<feed version="0.3" xml:lang="en-us" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><generator>Plime/1</generator><title>Case #14,740 why much of art owes a debt  to &quot;The Emperor's New Clothes&quot; : ATOM 0.3</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/"/><tagline>Case #14,740 why much of art owes a debt  to &quot;The Emperor's New Clothes&quot; : ATOM 0.3</tagline><author><name>www.plime.com</name><email>plime@plime.com</email></author><copyright>2008, www.plime.com.</copyright><modified>2008-10-12T18:38:19+01:00</modified><entry><title><![CDATA[Case #14,740 why much of art owes a debt  to &quot;The Emperor's New Clothes&quot;]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/plime-com/l/58742/1/" /><id>58742</id><summary><![CDATA[Case #14,740 why much of art owes a debt  to &quot;The Emperor's New Clothes&quot;]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T17:56:11+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T17:56:11+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[So much of art is &quot;art&quot; because we are led to believe we aren't hip if we don't see it. Forget about such long held silliness as a blank canvas or literally the random contents of a trash can. <br/><br/>You have to read the article to see how F'd up this &quot;art&quot; work is.]]></content></entry><table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' width='100%' style='padding-top:5px;margin-bottom:0px;' class='trh'><tr valign='bottom'><td><table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0'><tr valign='bottom'><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabs lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-comments'><a href='/wtf-/l/58742/1/' class='plime2 td mn'>comments (10)</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-related'><a href='/wtf-/l/58742-related/1/' class='plime td mn'>related</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-share'><a href='/wtf-/l/58742-share/1/' class='plime td mn'>share</a></td><td class='minitabspc' style='font-size:7px'>&nbsp;</td><td class='minitabd lg'  nowrap="nowrap" id='tab-history'><a href='/wtf-/l/58742-history/1/' class='plime td mn'>edit history (0)</a></td></tr></table></td><td class='minitabspc' style='width:100%' valign='middle'><table width='100%'><tr class='regular'><td align='right'> <a onclick='return false' class='page-dull td'>&lt;</a><span> <b><a class='page-selected td' href='/wtf-/l/58742/1/'>1</a></b> <a onclick='return false' class='page-dull td'>&gt;</a></span></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><entry><title><![CDATA[ZebraHDH @ 4/18/2008 6:15:58 AM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q11" /><id>241556</id><summary><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/wtf-/l/58742/1/#q9"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>monolithdigital</b>&#160;....</i></div>Well said.<br/><br/>Frankly, I think of 2 extremes when considering what is &quot;good&quot; art: Some thing pleas...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-18T06:15:58+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-18T06:15:58+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/wtf-/l/58742/1/#q9"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>monolithdigital</b>&#160;....</i></div>Well said.<br/><br/>Frankly, I think of 2 extremes when considering what is &quot;good&quot; art: Some thing pleasing to the eye that I enjoy looking at; and some thing horrifing that I wish I had never seen.<br/><br/>The Scream by Munch, or 2 girls 1 cup, it's all art to me.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[monolithdigital @ 4/18/2008 6:10:31 AM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q10" /><id>241555</id><summary><![CDATA[And lets not forget the trouble caravaggio got into for painting jesus with dirty feet, or for many artists of the early christian age for depicting pegan scenes. Shock art has been around for longer then people give it credit for.]]></summary><issued>2008-04-18T06:10:31+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-18T06:10:31+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[And lets not forget the trouble caravaggio got into for painting jesus with dirty feet, or for many artists of the early christian age for depicting pegan scenes. Shock art has been around for longer then people give it credit for.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[monolithdigital @ 4/18/2008 6:08:29 AM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q9" /><id>241554</id><summary><![CDATA[I'm sorry I have to correct something that you have in your description. There is a reason for the blank canvas, and I am assuming your other statement was about the toilet in the louvre. <br/><br/>The blank canvas was the end of a philosophical movement k...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-18T06:08:29+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-18T06:08:29+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[I'm sorry I have to correct something that you have in your description. There is a reason for the blank canvas, and I am assuming your other statement was about the toilet in the louvre. <br/><br/>The blank canvas was the end of a philosophical movement known that started in the late renaisance. When Landscape painting and large scenes gave way to the baroque, paintings took a theatrical air to them, narrowing the picture plane, which carried on through the centuries until modernism, where the advent of modern photography gave a shock to painting in general, which freed a lot of artists to expand on themes used over the ages (eg. the picture plane) People began narrowing the plane more and more, till eventually, it went to the extremes, and a plain white canvas, which shows no depth at all, and the movement ends.<br/><br/>And the toilet was simply a philosophical argument, since no one was able to accuratly define what art was, it was following the train of thought that art is what the artist says it is, and the idea was built on with toilets hanging upside down, a snow shovel, fur lined china etc.