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Posted: 3 months ago by Chez:
Faith. Some might snicker at it, I'm quite happy though.
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Posted: 3 months ago by coldbladed:
I've seen this site before and the 'proofs' make very weighty assumptions that your typical Christian either wouldn't make or would refuse to make. There isn't any actual evidence provided anywhere on this site.
If the site is intended to be satirical wow thats a lot of time spent on a joke. If its not, wow why do you care so much anyway?
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Posted: 3 months ago by mutil8or:
No matter how you look at things,whether through faith or rationality,there will always be the unanswered question concerning,"where did it start."If Hydrogen is responsible,then where did the Hydrogen come from?If a creator created everything,then who or what created the creator?
I have more pressing issues to concern my self with.
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Posted: 3 months ago by DerAlt:
« Chez : Faith. Some might snicker at it, I'm quite happy though. That's good.
That's exactly why it exsists and exactly what it's supposed to do.
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Posted: 3 months ago by gammerus:
With this all-or-nothing reality about the Bible now understood, you can see that there are only two possible explanations for the slavery passages in the Bible:
* The Bible is right, and God loves slavery. The entire Bible is God's word, so these slavery passages must be God's word too. The laws in the United States and other modern nations that make slavery illegal defy God's word. Justice Scalia should be promoting slavery in exactly the same way that he promotes the Ten Commandments.
* The Bible condones slavery because the Bible was written by slave-owning men, not by God. God is imaginary.
That is a silly assumption.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« gammerus : That is a silly assumption. Care to explain why?
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Posted: 3 months ago by 1thirteen3:
« Mershaullk : Care to explain why? Well first it's the fallacy of a false dichotomy.
Secondly, just because the Bible mentions something doesn't mean that God condones it.
The Bible mentions Lot having sex with his two daughters, but its not condoned.
Thirdly, slavery back then was less slavery and more one person saving another's life, and the other owing their life to the first person.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« 1thirteen3 : Well first it's the fallacy of a false dichotomy. Then explain the other choices.
Secondly, just because the Bible mentions something doesn't mean that God condones it.
The Bible mentions Lot having sex with his two daughters, but its not condoned.
But those passages actively condone slavery. None of the passages about Lot condone what he did.
Thirdly, slavery back then was less slavery and more one person saving another's life, and the other owing their life to the first person.
I'm not completely sure what you're saying here, but it sounds close to actually saying that slavery is permissible if you save that person's life. Could I take a hobo in off the street and force him and all of his children to be my slaves?
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Posted: 3 months ago by ZebraHDH:
Asking Jesus to appear doesn't prove that Ganesh isn't real. I never understand why these types of sites seem to attack Jesus God and the Bible rather than Hindu Gods or the Koran.
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Posted: 3 months ago by gammerus:
« Mershaullk : Care to explain why? It is silly to assume that you can dismiss the idea of a deity because the words written about him, were written by men. Granted, you could easily dismiss the religion itself, but dismissing the idea of a 'god' based on that alone is a tad silly.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« gammerus : It is silly to assume that you can dismiss the idea of a deity because the words written about him, were written by men. Granted, you could easily dismiss the religion itself, but dismissing the idea of a 'god' based on that alone is a tad silly. I believe whoever is running the site is using the word "God" as a proper name for Yahweh. That argument obviously doesn't disprove any form of deity, but it goes a long way in making the Christian deity seem less and less plausible.
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Posted: 3 months ago by gammerus:
Because no one here speaks Korean
Oh, I just split a side.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« ZebraHDH : Asking Jesus to appear doesn't prove that Ganesh isn't real. I never understand why these types of sites seem to attack Jesus God and the Bible rather than Hindu Gods or the Koran. I have actually seen plenty of sites refuting many of Islam's claims. I'm not sure how you could miss them if you're on the internet long enough. As to the Hindu deities; well, they aren't popular enough to warrant that much trouble in the "internet world". Internet world obviously meaning those countries that use the internet more often. You also don't see many Hindus trying to destroy education and/or buildings.
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Posted: 3 months ago by gammerus:
« Mershaullk : I believe whoever is running the site is using the word "God" as a proper name for Yahweh. That argument obviously doesn't disprove any form of deity, but it goes a long way in making the Christian deity seem less and less plausible. This is a reasonable argument, but he didn't seem to make any cases for any other religions, since he seamed to be lumping them all together and denouncing them with Christian texts, I believe my response was warranted.
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Posted: 3 months ago by blurmore:
I'm not going to knock anything that makes anyone happy so long as their pursuit of it does not harm anyone else. For myself...I find that I am incapable of true belief. I'd like to believe, I've tried, but the closest I've come is believing in someone who believes, and believing in the potential of my kids becoming believers.
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Posted: 3 months ago by gammerus:
« Mershaullk : You also don't see many Hindus trying to destroy education and/or buildings. In all fairness that is probably just due to their size. Western Christianity and Islam are two of the biggest religions in the world.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« gammerus : In all fairness that is probably just due to their size. Western Christianity and Islam are two of the biggest religions in the world. That still proves my point. The reason you don't see many sites refuting their beliefs is directly related to their lack of threat.
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Posted: 3 months ago by cycostinkoman:
« mutil8or : No matter how you look at things,whether through faith or rationality,there will always be the unanswered question concerning,"where did it start."If Hydrogen is responsible,then where did the Hydrogen come from?If a creator created everything,then who or what created the creator?
I have more pressing issues to concern my self with. Everything in our world has been created, thats all we know. Trying to understand that God has always been is like explaining sight to a blind man.
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Posted: 3 months ago by Mershaullk:
« cycostinkoman : Everything in our world has been created, thats all we know. Trying to understand that God has always been is like explaining sight to a blind man. The use of the word "created" there is dangerous and wrong. I have never understood why people can't see that everything around us has no need for any sort of "creation". By creation, I mean intelligently created, of course.
Also, you assuming that you have some sort of knowledge that is unobtainable to the rest of us "blind" people betrays the fact that you probably aren't as "humble" as Jesus would want you to be. Assuming you are a Christian.
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Posted: 3 months ago by cycostinkoman:
« Mershaullk : The use of the word "created" there is dangerous and wrong. I have never understood why people can't see that everything around us has no need for any sort of "creation". By creation, I mean intelligently created, of course.
Also, you assuming that you have some sort of knowledge that is unobtainable to the rest of us "blind" people betrays the fact that you probably aren't as "humble" as Jesus would want you to be. Assuming you are a Christian. Sorry, that was worded a bit wrong. I'm "blind" too, I seriously have no idea how he has always been. It's just something none of us can understand as humans.
But assuming you believe in the big bang, or evolution, those dont have creators. You would need the same faith the believe in those, as you would to believe God has always existed.
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