Asking Anti-Abortion Demonstrators an Important Question
Asking Anti-Abortion Demonstrators an Important Question [video]
Wow. This is really fascinating. picked by muppet 5 months ago
tags abortion illegal legal anti-abortion law question
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 Rowangre...
5 months ago
This is amazingly beautiful. They have no idea what they're even protesting about.
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 eLJay
5 months ago
Wow! I am actually left speechless by this. That was incredible. I never thought of asking that question. This was an excellent find,Muppet.
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 dollylla...
5 months ago
Uh huh.

Thanks Muppet. I will send this to all my pro-choice friends and activists.
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 larknet
5 months ago
It makes me think of the pictures you see of children holding protest signs knowing full well they don't even know what it is they are doing. They are just there as pawns of their parents.
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 psycmoe
5 months ago
Woweeeeee.

Thanks a bunch for that. Makes me think of some Penn & Teller.
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 ReBoot
5 months ago
The last lady in the video informed the cameraman that "Joe" was "better informed" and could answer his questions better. Odd that we didn't hear from Joe. Makes you wonder how many pro-lifers he bumped into that had thought through all the issues. Also makes you wonder why none of them made the final cut. Oh, but I just answered my own question, didn't I?
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 Rowangre...
5 months ago
« ReBoot : The last lady in the video informed the cameraman that "Joe Shyler" was "better informed" and could answer his questions better. Odd that we didn't hear from Joe. Makes you wonder how many pro-lifers he bumped into that had thought through all the issues.

But then there wouldn't have been any point in posting a youtube video, would there?
I believe the purpose of the video was to bring up a good point about anti-choice activists, not to illustrate that ALL of them have thought this little about their "cause". I invite you to find some links to actual anti-choice answers to this question. THAT would be a better counter than the above.
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 Magellan
5 months ago
Is that your judgment or God's judgment?
*rolls eyes*

This was interesting.
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 gammerus
5 months ago
I think it really would be more appropriate to make sure the women had counciling if she was young and wanted it or whatever, but punishing a young woman for having an abortion seems a bit ludicous... However I could see a case for punishing the doctor in the event that abortion becomes illegal. But really, I think most of those people would agree tht the woman is going through enough, and shouldn't face any legal consequences.

But yeah, I remember this question being brought up during one of the republican debates, the answers were just as scattered as these women.
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 notanube
5 months ago
this is sooo stoopid . abortion isn't black or white. a woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy is suffering soo much. to hear the term "abortion" used so loosely is a mistake. no matter what your choice the situation is grave, killing humans is wrong. addressing how the woman got in the situation should be prevalent. the lack of compassion in the question should make it null and void.
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 lunarcad...
5 months ago
« notanube : this is sooo stoopid . abortion isn't black or white. a woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy is suffering soo much. to hear the term "abortion" used so loosely is a mistake. no matter what your choice the situation is grave, killing humans is wrong. addressing how the woman got in the situation should be prevalent. the lack of compassion in the question should make it null and void.
I agree.
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 jafo777
5 months ago
« notanube : this is sooo stoopid . abortion isn't black or white. a woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy is suffering soo much. to hear the term "abortion" used so loosely is a mistake. no matter what your choice the situation is grave, killing humans is wrong. addressing how the woman got in the situation should be prevalent. the lack of compassion in the question should make it null and void.
I disagree.

I don't think this question is any less valid than asking, "what should be done to someone convicted of a crime." They think it's illegal, shouldn't they have to back it up?

The fact that this question reveals that some of these demonstrators have been doing this for years and have not once thought about the outcomes of their protest wholly validates the question.
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 mewhiten...
5 months ago
« notanube : this is sooo stoopid . abortion isn't black or white. a woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy is suffering soo much. to hear the term "abortion" used so loosely is a mistake. no matter what your choice the situation is grave, killing humans is wrong. addressing how the woman got in the situation should be prevalent. the lack of compassion in the question should make it null and void.
Lack of compassion? It is a simple question of what abortion being illegal means. When you make something illegal, you set up a punishment for breaking this new law don't you? Are you suggesting we have abortion rehab programs that they are forced to attend? Well, I would call that a punishment.