<br/><br/>Art is not about pretty picutres that look like what they are supposed to look like, but a large all encompassing philosophical movement, which imho is the direction art has taken since photography has removed the need to be naturalistic in painting.<br/><br/>mind you, there are winners and losers in this whole movement, not everyone can be a picasso after all.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[muppet @ 4/18/2008 3:41:16 AM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q8" /><id>241538</id><summary><![CDATA[<div style='display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;'><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041702519.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-18T03:41:16+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-18T03:41:16+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[<div style='display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;'><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041702519.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041702519.html</a></div> <br/><br/>much easier for me to read it through the post.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[ImNotBlue @ 4/18/2008 12:16:07 AM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q7" /><id>241478</id><summary><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/wtf-/l/58742/1/#q6"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>blurmore</b>&#160;:&#160;Fox wrote a story about it...and 2 people posted it here...so from the artist's standpoint I'd say mission accomplished.</i></di...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-18T00:16:07+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-18T00:16:07+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[<div class='qp pad d'><a class="page-dull td" href="/wtf-/l/58742/1/#q6"><b>&laquo;</b></a>&nbsp;<i><b>blurmore</b>&#160;:&#160;Fox wrote a story about it...and 2 people posted it here...so from the artist's standpoint I'd say mission accomplished.</i></div>Well, only if the goal was 15 minutes of fame.  A week from now, this person won't be important enough to be a question on Jeopardy.  And if you ask me&#8230; just doing something for the sake of getting your name in the news for a day or two&#8230; well, that&#8217;s pretty lame.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[blurmore @ 4/17/2008 11:27:56 PM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q6" /><id>241457</id><summary><![CDATA[Fox wrote a story about it...and 2 people posted it here...so from the artist's standpoint I'd say mission accomplished.]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T23:27:56+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T23:27:56+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[Fox wrote a story about it...and 2 people posted it here...so from the artist's standpoint I'd say mission accomplished.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[ImNotBlue @ 4/17/2008 11:10:19 PM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q5" /><id>241450</id><summary><![CDATA[Ah... so it was a dupe...<br/><br/>Someone else posted this story, and I was worried it had disappeared.  Here's the version of the story they posted:<br/><br/><div style='display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;'><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://y...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T23:10:19+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T23:10:19+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[Ah... so it was a dupe...<br/><br/>Someone else posted this story, and I was worried it had disappeared.  Here's the version of the story they posted:<br/><br/><div style='display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;'><a class="plime" href="/redir.p?http://yaledailynews.com/story.html" rel="nofollow">http://yaledailynews.com/story.html</a></div> <br/>____________<br/><br/>And here's my comment:<br/><br/><div class='qp pad d'><i>But Shvarts insists her concept was not designed for &quot;shock value.&quot;</i></div><b>BULLSH*T!</b>]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[latueofstiberty @ 4/17/2008 7:13:40 PM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q4" /><id>241209</id><summary><![CDATA[I'll bet her art sucks, and she needs to be shocking  in order for her work to be noticed.]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T19:13:40+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T19:13:40+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[I'll bet her art sucks, and she needs to be shocking  in order for her work to be noticed.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[chinook @ 4/17/2008 6:10:16 PM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q3" /><id>241140</id><summary><![CDATA[I don't feel so good about the article itself.<br/><br/>It's full of supposeds and allegeds and unconfirmeds.<br/><br/>Still, who is one to say another's art isn't?  She wasn't hurting anyone, except herself.  While agree what she did to herself was stupid...]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T18:10:16+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T18:10:16+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[I don't feel so good about the article itself.<br/><br/>It's full of supposeds and allegeds and unconfirmeds.<br/><br/>Still, who is one to say another's art isn't?  She wasn't hurting anyone, except herself.  While agree what she did to herself was stupid, her piece got attention and a reaction, and that was probably the point of it all.]]></content></entry><entry><title><![CDATA[Maven @ 4/17/2008 6:09:18 PM]]></title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.plime.com/wtf-/l/58742/1/atom0_3.rss#q2" /><id>241136</id><summary><![CDATA[I'm in favor of legal abortions, but what this sick individual did...Horrifying.  I can't imagine the long term emotional scarring she'll carry around.]]></summary><issued>2008-04-17T18:09:18+01:00</issued><modified>2008-04-17T18:09:18+01:00</modified><content type="text/html" mode="escaped"><![CDATA[I'm in favor of legal abortions, but what this sick individual did...Horrifying.  I can't imagine the long term emotional scarring she'll carry around.]]></content></entry></feed>