No Egg Roll For You!
No Egg Roll For You!
Asian restaurants across Israel have declared a “spring roll strike.” They refused to sell spring rolls or egg rolls. In the next coming weeks they will add sushi and noodle strikes. This is to protest Israel's plan to rid kitchens of foreign chefs, and replace them with Israeli chefs. picked by 2manyusernames 7 months ago
tags israel asia asian restaurant noodles strike
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 mahler87
7 months ago
I really hate to go there... but what if this was German restaurants replacing Jewish chefs?
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 ieldanth
7 months ago
Going to be funny watching a Jewish person making mooshu pork or crab cakes.
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 zzz
7 months ago
« mahler87 : I really hate to go there... but what if this was German restaurants replacing Jewish chefs?
You have "Israeli" and "Jewish" confused.

There are Arab Israelis.

I think they are talking about non-citizen workers, i.e. removing their work visas, which were temporary to begin with.

Israel suffers from high unemployment, so maybe this will help lower the unemployment rate of citizens (including Arab citizens).
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 fugazi
7 months ago
f**kin' A Right...

That place is sick in the head...few 'people' or places can get away nowadays with that kind of coughapartheidcough...


Yehuda Shaul/Breaking the Silence

yes, mahler (really? mahler?) there is a double standard...quite...but there are also HUGE campaign contributions

you have a point zzz...but I am erring on the side of "...yeah...right..."
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 zzz
7 months ago
« fugazi : f**kin' A Right...

That place is sick in the head...few 'people' or places can get away nowadays with that kind of coughapartheidcough...


Yehuda Shaul/Breaking the Silence

yes, mahler (really? mahler?) there is a double standard...quite...but there are also HUGE campaign contributions

you have a point zzz...but I am erring on the side of "...yeah...right..."
What "Apartheid" are you talking about?

Did you even read the article?

Israeli is simply reducing the number of work visas which it issues to foreign chefs (who are on a temporary work visa).

It's a small country, and there's a limit to the number of non-citizen employees that can be allowed to work in the country.

Also, foreign, in this case, refers to Chinese temporary visitors who at some point are going to be leaving the country anyways.

There are plenty of Arab Israelis who work in restaurants, and since they are CITIZENS of Israel, this doesn't affect them.

In fact, it will likely create more openings for Arab Israelis to have work.
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 mahler87
7 months ago
« zzz : You have "Israeli" and "Jewish" confused.

There are Arab Israelis.

I think they are talking about non-citizen workers, i.e. removing their work visas, which were temporary to begin with.

Israel suffers from high unemployment, so maybe this will help lower the unemployment rate of citizens (including Arab citizens).
I am aware of the ethnic differences in the population of Israel. Regardless of these differences, Israel was formed and exists as a Jewish state. You can't argue with that.
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 betterjo...
7 months ago
Most industrialized nations, the top ten especially, have many foreign workers. I am sure if any other country did this to give those jobs to 'their own', it would be outrageous.

If Germany sent all non-citizens (regardless of race, religion) back to their countries of origin, or even just closed the borders to new foreign workers, Israel and their representatives in Germany would be the first to cry 'Nazis'.
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 zzz
7 months ago
« betterjonx:Most industrialized nations, the top ten especially, have many foreign workers. I am sure if any other country did this to give those jobs to 'their own', it would be outrageous.

If Germany sent all non-citizens (regardless of race, religion) back to their countries of origin, or even just closed the borders to new foreign workers, Israel and their representatives in Germany would be the first to cry 'Nazis'.
I find the general tone of all these replies to be quite hateful.

First of all, Nazi and Apartheid are words that should not be tossed around so lightly.

The Nazis systematically kidnapped and murdered over 8 million people, all within a few years.

That's the equivalent of exterminating the entire population of New York City, and then stealing the entire city and everything in it.

That's what the Nazis did.
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 zzz
7 months ago
That's what the Nazis did.

However, they did it not just to their own citizens, but to the citizens of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, France, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Austria, Italy, Albania, Romania, Netherlands, and others.

They TORTURED AND KILLED 8 MILLION doctors, lawyers, architects, factory workers, teachers, police officers, tailors, engineers, CHILDREN, and people from every profession and every walk of life, simply because their granparents were Jewish, Gypsy, or some other race that did not meet with German approval.