Next time Repent America comes to my college campus I am asking this exact question.
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 lynxears
5 months ago
« jafo777 :
The fact that this question reveals that some of these demonstrators have been doing this for years and have not once thought about the outcomes of their protest wholly validates the question.
Well, I think they have been thinking about the consequences, just in less complicated terms — i.e. they want abortion to be illegal so that women won't be allowed to have abortions. With the general idea that that would mean no abortions would ever happen...
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 heymrp
5 months ago
I have an issue with the intent of this video. The interviewer was asking a question that has nothing to do with the issue the demonstrators care about. He was asking a question that has no "safe" answer. People in the life movement are generally sympathetic toward women who have had abortions and aren't looking to see them get punished. Often a woman is hurting during this time emotionally, spiritually, and physically. Asking this question is intended to make the lifers look dumb because the question does raise conflicting feelings. One one hand the crime is committed and should be dealt with and on the other hand is the hurting woman who may need compassion and love. Plus, if you want to get fussy she can only be an accessory to murder and the abortionist is the one who is the murderer... that is if you want to play with semantics. This video is just another bit of propaganda and has no honorable intent.
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 Gygash
5 months ago
If abortion is made illegal, shouldn't the doctor who performed the abortion be the one facing punishment?
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 JoshSF49
5 months ago
« jafo777 : I disagree.

I don't think this question is any less valid than asking, "what should be done to someone convicted of a crime." They think it's illegal, shouldn't they have to back it up?

The fact that this question reveals that some of these demonstrators have been doing this for years and have not once thought about the outcomes of their protest wholly validates the question.
No, you're absolutely wrong.

When people are calling for criminalizing harm to animals, do they know what punishment they want? No, they just want no harm done to animals.

When people are calling for the criminalization of cell phones on the road, do they know the exact punishment? No, they want cell phone use criminalized on the road.

Just because you want to criminalize an action doesn't mean you know the exact punishment you want. That's secondary.

But in case anyone cared, any woman that gets an abortion (if it is proved without a warrant-less search) should be imprisoned for life without parole. Same goes for the doctor that provided the abortion.
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 Moe
5 months ago
Wow...I just changed my mind about my views on abortion, thanks to this thread! Thank you!





























Yea, I know...that's total bullsh*t.
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 bcgrote
5 months ago
If I saw protestors in my town with those signs with that ancient picture of the aborted baby, I would set up next to them with pictures of blown up soldiers, saying the government gave me a retroactive abortion that I didn't want.

If a woman is pregnant, she WILL give birth. It may be alive or dead, but she will birth it. Even a miscarriage is a birth.

My mom once wondered if a woman gets an abortion because the fetus sends her a message that it doesn't want to be born at that time. And who could deny that if the child wanted the abortion that the woman should force it to be born into poverty and possible abuse?
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 JoshSF49
5 months ago
« bcgrote : If I saw protestors in my town with those signs with that ancient picture of the aborted baby, I would set up next to them with pictures of blown up soldiers, saying the government gave me a retroactive abortion that I didn't want.
A.) support for the war and support for the pro-life movement are not exclusive to each other. I, for one, hate the war and hate the fact that abortion is legal.

B.) EVERY soldier in Iraq volunteered to go to war. EVERY LAST ONE. They knew when they signed up they would have possibly had to go to war.

If a woman is pregnant, she WILL give birth. It may be alive or dead, but she will birth it. Even a miscarriage is a birth.
Ok, but a miscarriage and a birth aren't intentionally killing a child. Abortion is.

And who could deny that if the child wanted the abortion that the woman should force it to be born into poverty and possible abuse?
This is one of the worst arguments. The baby could become the next Hitler. The baby could become the person who cured cancer. The baby would live a life of poverty and abuse. So what? There's no guarantee on anything unless the child is actually born.

If we go by that standard, can we kill any toddler that lives in poverty with an abusive parent? No. What would the difference be?
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