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 Believe Me, It's Torture
Believe Me, It's Torture
What more can be added to the debate over U.S. interrogation methods, and whether waterboarding is torture? Try firsthand experience. The author undergoes the controversial drowning technique, at the hands of men who once trained American soldiers to resist—not inflict—it. picked by misslesh 5 months ago
tags Hitchens Torture Waterboard Drown
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 TraumaMa...
5 months ago
Wow.

You can see the video of him being waterboarded as well.

I think it's awful.

Great find and article!
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 hOOsker
5 months ago
If one would volunteer for it...Believe me, it's not torture.
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 sidran32
5 months ago
Great article. I'll probably be passing this one around.
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 johnnyti...
5 months ago
I'm not going to say one way or another whether this is torture.

I do think it's interesting though, that nearly everyone agrees that the killing of 300,000 people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified as it likely saved many more lives, than it destroyed. Yet waterboarding single terrorists is abhorrent and wrong.

I guess the saying is true. Kill one person and it's an tragedy; kill 300,000 and it's a statistic.
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 lilyang
5 months ago
I think he put it well in the article when he framed it as third world barbarism that we recoil at hearing about in the US. We train soldiers to resist it, not inflict it. If we're going to adopt barbarism when it's expedient, then why are we even fighting people that we apparently agree with.
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 gammerus
5 months ago
« johnnytitan : I'm not going to say one way or another whether this is torture.

I do think it's interesting though, that nearly everyone agrees that the killing of 300,000 people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified as it likely saved many more lives, than it destroyed. Yet waterboarding single terrorists is abhorrent and wrong.

I guess the saying is true. Kill one person and it's an tragedy; kill 300,000 and it's a statistic.
Speak for yourself, the aftermath from those bombs wasn't justifiable, and it certainly wasn't just a statistic.
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 dork
5 months ago
« gammerus:Speak for yourself, the aftermath from those bombs wasn't justifiable, and it certainly wasn't just a statistic.

johnnytitan:

I'm not going to say one way or another whether this is torture.

I do think it's interesting though, that nearly everyone agrees that the killing of 300,000 people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified as it likely saved many more lives, than it destroyed. Yet waterboarding single terrorists is abhorrent and wrong.

I guess the saying is true. Kill one person and it's an tragedy; kill 300,000 and it's a statistic.
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 fentwin
4 months ago
If the Japanese were indicted for war crimes when they water-boarded prisoners during WW2, why is it not considered torture now when we (the US gov't) employ the same behavior?



This is not even considering the shaky information gained under such techniques. I get the feeling that many people think that if we lower our moral standards to a level just above that of the "bad guys" then we still have the high ground.
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