90% of my family tree was killed, and the remainder were forced to work as slave labour and barely made it out alive. Everything my family owned, and had worked generations for, was taken away.

So to even use this word in relation to a dispute about work visas, just disgusts me.

Nearly every country in the Middle East hires foreign workers who are brought in for temporary assignments and then go home. They come in with the understanding that they will not get citizenship.

For example, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. all hire foreign workers as needed. They are there on a work permit and then leave. Why doesn't anyone complain?

Also, almost every Arab country prohibits Jews from entry. Yet, Arabs not only are allowed into Israel, but also compose 20% of the population (not including Palestinians, which is a separate territory and nearly a separate state).

I'm sick of hearing the term Apartheid thrown around either. Israeli Arabs enjoy the full rights of all citizens, if not more rights.

The Palestinian territories are a separate region, which has its own government. Israel defends itself against 4,500 missiles and 500 sniper attacks which are launched across the border every year.

Despite this, Israel continues to supply, at nearly no cost, 60% of the food, electricity, and fuel supplies to this enemy state, for humanitarian reasons.

I ask you, is there any other country, who during a time of war, supplies the enemy with food, fuel, and electricity (below cost), out of humanitarian, compassionate grounds?

I think not.
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 betterjo...
7 months ago
« zzz: [..]That's what the Nazis did [..]
Interesting that our exchange of arguments turns out to be a replica of what happens every so often in European public discussion.

Germany does something (cut or redistribute some payments, introduce some law concerning foreigners, ..), *someone* compares that action or person to Hitler or Nazidom in general (more or less indirectly), other people are outraged and point out that those words should not be used lightly..

That was exactly my point: Those that cry the loudest when protectionist measures are planned elsewhere, have no problem considering them themselves. So I agree with you, people who draw a connection between visas and anything Nazi-related are idiots.

You are plainly mistaken if you think I called anyone fascist. Of course I wouldn't call Israel a country with humanitarian priorities either.
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 DerAlt1
7 months ago
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 zzz
7 months ago
« betterjonx : ..... Of course I wouldn't call Israel a country with humanitarian priorities either.
Actually, Israel has more humanitarians per capita than any other country.

For example, you can be walking the street, and strangers will stop and get into conversations with you, and invite you to dinner.

If someone is in need (regardless of race), Israelis are the first ones to step up and help them, with money, shelter, clothing, food, and furniture.

Did you know, there is a law in Israel that restaurants cannot refuse service to homeless people if they don't have any money?

They are obligated by law to give free meals to any homeless person who comes to their kitchen door, and most restaurants do it gladly.

What other country does this?

And, I repeat, what other country provides their sworn enemies with free food and electricity while the enemy is at war against them?
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 betterjo...
7 months ago
« zzz : Actually, Israel has more humanitarians per capita than any other country.
You mean humanitarian persons per capita?


For example, you can be walking the street, and strangers will stop and get into conversations with you, and invite you to dinner.

If someone is in need (regardless of race), Israelis are the first ones to step up and help them, with money, shelter, clothing, food, and furniture.
That's wonderful. Most countries claim that for themselves, though.


Did you know, there is a law in Israel that restaurants cannot refuse service to homeless people if they don't have any money?

They are obligated by law to give free meals to any homeless person who comes to their kitchen door, and most restaurants do it gladly.

What other country does this?
I didn't know that, pretty cool. I don't know if other countries have a law like that. Homeless in Europe can receive money every month from the state, though.


And, I repeat, what other country provides their sworn enemies with free food and electricity while the enemy is at war against them?
The Marshall Plan for instance was help provided to an enemy. And not just barely enough to survive but plenty to thrive and develop.

If Israel starved their uneven neighbors it would bring the international community to break their tolerance.

I'm not saying Israel is evil, they're just rather agressive in foreign and domestic politics. Of course they have to be..
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 zzz
7 months ago
« betterjonx : You mean humanitarian persons per capita?

The Marshall Plan for instance was help provided to an enemy. And not just barely enough to survive but plenty to thrive and develop.

