics, but I've been thinking about it for a month or so and I can't find any good reasons for it. It just causes problems and keeps certain people from even being able to run.

The worst thing about it is that we have people that vote only because the candidate is a Republican or a Democrat without even knowing where they really stand on any issues. That alone should be enough reason to get rid of party systems all together.

Yes you are correct. Any theoretical benefit to a party system is greatly outweighed by the problems they cause. For the eason you listed and the huge uphill battle a candidate that doesn't belong to one of the parties has in getting elected

We should make this simple and fair....go to a straight "popular vote" and be done with super delegates, the Electoral College, and the two party system.

Wouldn't THAT be more democratic?!?

I have always thought so.

Yes, but the United States isn't a democracy.

It's a republic.

Sure, but then why does President Bush purport to spread American style democracy around the world? ;)

I know why, because he's spreading fascism!

IMO, Democracy cannot be spread by force.

You are 'DEAD' right!

fascism noun
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.


We don't have, nor are we spreading, anything that even resembles fascism.

Hmmm, really? Take a look at this:



And this:



I mean seriously, what rock have you been under the last 7 and a half years?

I'm assuming your original question was "what's the point of a party system in the United States."

We've got a party system here in Canada, and it's great because we've got several different political parties with different agendas and places on the political spectrum.

The way I see it is that having parties provides a way for our elected officials to unite and start to.... for lack of better words here... get stuff done. If all 308 members of the House of Commons were elected as independents, I don't think anything would get done; nothing approved, no bills passed. Parties encourage like-minded people to work together (and against each other) to ensure the best representation of Canadians and the best outcomes for us.

Anyway, I just figured I'd throw in my 2c here on party systems. I like ours.

No... nothing like that.

I have been right here... where have you been?

(PS- The proof that we are nowhere near fascism, is that you're posting and linking to this stuff that says we are. If we truly were, all that stuff would be censored. It's not, now is it?)

Obviously, the nation isn't completely "there" yet....but they, namely the Bush administration, has been working towards it....

This may change if Obama gets elected, but only time will tell.

Aww, BOOO... that's like telling a person who just stepped on the track, that they're almost done running their mile. There's so far to go, and so many things that would need to happen first, it's hardly even worth talking about.