If Israel starved their uneven neighbors it would bring the international community to break their tolerance.

I'm not saying Israel is evil, they're just rather agressive in foreign and domestic politics. Of course they have to be..
The Marshall Plan was for rebuilding Europe (including friendly countries) AFTER the war.

I don't think the USA and UK were sending supplies to German troops DURING the war.

That's in fact with Israel is doing for its humantarian efforts.

The very same people who are attacking Israel with guns and rockets, are getting free food, electricity, and many other benefits.

The explosives for the bombs and rockets which are killing Israeli children are made using fertilizer supplied by Israel, as part of its humanitarian effort to help Palestinian farmers.

The rockets which are hitting playgrounds and school buses are machined using tools supplied by Israel as part of its humanitarian effort to help industrialize the Palestinians.

The snipers who are attacking Israeli women and children on a daily basis, are using guns supplied by Israel to the Palestinians as part of Israel's humanitarian effort to help the Palestinians set up a proper police force.

The list goes on.

During any war, the US and the UK CARPET BOMB the enemies (including millions of civilians).

Israel, on the other hand, kills only armed enemies and terrorist leaders, while supplying enemy civilians (which include the very enemy soldiers themselves), with food and power.
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 betterjo...
7 months ago
« zzz : The Marshall Plan was for rebuilding Europe (including friendly countries) AFTER the war.

I don't think the USA and UK were sending supplies to German troops DURING the war.
That was outright and declared war, and after it was over not many people liked the idea of giving the ex-Nazis free stuff..


That's in fact with Israel is doing for its humantarian efforts.

The very same people who are attacking Israel with guns and rockets, are getting free food, electricity, and many other benefits.

The explosives for the bombs and rockets which are killing Israeli children are made using fertilizer supplied by Israel, as part of its humanitarian effort to help Palestinian farmers.

The rockets which are hitting playgrounds and school buses are machined using tools supplied by Israel as part of its humanitarian effort to help industrialize the Palestinians.

The snipers who are attacking Israeli women and children on a daily basis, are using guns supplied by Israel to the Palestinians as part of Israel's humanitarian effort to help the Palestinians set up a proper police force.

The list goes on.
That's because it's terrorism not war. I know many see no difference, especially after the 'War on Terror' marketing, but what's going on down there is a completely different game compared to actual war.


During any war, the US and the UK CARPET BOMB the enemies (including millions of civilians).
War.


Israel, on the other hand, kills only armed enemies and terrorist leaders, while supplying enemy civilians (which include the very enemy soldiers themselves), with food and power.
Terrorism.
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 zzz
7 months ago
« betterjonx : That was outright and declared war, and after it was over not many people liked the idea of giving the ex-Nazis free stuff..

That's because it's terrorism not war. I know many see no difference, especially after the 'War on Terror' marketing, but what's going on down there is a completely different game compared to actual war.

War.

Terrorism.
Well, when the US declared WAR on Afghanistan, halfway around the world, for allegedly SPONSORING terrorism in the US, the US and the UK bombed millions of innocent civilians.

If Israel followed suit, they would simply bomb the crap out of the Palestinian territories.

Why didn't they? Out of humanitarian concerns. To spare innocent lives.

If anything, the only model humanitarian society in the world is Israel.
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 betterjo...
7 months ago
« zzz:Well, when the US declared WAR on Afghanistan, halfway around the world, for allegedly SPONSORING terrorism in the US, the US and the UK bombed millions of innocent civilians.

If Israel followed suit, they would simply bomb the crap out of the Palestinian territories.

Why didn't they? Out of humanitarian concerns. To spare innocent lives.

If anything, the only model humanitarian society in the world is Israel.
It's ridiculous but if you want me to give Israel credit for not starving and bombing all Palestinians just to weed out the terrorists: Ok, very big of them.

I guess I have a different set of standards.
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 zzz
7 months ago
Actually, they're not just "terrorists".

The Palestinian government factions (both Hamas and Fatah) organize these guys and sponsor them.

They are supported as well by the civilian population as well.

They are more of an army without uniforms rather than just a few "terrorists".

Any other country would have already pronounced it for what it was, which is an actual war. Then they would have retaliated and carpet-bombed the enemy.
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